Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

'Pillowcase Robber' gets 184 years

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:28 AM
Original message
'Pillowcase Robber' gets 184 years
'Pillowcase Robber' gets 184 years

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/231975_robber09.html

U.S. District Judge Thomas Zilly yesterday sentenced a 41-year-old Auburn man -- dubbed by the FBI as the "Pillowcase Robber" -- to 184 years in federal prison.

Ivy Bird Gaines was found guilty of 18 felony counts stemming from a string of takeover-style bank robberies in which guns were pointed at tellers. Gaines robbed 10 banks, credit unions and check cashing businesses between Seattle and Lacey from June 7, 2002, to Oct. 17, 2003, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office.

The length of his sentence is a result of seven mandatory-minimum, consecutive sentences of 25 years each for using a gun in the robberies.


Bank robberies are terrible -- I am not condoning this person's behavior. HOWEVER, had he been a CEO -- like Kenny Boy Lay -- and not used a gun -- but none the less robbed a a whole lot of people and a few states. Lay will probably get a few years and he will manage to keep a whole lot of his ill gotten goods. Bushie will probably pardon Kenny Boy -- the millions that Kenny put into Bushie's political campaigns should be worth something. <sarcasm>

Lesson -- Robbing banks is real STUPID -- but robbing corporations and raiding pension funds -- AND give GOPig politicians money to run their political campaigns -- now that is a real SMART way to steal money.

It will probably cost tax payers more to keep the Bank Robber in jail for the rest of his life than he probably stole from the banks. But then he did terrify bank employees and customers -- and THAT is the crime. IMHO
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:35 AM
Response to Original message
1. "A lawyer can steal more with a briefcase than a thousand men with guns."
-- The Godfather, Don Vito Corleone
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:38 AM
Response to Original message
2. Plus, any boy growing up with the name
"Ivy" is going to have Major Issues one way or another. Cut him some slack! :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CaliTeacher Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:51 AM
Response to Original message
3. Good point
The double standard is pretty disgusting. Forget bank robbing, there are many doing more time for marijuana possession than Lay will do for his massive theivery.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Emerson Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:57 AM
Response to Original message
4. The difference between ken and these crimes is the level of violence
I do not believe the court system should consider the amount of money stolen (in any amount) more serious than pointing a gun at someone in an armed robbery. It devalues life in that the legislature would consider stolen money more deserving of a longer sentence than pointing a gun at someone in an armed robbery.

Ken lay is highly unlikely to shoot someone when he is back on the street. Further, lay will never be trusted again. The individual in this story is highly likely to injure/kill if out of jail.

Some would like to put stolen large sums of money on the level of armed robbery. I do not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Kenny boy probably is responsible for deaths
by people who couldn't afford to pay the inflated energy costs.

He also stole people's future -- their pensions -- and perhaps lives were lost this way.

Ken Lay should have everything stripped from him -- and let him survive on Social Security and Medicare. THAT would fit his crime -- rather than the taxpayers paying for his time in one of the Fed Meds.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Emerson Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 03:25 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. While it is very possible he is responsible for deaths
He is certainly not responsible for putting a gun in a persons face and pulling the trigger - which is an entirely seperate level.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jjstopes Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 03:16 AM
Response to Original message
6. Maybe...
[quote]It will probably cost tax payers more to keep the Bank
Robber in jail for the rest of his life than he probably stole
from the banks. But then he did terrify bank employees and
customers -- and THAT is the crime. IMHO[quote]



You are right, how about a floor to sleep on and bread and
water to eat?   Either prisoners have rights or they dont.  If
they do, don't complain about the cost - if they dont - dont
scream about the rights of prisoners.



The man is a bank rober, he should rot.


If you scream about how CEO's make so much money or steal so
much money - you better look around your house, im sure you
put a few dollars in those pockets of those CEO's you hate so
much


Boycott and they should go to jail too... 2 wrongs dont
justify..





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 03:55 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC