With Impeachable Offenses Exposed Every Day, Why?

[ThomWV]

on earth isn't anyone talking about impeachment? For god sakes, we have treason at the highest level of Government. We have a demonstrated conspiracy to do harm to a former US Ambassador and his family, we have clear evidence of misuse of appropriated funds in the funding for the excess bombing before the Iraq War, we have gross negligence in far to many instances to list in Iraq and worst of all, clear evidence of lieing by the Chief Executive while pursuing his duty's under his oath of office. What in hell is this man still doing in power?

[Fiona]

1. Because impeachment

is a purely political process, and Bush's party controls both houses of Congress.

[longship]

2. Trust me. Impeachment is in the air.

But with an extremely partisan congress, we've got a little problem. Dems are in the miniority and the Repugs aren't going to approve hearings.

[Son of California]

4. Well

2 very important factors could convince a Republican Congress to impeach:

1) more evidence. Remember, there are a lot of things that we don't know yet.

2) If the public feels like an impeachable offense has been committed, and it pressures Congress, Congress will have to move on it, especially with the midterms looming. Even if the Repubs tried to hold out, they would probably lose enough seats to give Dems the majority at least in the Senate and close a big part of the gap in the congress.

[longship]

6. I see the latter.

More evidence will never do it. They don't care about evidence or they would already be on our side. There are two things that would sway some of them.

1. Indictments, although I'm not too sure about that. Indictments would be more likely to sway public opinion. Which bring me to your point #2.

2. Public opinion. This is the *only* way that the Repug congress is going to allow anybody to talk about impeachment. Even then, many repugs will tow the party line and go against public opinion since they have secure seats. A few may bolt, and they will pay dearly for it. It'll take some tidal change in opinion (which looks to be on its way) for official talk of impeachment to be possible in this Congress.

That's reality.

At any rate, indictments may not happen any time soon. I feel strongly that this goes to the top (or nearly so) and that Fitz is dealing with conspiracy and obstruction of justice charges. It may take many weeks more to collate the necessary information to support indictments and trials. We've got some time before this breaks big. But, I think we all now know that it *will* be breaking some time.
This ain't going away. It's bigger than Watergate ever was because right off the bat it goes all the way to the top of the administration.

[atreides1]

7. You Know What, Uh, Uh

1) more evidence? They could show Bush on national TV eating a live baby, and they still would jump up to defend him. It's not about evidence, there's enough evidence to bring charges right now. It's about keeping a grip on power, if the Repukes turn on Bush, then the people will turn on them, so it won't happen.


2)If the public feels like an impeachment offense has been committed,
and it pressures Congress, Congress will have to move on it.

What planet are you from? As far as most of the Repukes in Congress are concerned, they're sitting in the chair, and they can do anything they please.

First the Dems will have to take back the Congress, and then the process for impeachment will start, and not until then.

[FreedomAngel82]

10. I agree

Not long ago Zogby did a poll and 42% of the public is for impeachment if it shows Bush lied about going to war. 25% of them were republicans which is a pretty big number for republicans I think. This could be a huge issue for 2006 and could help us in the polls even more. So far all the polls as of late have been showing people are wanting the democrats in charge. So hopefully we can gain a lot more seats in the House and Senate and then do what we need to do.

[sepia_steel]

3. Because most of the elected Democrats

are standing around pointing fingers and scratching their asses. I'm not sure they know how to get everyone motivated, not to mention, most of them want ot win elections and don't want to piss off too many of the Powerful. Perhaps they're resigned to the idea that the wool over America's eyes is just too thick.

I don't know. But there as to be more that we can do besides donate money and sign petitions. And it has to become a widespread group effort- but with Dems, progressives, liberals, and some *-despising conservatives, all fighting with eachother, this can be hard to achieve. So what else can we do?

You're right; it's definitely past time that WE DO SOMETHING! I'm open to suggestions, but I also have to go to work for a living every day. I miss not working sometimes...

edit: Wow... spell-check is my friend... I can spell!! Just can't type...

[fricasseed_gourmet_rat]

5. Here's how.

If the evidence gets so strong that Republican senators from blue states -- i.e. Specter, Chafee, the Mainers, etc. -- are putting the reputation of their state's Republican party in jeopardy by NOT supporting impeachment (I could easily see this happening with Snoweandcollins, because as we know, they are actually the same person), then impeachment will happen.

Evidence, evidence, evidence. The approval rating is key. If Americans want impeachment -- and the inboxes of Specter, Snoweandcollins, and maybe even McCain are flooded with angry letters from constituents (PARTICULARLY CONSITUENTS WITH MONEY!) -- then it will happen.

[HawkerHurricane]

8. Not senators...

but Congressmen (House of Reps)... first the House impeaches, then the senate holds the trial.

Until enough Replutocans decide that they'll lose thier seat if they don't impeach BushCo, it's not going to happen.

[fricasseed_gourmet_rat]

11. BUT

The Senators are the cool kids. If Republican Senators are talking impeachment, the House will follow.

[BeHereNow]

9. The answer is simple:

Americans are completely ignorant when it comes to politics?
BHN

[Lone_Wolf]

12. Because we have the most sophisticated propaganda system the

world has ever seen. If you think about it, the perfect propaganda system would appear to be free and independent, but still able to carry out its propaganda function.

It is light years ahead of the crude propaganda in the former USSR, China, and Nazi Germany. These other propaganda systems were/are so crude that people knew they were getting exposed to propaganda.