Disgusting!

[Clintmax]

Yesterday, while sitting at a red light, a large truck, once used as a moving truck, passed in front of me with images of fetuses that had been aborted. They were all late 2nd or 3rd trimester abortions and the photos were blown up to immense size so that they covered the entire vehicle! It didn't register what the pictures were at first glance, but when I saw the words: "Right To Life!" plastered on the back of it, I got really mad.

There was a woman in the car to my right who had a horrible look on her face when she saw it and I could tell she was upset as well. Not to mention that she had children in her car who saw those pictures.

Why would anyone feel it was necessary to plaster such disturbing images all over a huge truck and drive around town just to show they are against abortion?? Knowing, as they must, that children are also going to see them!

If you're against something, fine! Say your peace and then shut up! But do NOT assult the rest of us with such stuff. I am pro-choice. But I do not go around with pictures all over my car! I'm sure the person who thought of that and then drove the truck through the streets of my city was a repug. Some people just need a good swift kick in the ass!

[RPM]

1. exercise your first amendment rights

get gory photos of Iraq and plaster them on your car.

I hate those fucking trucks - the money spent on that could have helped needy choldren - values my ass

[TheWraith]

40. Much sweeter and less gruesome.

Buy or make a load of bumper stickers that read "Fuck the police," or some similar sentiment. There's some good ones at this link. Tail the truck until it stops, sneak up, and put some stickers on it. If you want to go the extra mile, phone in an anonymous tip about a suspicious person driving a truck with violent images and anti-police bumper stickers. Either way, they'll get on the wrong side of the police pretty quick, and with any luck they'll soon push it a little too far.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/300655.shtml

[madeline_con]

50. "I hate those fucking trucks ..."

We have a "Wake Up White People" vehicle in town. Some moron drives around with all manner of racist shit on his truck. I guess his mom did't give him enough attention. :eyes:

[azoth]

2. And these are the same people

who'd jump up and down and have a purple hissy if their little precious angels saw Janet Jackson's nipple for a split-second.

Funny how the boundaries of common decency and acceptability morph when it's their agenda, eh?

[Clintmax]

42. Yep.

They're the only ones right and the rest of us can just go straight to hells!

[KingFlorez]

3. Their minds are warped

Some of these so-called pro-lifers are disturbed. I remember one freak even sent President Clinton an aborted fetus. It's all an attempt to make the pro-choice crowd out to be evil baby killers.

[Amelie]

32. Is that true??

If so, it's horribly illegal and disgusting on many levels. What happened to the person who sent it? I hope he's still in jail.

[KingFlorez]

35. It's true

His name is Randall Terry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_Terry. He sent the fetus to Clinton at the Democratic Convention in 1992.

[Amelie]

36. How foul

And what a freak. I see his personal life isn't exactly perfect.

[PA Democrat]

46. Yes, Randall Terry, the religious right's ringmaster of the Terry

Schiavo circus.

[adarling]

4. they are all over the place here on campus during the school year

crazy Indiana religious groups either bring the truck or huge signs screaming at all us kids about how slutty and evil we are and evil abortion sponsors. We just walk past the boards and keep going, that is all you can do because you can't debate them, people have tried and failed and there is no changing of their minds, it will never happen.

[SemperEadem]

20. time to find some images of dismembered Iraqi children

print them poster size and carry them on the days that those idiots descend on your campus. Put the obscenity back in their lap for a dance.

[barb162]

27. or that famous picture of the back alley abortion

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. I hate when people pull that kind of crap.

[ewagner]

6. They were around here

last summer.

Actually had a truck parked on a busy intersection and people holding up posters with the same pictures lined up along the road where the traffic backed up at the light.

Disgusting individuals in my book.

[Ian David]

7. It's a sort of fetishism

Secretly, deep down inside, they actually embrace that imagery and take a twisted sort of comfort or sexual titillation from it.

[Dora]

23. I agree.

True perversion.

[Clintmax]

43. I wouldn't doubt it even for a minute! n/t

[grrl62]

8. there are organized 'groups' who do this

do a search for genocide awareness project. loosely known as the G-A-P.

this particular group makes a point of traversing the country and setting up displays on college campuses comparing abortion to the holocaust/lynching etc. the campus conservative mag at my college was responsible for inviting these idiots. they received such little positive support they packed up and left early. that and we staged a fabulous counter protests;-)

--

i think the whole point is to shock dissenters into silence.

[rodeodance]

11. It is cruel -whatever the reason.

[grrl62]

15. i agree completely

these are vile people.

the worst memory i have of the situation was seeing one of these people tell a female student who had been raped that she should not have had an abortion. i mean, right to her face - 2 feet away. fortunately for that person there was a barrier separating the female student from him.

sick cruel people.

[marions ghost]

24. yes

it's intimidation
"to shock dissenters into silence"--right, that's the goal

Do they take these trucks out to pro-life bar-b-ques? I doubt it, might scare the kids.

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. I live in a powerfully Republican/Conservative area

outside Chicago. DuPage to be exact. Thankfully, the majority of stickers and 'freedom of speech' are pretty tame...at least compared to that.

I agree. Completely disgusting. But it serves the intended purpose. That is, to offend and inflame regardless of your position.

I'm trying to work up a rear window sticker now, subtle enough to get the idea across but logical. Right now, I'm about to go with: "LIMIT YOUR RIGHTS: Vote Republican" or "RESTRICT YOUR RIGHTS: Vote Republican" *tosses coin*

[spooked911]

10. I saw one of those in Wisconsin recently-- really sick people

to force that upon people. My little kids were in the car and didn't need to see that. Not to mention these people are giant assholes for not letting women have rights over their own bodies.

[WeRQ4U]

12. I agree with you about the signs, but disagree about the solution

The trucks and signs are digusting and I would not not want my children to be exposed to them. HOwever, you said:

"If you're against something, fine! Say your peace and then shut up! But do NOT assult the rest of us with such stuff."

I heard these same arguments during the lead-in to the Iraq war when protesters in Portland took to the streets and disrupted downtown traffic for a couple hours. The thing is, you can't expect people to honor your first amendment rights to expression and association if you aren't willing to accept the same from the opposition.

Just my .02

[ArkDem]

13. PETA parked one of these in front of my church with scenes

of animal slaughter. It actually had a huge screen in the side showing movies. These groups must all use the same consultants.

[rodeodance]

14. it is the violence of a 'shock and awe' tactic that is produced.

[nine23]

16. "Terrorism of the Senses". That's supposed to be okay because...

They're doing "Gods Work".

[madinmaryland]

17. These people used to picket outside of a clinic,

that was near my home when I still lived in CT (probably still do). Absolutely discusting the pictures they would have in open view. Say your peace, but don't show these hideous pictures.

[Stinky The Clown]

18. These images should be fought in the same way porn if fought

use their own porn laws against them. These images are far more disgusting than porn.

[SemperEadem]

19. Oh, but it's ok to show obscenity like that

never mind what impressionable little children see--because, you see, people like that don't care about the babies breathing air and consuming food and diapers, going to the doctor and growing into adults. They don't care that their images may frightening small children.

[RedSpartan]

21. I saw one of those being driven through Mardis Gras

a few years ago. Just horrifying. Seeing that sort of thing may make one think hard about the issue, but that is NOT the way to go about it.

No doubt if you drove a similar truck around with pics of Iraq civilian casualties or flag-draped coffins you'd be called unpatriotic, a traitor, providing aid and confort to the ememy, undermining the troops, and on and on...

[sinkingfeeling]

22. They're part of Operation Rescue/Save America.

[mark11727]

25. Where the hell did they even GET the pictures...?

If they truly felt that fetuses are as revered as they claim, you'd think they would try to avoid using them as shock images.

[Clintmax]

44. Here here, Brother! n/t

[greenbriar]

26. We have one that drives around out town too

quite frequently it gets black spray painted up...

[CabalPowered]

28. A similar truck drives up and down Waikiki on a nightly basis.

I've seen it on my last three trips. Big white cargo van with probably the same pictures blown up on the sides. This guy even has a orange rotating light on the top of the cab.

[YOY]

29. In Catholic H.S. we had a HARD CORE pro life teacher

Who spent more time talking about abortion than other issues.

He plastered those images all over his classrooms walls. Students complained but to no avail he was just set in his ways to prevent "baby murder" through shock tactics.

Naturally we pulled down the maps over them before he came to class and that just pissed him off even more. He would sourly walk to each and every one and reveal them in a huff.

So we continued doing it...and started taping porn (including one Playgirl centerfold) over the gruesome image.

The look on his face when he rolled up the map...a good time was had by all!

[annabanana]

37. The kids are alright!

That is priceless.. Did the centerfold slow down his determination to push those pictures in front of you?

(Even the kids know that the "baby murder" pics are porn of the worst kind)

[YOY]

49. Unfortunately...

no. He was as idiotically adamant as ever.

We indeed were alright. We respected most of our teachers.

This guy was just a social studies teacher who forced his opinions down our throats. He had worked there so long that any complaints of him fell on dead ears. Regardless of how we, the students, felt about abortion those posters were vile. It is hard to concentrate on a lesson about the Constitution (and of course he enforced all his beliefs with it) when you have a dead fetus looking at you.

I'll never forget the look on his face when he caught a glimpse of the playgirl centerfold...priceless. :evilgrin:

[FrannyD]

30. We have one of those

in San Leandro, CA. I just laugh at the guy.

[Helga Scow Stern]

31. Get giant pictures of dead Iraqi children with the same words. n/t

[Clintmax]

45. Oooo, excellent suggestion!

I wonder what they'd have to say about THAT! Probably throw a major hissy fit about it and I'd just sit back and laugh at them!

[Divameow77]

33. I saw a car recently with a bumper sticker

that said "It's not a choice it's a child"
I may not agree but I welcome that kind of statement over gruesome pictures any day.

[TrogL]

34. They feel god [sic] has told them the end justifies the means

[greekspeak]

38. This is part of a hypocritical, morally bankrupt sector of our society

Gay people are disgusting for having sex in their own bedrooms.

Bombing clinics? Great!
______________________________________

A nipple on TV? Call out the smelling salts!

A van plastered with aborted fetuses? Great!
______________________________________
Lies to get into war with Iraq? Great!

Lies about a BJ? Impeachment!

MENDACITY
HYPOCRACY
HUBRIS
GREED
FEARMONGERING

These are sick individuals, who are making America sick. It is up to us to stop them by taking the government away from them at the next election.

[nashville_brook]

39. it must suck to be them, driving around -- angering/frightening people

they must constantly thing of "murderous sex people" everytime they leave the house. it's almost as if they'd have to believe that the world outside of their driveway is evil and need their input in order to be good people, like them. i imagine they feel pretty self-righteous everywhere they go... walmart... the flea market... church. what would make someone feel they need a fetus on their car?

i see these people all the time in their conversion vans with large batwing upper arm flab draped across the window... which is down b/c there's no air conditioning... ??? why do they always have their windows down? they look like the kind of vehicles that cruise public recreation areas. yikes.

[seabeyond]

41. i had to explain to my 9 yr old about abortion

because some religious nut felt it was his right to get my sons education started on this subject before it was time with bumperstickers. not only did i have to talk about abortion, the argument and issues, the responsibility in sex on both genders, but the reasons people make these decisions to disease and contraceptions. i dont know how to talk just a small piece and let it go. if i talk on piece, what abortion is, i have to take it further for him to simulate the information fairly. my son also learned about homosexuality, before his time because of the religious nuts that felt it was time for him to learn.

i agree with you

[electron_blue]

47. I saw that last week, too.

I was so glad my 4 yr old wasn't with me. I know she would have been very upset by the images. I have seen plenty of pro-life propaganda during my life, but this was quite beyond that.

I'm not sure this is protected by first amendment and all. Wouldn't this be akin to shouting fire in a theater? As far as I could tell, the truck's only goal was to drive back and forth through town. Accidents are inevitable.

They have become more bold bcs they know they have the support of the White House behind them.

And another thing - why is this protected by 1st amendment, but showing a man's penis on a truck that big isn't?

[Clintmax]

48. That was one of the first things I thought of...

A young child sees those pictures, turns to mommy:

"Hey, Mommy, what's that?"

Boy, talk about opening a whole entire can of worms! People who do that sort of thing without regard to the children who are inevitably going to see it are sick!

[Ms. K]

51. It IS disgusting.

I've seen signs like that being held by pro-lifers outside the gates of Knott's Berry Farm in Buena Park.

Hello, it's a place where the children who have actually been born go to have fun! Why the hell put those kind of disgusting scare tactic signs up THERE?

Oh wait, because they don't really care about children. I've finally figured that out. These sick bastards don't care about children at all. They only care about imposing their religious morality on the rest of us. No matter that there are people who a)aren't Christian (like me), b)aren't fundamentalist whackjob Christians like they are, or c)believe that separation of church and state applies to the fundie nutjobs like it does the rest of us. That doesn't matter. After all, I've actually heard this said by my fundie whackjob in-laws, separation of church and state is not guaranteed by the Constitution, and doesn't apply to them anyway because they're doing God's work. I just quote Matthew 22:21 to them, "Give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and give unto Me the things that are Mine." Drives 'em nuts every time.

Of course, God help the first fundie whackjob that waves one of those signs in my daughter's face. He or she will have to go to the emergency room for signectomy of the rectum.

They're sick people. And they think that since their Dim Son made it to the pResidency, they are now the "cool kids" and get to run the show. Nope. Didn't work when they were in high school, and it doesn't work now. The rest of us will not be subjected to their version of morality.