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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:48 AM
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Allawi: this is the start of civil war
IRAQ’S former interim prime minister Iyad Allawi has warned that his country is facing civil war and has predicted dire consequences for Europe and America as well as the Middle East if the crisis is not resolved.

“The problem is that the Americans have no vision and no clear policy on how to go about in Iraq,” said Allawi, a long-time ally of Washington.

Allawi’s concern comes amid signs of growing violence between Shi’ites, who make up 60% of Iraq’s estimated 26m people, and the Sunni minority who dominated the upper reaches of the civilian bureaucracy and officer corps under Saddam Hussein.

The Shi’ites, who endured decades of oppression, are threatening to purge members of Saddam’s former Ba’ath party from the army and the intelligence services, a move that would provoke fierce retaliation from the Sunnis.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1687910,00.html
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:49 AM
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1. "Stay the course, "W"!"
:crazy:

Recommended.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:51 AM
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2. London Times for our real news. BBC, also. (nominated, too, bluebear btw)
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 12:52 AM by Hissyspit
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:53 AM
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3. Wait -- I'm confused? (SHOCK!)
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 12:58 AM by abernste
Wasn't he one of Shrub's lapdogs? I though Allawi was the one who came to the US just before the election to tell people how great things were going?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:57 AM
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6. That's a great tag line. I just emailed it to myself and to friends... n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:26 AM
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10. Read his profile in a january issue of the New Yorker.....
IT's worth reading even after he was depsoed....
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:27 AM
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11. I remember that
He was all playing the rose-colored glasses field. I thought I was going to puke.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:54 AM
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4. The Civil War started March 19, 2003 n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:56 AM
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5. W has a vision for Iraq
Let the global corporatists profit as much as possible as long as possible. They've never received higher profits.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:58 AM
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7. And keep permanent U.S. bases there, no matter what shit is going on
outside the walls.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:23 AM
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9. True
W and his globalists are planning on building the biggest embassy we have in the world in Iraq. Money drained from U.S. taxpayers and transferred to W's globalist elitist buddies.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:07 AM
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8. HE did not receive $5.7 billion
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 01:08 AM by jmatthan

promised by Bush and Rumsfeld?

http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:40 AM
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12. Will Iraq's future be a Balkanized partition?
I'm wondering if we won't see 3 states under protection of Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Iran emerge from the chaos?
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 02:42 AM
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13. Bingo.
I think the easiest way out will be to partition the artificial state of Iraq. Look for the administration to start this prior to 2006 elections.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:05 AM
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14. Welcome to DU!
Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 03:06 AM by Hissyspit
:hi:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:09 AM
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16. Bingo. Hee. I just re-watched "The Naked Gun" tonight. Leslie Neilson
as Lt. Drebbin is looking for evidence in Ricardo Montalban's office. He opens a desk drawer. "Bingo!" he proclaims. He pulls out a bingo game card.:P
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:07 AM
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15. So Allawi is forming a secular coalition for December's elections...
More than 1,400 people have since been killed, and many Iraqis who regarded Allawi as a ruthless leader now speak wistfully of the relative calm enjoyed under his rule.

Allawi is in intense negotiations to create a new multi-ethnic secular coalition before the general election.

“If we don’t build a state we will lose,” Allawi warned. “Not just as Iraq, but the region as a whole and Europe should say goodbye to stability and so should the United States. Iraq will become a breeding ground for terrorists.

Obviously the only way to keep Iraq together, and keep it secular, is to put Saddam or someone like him in power. It wouldn't be democratic, but it would be preferable to the chaos and violence Iraq is going through.

Here's an idea: pardon Saddam, put him back in power, give him money and Jenna Bush for good measure, and he will take care of the rest.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 03:27 AM
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17. Maybe this is a way that the B-boys can bow out gracefully?
I read somewhere on DU tonite that * and B-liar are working on a secret letter to get out of Iraq.

Heck - we've been in Iraq long enough, time to go after another country:scared:
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