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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:34 PM
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Rove Leak Points to Bush Conspiracy
Robert Parry
A key national security principle for dealing with top-secret information, such as the identity of undercover CIA officers, is strict compartmentalization, often called “the need to know” – which raises the question why George W. Bush’s chief political adviser Karl Rove would know anything about the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame.

The answer to that mystery – why was Rove involved – may be more crucial to unraveling who was behind the illegal leaking of Plame’s name and the subsequent cover-up than even the identity of which Bush officials passed the information to right-wing pundit Robert Novak for his infamous column on July 14, 2003.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/071105.html

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zbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:38 PM
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1. Has anyone mentioned Poppy Bush in any of this?
He is ex-chief of the CIA, after all. Could he be the "original" source of the Plame info?
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:40 PM
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2. CHENEY went to CIA 5 times per week
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:45 PM
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3. Excellent point
I cannot imagine any reason why rove would have a "need to know" anything about Valerie Plame at the time he leaked her identity. One in political office or the military may have a top secret clearance but would not necessarily have the "need to know" top secret information about a particular operation. Once again Mr. Parry is dead on.

Which leads to the question: who told karl about her identity? Such a communication would in itself be a security breach.

But lets use free republic logic. Fuck it, Wilson was just a fucking liberal. No security breach here.
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johannes1984 Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:58 PM
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4. can't hold....
low life ,self-loving , hypocritical , christians for nuclear armement totting ,whores of simplistic idiotic get rich quick shemes addicts whilst and at the same time giving each other olyargic blow jobs to fight their white trash frustrations off and make sure their low self esteem is covered up by body bags .

Sorry guys ....just saw commentary on Bush's remarks by the ambassador to brussels ....i had to let go for a second .... he just kept saying all the marvelous things they had done for europe and the world .MOTHERFUCKERs


on the up side , this conspiracy tid bit , proves hurting the US of A does have a tendency to fling right back at ya .Now all we need is for the DSM to take up their righteous place and they're done for
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 02:07 PM
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5. What names did Bolton want?
And why?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 02:12 PM
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6. I've been saying this for a week and a half
Please click here. Apparently, I expressed the idea even earlier than July 2.

Rove is, and has always been, Mr. Bush's closest political adviser. In association with Bush, that's a glorified term for a hatchet man.

I expressed the thought on another thread earlier that it would surprise me that a person in such a position as Rove would normally concern himself with who's who in Langley or which diplomat is going on a special assignment to Niger.

Consequently, I agree that someone probably told Rove that Wilson's wife was an undercover agent at the CIA and asked him to use his press contacts do the dirty work.

It should be noted in that context that Mr. Wilson was sent to Niger at the request of Mr. Cheney's office, so any suspicion in such a theory falls on Scooter Libby or Cheney himself, although I won't pretend that I know everything and it could have been somebody at a lower level. Nevertheless, Cheney and Libby were the ones paying unusually frequent visits to CIA headquarters during the run up to the war and had easy access to Rove.

I had a fact wrong in that post: Rove was appointed deputy chief of staff in January of this year; prior to that, he was a senior White House adviser.

Also, in revising the theory -- and as Mr. Parry points out in this piece -- it isn't necessary that Rove knew that Ms. Plame was undercover any more than it is necessary that he knew her exact name; I believe he knew both, but it would be difficult to prove as long as he didn't tell any reporters that. Because of Rove's position at the White House, he has some plausible deniability about knowing too much about Ms. Plame. All Rove had to do was provide a few good reporters with a little information and let them dig it up and run with the story.

Nevertheless, the core of the theory stands: somebody told Rove about Wilson's wife and urged him to use his press contacts to spread stories aimed at discrediting Wilson.
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