U.S. terror attack--"Ninety days at most"

[jaxx]

This little tidbit from who else, Fox News......talk about using the scare tactics.


Counterterrorism expert Juval Aviv spoke with FOX Fan Central about what Americans can do to protect themselves in case of a terror attack.

Do you believe another terrorist attack is likely on American soil?

I predict, based primarily on information that is floating in Europe and the Middle East, that an event is imminent and around the corner here in the United States. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could happen in the next few months. Ninety days at the most.

<snip> What they’re going to do is hit six, seven, or eight cities simultaneously to show sophistication and really hit the public. This time, which is the message of the day, it will not only be big cities. They’re going to try to hit rural America. They want to send a message to rural America: ‘You’re not protected. If you figured out that if you just move out of New York and move to Montana or to Pittsburgh, you’re not immune. We’re going get you wherever we can and it’s easier there than in New York.’

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161962,00.html

[Coventina]

1. Wow, that's really helpful.

:eyes:

[sojourner]

2. we're fucked..........martial law w/i 90 days?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. I doubt this

because rural Americans

know if strangers are around

already know everybody's political affiliation

are ready to lock and load-even liberals I know around here believe in the Second Amendment.

[jaxx]

5. Look at the guy quoted.............

Juval Aviv is a former Israeli Counterterrorism Intelligence Officer and President and CEO of Interfor, Inc. Mr. Aviv has also served as a special consultant to the U.S. Congress on issues of terrorism and security and is the author of “Staying Safe : The Complete Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Your Business.”


There's way too much Israeli influence in our government. Who profits from the mideast conflicts? Israel. Who wants Iran gone and then the rest? Israel. Something smells.

[CJCRANE]

7. Self-fulfilling prophecy

It's almost of if he wants America to suffer the same problems as Israel. Seems way over the top to me, just scaremongering of gullible Fox fans.

[cornermouse]

12. Rural Americans are very, very, nosy.

Unlike the big city, they like to know everything about everyone else, they're not stupid, and they notice things like strangers in their area very quickly.

After 9/11 and with things even more unsettled like they are now... Like I said if they're strangers, someone will be watching them.

[rzemanfl]

15. Even in rural areas there are highways with all sorts of people

passing by. What's to stop someone from setting off a truck bomb by the feed mill and burning down the whole town?

[cornermouse]

18. Well...

Feed mills have been known to explode before, usually without any help, but basically no feed mill is capable of burning down a town.

For one thing other buildings tend to not be close to feed mills. Feed mills tend to be dusty and noisy. Not something you want to live near.

[rzemanfl]

21. The only small town I ever lived in the feed mill was right on the

main street by the railroad tracks and City Hall. Of course that was over thirty years ago.

[cornermouse]

24. Every town I"ve ever lived in or noticed driving through,

people had enough sense to build the feed mills well away from other buildings. Like I said, they kick up dust and they're noisy. They're simply not something people want to live near or put a business next door to.

But if fearmongering is your thing, knock yourself out.

[uppityperson]

29. They'll bomb the bar or the laundromat!!!

Bombed at the bar, oh dear. I think they are already here. ooooo
And bombing the laundromat, now that would piss enough people off to be noticed and reported on in next weeks paper. Carry a towel and a water bottle. Avoid the rush hour. Don't get bombed at the bar. Feed mills? yah.

[rzemanfl]

52. Not saying it's gonna happen, just that it could. The small town

I was talking about could blow up and it might take a week before anyone noticed. If Bush would have gotten Bin Laden when he had the chance instead of going after Saddam what would they do for scare stories? These "they're going to attack Hooterville" stories are just to shore up the base out in red state land.

[uppityperson]

55. Agree with you.

Keep people scared and off balance. On the one hand they know this is probably bs. On the other, it might be true. Who to believe? What to believe? Gotta be scared and not knowing so who you gonna call? Terrorist Busters! Or our precious leader Mr.bush please keep us safe pleeeeeeeeeeeze.

[Bluebear]

4. Hello Patriot Act III and IV and V . . . .

Lieberman: "We MUST give the President the authority to keep us safe." :crazy:

[CJCRANE]

6. "They’re going to try to hit rural America"

Pretty obvious over-the-top scare tactics. Fox viewers will lap it up.

[Horse with no Name]

8. And let me guess

Our only chance for staying safe is "staying the course"?
:puke:
I'm sorry. Fox Propaganda Channel has just given us an insight into the Rove playbook.
And I don't give a shit.

[dan2002]

9. RE: US Terror Attack -- "Ninety days at most"

Looks like they are up to their fear tactics again.

[uppityperson]

10. Here are the good bits: what to do, towels and kindergarteners

Have a towel, don't be bashful, train kindergarteners and everyone avoid rush hour. Boo!

Since mass transportation is the next attack, when you travel to work have with you, a bottle of water, a small towel, and a flashlight. What happened in London is exactly a point to look at. Those people who were close to the bombs died, then others were injured or died from inhaling the toxic fumes or getting trampled. The reason you take a bottle of water and a towel is that if you wet the towel and put it over your face, you can protect yourself against the fumes and get yourself out of there.

Don’t be bashful. If your gut feeling tells you when you walk on to a bus there is something unusual or suspicious, get out and walk away. You may do it 10 times for no reason, but there will be one time that saves your life. Let your sixth sense direct you.

Try to break your routine. If you travel during rush hour everyday, try to get up a little earlier and drive to work or take the train when it’s still not full. Don’t find yourself every day in the midst of rush hour. Terrorists are not going to waste a bomb on a half empty train.
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Whether it’s green, yellow, pink, no one ever educated the public how to identify suspicious items or people. In Israel, so many of them have been apprehended just because people have phoned in. We don’t have that training on campuses, schools, or kindergarten.

[cornermouse]

14. Newsflash... Rural America does not have mass transit.

Duh.

[uppityperson]

20. Rural America has towels and kindergarteners.

Maybe all those rural kindergarteners have been trained better than urban ones and that will keep them safe. I think the author of the article has seen Hitchikers Guide too many times.

[kliljedahl]

41. "Have a towel"

I always have a towel, I read "Hitchiker's Guide", I'm not stupid,


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[Shoeempress]

11. Gee, multiple attacks planned to coincide? Almost sounds like

some thing planned by the Government, but they wouldn't do that would they? I mean we're safe, we have HomeLand Security with color coded "alerts" and everything.

[Lannes]

13. Its easy to make predictions like this because 90 days from now

most people will have forgotten about it and you know Fox isnt going to give him a hard time if he is wrong.

[jaxx]

16. Faux news is fair and balanced

I'd say unbalanced, but they do like to promote the agenda. Dubya is getting too much flack about the DSM and Rove, they have to get the scare tactics going to get people's minds off the scandals. Gawd, these guys are so transparent.

[berni_mccoy]

17. Remember Duct-Tape and Plastic Sheeting?

[mbee]

19. Democrats should be foaming at the mouth when they see comments

like this coming out of the woodwork. The Bush regime cannot protect us. I mean the Pentagon was hit - how much more proof do we need that a bunch of clowns are running our country. The Pentagon is supposed to protect us and they can't even protect themselves. Now, when comments are out there saying a number of cities will be hit that proves we are not secure. The Democrats should shout that from the rooftops! Clinton was a true Commander in Chief. What we have now is a cheap immitation.

[Sparkly]

22. Husb has often said that if they really want to bring fear to the US,

they'd bomb random shopping malls in Nebraska and Wyoming, Louisiana and North Carolina and wherever. Just a few random hits -- small towns and suburbia -- and people everywhere would freak.

On the other hand, these people seem to like spectacular attacks that hit symbols of government and commerce, and for the US in particular, they want massive casualties.

A bio attack (which we're unprepared for) or weapons launched from our ports (which we're unprepared to prevent) would be devastating. An attack from ships would stop imports/exports until they could, as usual, lock the barn door after the horse escaped and it would be devastating to our economy in the meantime.

Democrats have been saying this over and over again, just as they warned about terrorism prior to 9/11 when BushCo's focus was all on "ICBMs from rogue nations." Kerry made it very clear during his campaign: loose Soviet nukes, insecure ports, insecure chem/nuke facilities, and unprepared local governments and healthcare facilities are real dangers this administration is NOT dealing with.

[BattyDem]

23. If we get hit ...

the "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here" argument is dead in the water. That won't be a good thing for * and the Repugs.

[shadowknows69]

26. They've already trumped that one remember?

with "the attacks in london were caused by the liberals because they don't support the troops"

[BattyDem]

27. Oh, silly me ...

how could I forget that "brilliant" argument! :eyes:

[Zenlitened]

25. Pittsburgh is rural? Man, this guy needs an updated atlas.

Not that any Fox viewers were really paying much attention, though. Those freaks masturbate to this kind of stuff, it's what gets them off.

:puke:

[globalvillage]

42. LOL. That was my thought as well.

Montana or Pittsburgh?

[durablend]

28. Just one thing I don't understand...

(in terms of Fauxsnooze thinking)

Why not target all the blue state people to "punish them for not standing by the prezinent-in-chief"?

I guess Brit Hume and his Fauxcabal cronies need to prop their investment portfolios up some more.

[Stinky The Clown]

30. I sorta agree with this guy .......

My own view is that we're vulnerable now, we were vulnerable in the past, and we'll be vulnerable in the future. I don't think anyone can 'keep us safe' so long as we're free.

Sure we need to do all the right things to try to prevent attacks .... but NOT at the cost of our liberty. Our personal freedom, in my mind, trumps everything.

All that being said, we're not dealing with idiots. Anyone bent on doing harm to us, and actually capable of it, is as smart and sophisticated as anyone on our side. They're not cavemen. They're smart, sophisticated people firmly grounded in the realities and technology of the 21st century. And that includes their ability to plan, and plan for maximum impact. The spectacular attacks of 9/11 were, in many ways, a fantasy to those not actually in the areas hit. The people on 'Main Street' just saw it all on Faux and listened to the tales of heroism against the barbarous A-rabs.

And they would be wrong.

If you wanna scare the very living shit out of the sheeple, do a few small attacks, simultaneously, in malls in mid size cities. Not New York or Washington or Los Angeles. But in Dubuque, and Grand Rapids, and Tuscaloosa, and Enid, and Norfolk, and Hartford, and Kalispell, and Bellingham. Won't take much in the way of explosive power as it would in timing and coordination.

If you think about it, such an attack is easy to plan and easy to do. Who would have to be tricked? A few rent-a-cops?

This would shake our shitters BIG TIME. And there's little that can be done to stop it.

No, the **long term** solution isn't military ...... or even good police work. It is intelligent foreign policy that is actually **respectful** of other cultures.

So, in the end, what idiot son has done is, indeed, to put us at greater risk.

[graywarrior]

31. Duct tape! Getcher Duct tape here!! Fifty bucks a roll.

Don't forget yer plastic!

[meisje]

32. What are they going to do, hit a feed store?

yeah, that will get a lot of attention

[uppityperson]

34. The bar and The laundromat.

And it would get a write up in next week's paper, right after the weddings.

[mandyky]

38. if they hiy a bunch of WalMarts in rural America

that would cause some talk. I have still not gone grocery shopping and i shop at WalMart. Not only that, our WalMart had an unattended bag incident in March or so.

[rzemanfl]

53. If they hit a bunch of rural Wal-Marts, maybe the local businesses

could open up again.

[me b zola]

39. abortion clinics & GLBT friendly churches

I'm just sayin

[Goldmund]

33. They're trying to ruffle some red-state feathers, that's all

Hence the mention of "rural America".

If you live in Rural America, and if somebody were to decide to bomb Rural America, then your particular corner of it has an astronomically small chance of being the target. There are only a few big cities, and they are intrinsically more likely targets because of their population density; "rural America" is thousands upon thousands of square miles. Hitting Rural America with a truck bomb would, therefore, not have nearly the effect that such a bomb would have in a city -- both in terms of fear generated and the number of casualties. So in other words, I think this guy is full of shit from beginning to end.

[amazona]

35. it doesn't sound like he has real information

Sounds like pure speculation to me.

[garybeck]

36. fear monger. n t

[KelleyKramer]

37. Do we need to buy duct tape this time??

Just asking.

Oh yeah, and plastic, dont forget the plastic.

[Junkdrawer]

40. London as a sort of off-broadway trial run....

Hmmm....

[Gloria]

43. If it happens, then how do they spin Bush's crap about "fighting them

there so we don't have to fight them here?"

Unfortunately, there will be no one to go after Bushco, they'll just all "rally around the President." I think Rahm Emanuel has already practiced this line....

[Disturbed]

47. We are vulrenable because Amerika is an open society?

I have heard several so called terrorism pundits say that.

Saudi Arabia is a Police State and they have had a few attacks and kidnappings, so that little concept doesn't make sense to me.

[livinginphotographs]

44. I was browsing wacky conspiracy sites tonight...

And on prison planet, there's a link to world nut daily with the same story.

That should tell you something. But if I'm wrong, I owe those right-wing wackjobs a coke.

[DoYouEverWonder]

45. Might be best to take this fellow Juval

with a grain of salt.


Juval Aviv is a dual US-Israeli citizen. He says he was an agent for Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, from 1968 to 1978, before opening his private New York firm, Interfor. Aviv has worked as a consultant on terrorism and other security issues for large corporations and several US government agencies, including the IRS, the FDIC and the FBI.

<snip>

In response to Aviv's report, and investigative news stories based on them, government officials launched an attack on Aviv that went well beyond simple denials. In letters to newspaper editors and on network TV, diplomatic and intelligence officials called Aviv a "fabricator" who had lied about his entire background.

Asked recently to back up that characterization, Hurley, formerly of the DEA, faxed us a letter dated May, 1990. The letter, signed by Yigal Carmon, "Israeli Prime Minister's Advisor for Countering Terrorism," says Juval Aviv never worked for Israeli intelligence and was fired from a low-level job with El-Al airlines for "dishonesty."

http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/lockerbie/resources/story_aviv.html

[KeepItReal]

46. Hey FBI, follow Juval Aviv...he knows what the terrorists are up to

Maybe he can lead you to them, since he's so hooked into what they wanna do.

[Junkdrawer]

48. To save Pittsburgh, I'll recant...

9/11 happened EXACTLY as the Special Commission said it did.

Bush and Blair didn’t lie us into Iraq, the weapons were probably moved to Iran.

RW funded companies controlling 80% the vote just means that the vote counting will be more accurate.

And it was probably that damn al-Zawahri who ordered the London Bombings.



Whew, I feel so much better now.


So, uh, Dick will you please call off the Pittsburgh terror attack now, OK?

[globalvillage]

49. Thank you.

I feel much safer now.

[FreedomAngel82]

50. So my question is

if we do get attacked again wouldn't that show Bush failed as a president? Whenever I tell my dad Bush's poll numbers he always says "we haven't been attacked again" and I always say "not yet anyways." :shrug:

[The Gunslinger]

51. I smell a set up

Some whack job goes on Fox and predicts doom and gives a timetable. Very shortly on Fox there will be a story that terror attacks were thwarted and we captured the third in charge again. Our war president will make us feel all safe and warm again...........

[Independent_Liberal]

54. Fox is at it again!

That's right. Keep the people on edge.