Overturning Roe V. Wade will not cause the demise of the GOP

[ck4829]

After they are done taking away the rights of women, they will move on to something else.

After they reduce our mothers, our sisters, our daughters, our wives, and our lovers to second class citizens then they will move on to another valuable group of Americans.

They will do the same Hate Mongering to GLBT people as they did for Abortion.

They will most likely allow for Sodomy Laws to come back and create a Federal Marriage Amendment.

After GLBT people, who knows? Non-Christians, Minorities, Liberals in general, and any Dissenters could be the target after that.

They have been waiting for this for years, maybe even decades.

[Iris]

1. I'll bet they can simulataneously take down women and a few minorities

all at once.

[Gloria]

2. I think you may be right, unfortunately. People are so uninvolved

with humanity as a whole that they won't care. Look at how much they care about torture or what's going on in Iraq.
They want sensationalism.
Now, if the media started running "Young girl is butchered during illegal abortion" maybe they'll listen, but this sort of thing will have to run for weeks at a time, like Aruba.

Frankly, I'm too depressed over this now to even think about it. I'm trying not to. Put so much energy into this 20 years ago that I'm burned out now.....Upset about being burned out but I am just feeling fatalistic.

[HockeyMom]

3. They started with gays FIRST

Now they are working their way to women. However, women make up 51% of the population. They are going to have a FIGHT on their hands when half the population WAKES UPS.

[woldnewton]

4. I disagree...

women are not a "minority" in this country, but a majority... right now there are many women who are either anti-choice or take their rights to choose for granted...


the overturning of Roe v. Wade will be the wake up call from hell (literally). Republicans, over a few election cycles, as more and more women are impacted by something they never thought would happen, will defect, and the GOP will eventually go to permanent minority status.

The Supreme Court will backtrack and reverse their decision and reinstate Roe v. Wade.


Believe me -- the Tories up in Canada have officially added to their party plank that they would not try to overturn a woman's right to choose up there. The GOP will eventually learn the same lesson here.

The sad part is, it just may take this happening for enough people to wake up and abandon the GOP. We live in the most propaganda-laden age ever.


There is only one scenario which your prediction that GOP will survive; they may try to chip away at Roe v. Wade slowly and do it over the next 30 years, in which case you may be right, and they may manage to do what they're doing and stay in power, as long as they stick to the frog in a pot of slow boiling water approach.

[TheFarseer]

5. They can only go so far with that

as soon as you completely alienate over 50% of the population, you definitely can't win any elections. Then again look at all the women fighting to take away their own rights, and look at that gay guy working for Rick Santorum. What's gotten into some people?

[wli]

8. this election brought to you by Diebold

So much for alienating 50% of the population.

[woldnewton]

14. No.

They can't steal any elections other than close ones.

A Ukraine style situation - and believe me, it will happen, but only when an overwhelming majority of the population is ready for it, will show them the folly of their vote-rigging ways.

Kerry won Ohio, but only 52 percent of the population voted for him. The 48% who actually supported Bush, including women, blacks, and gays, are witness to the fact that it was too close to be contested.

Kerry also won Florida, but again that race was close... far closer than Ohio's. It was something like 50.04% for Kerry vs. 49.96% for Bush. Quite hard to prove Kerry won decisively with those kinds of statistics...

Diebold can't pull a Ukraine here. They can only rig elections that consistently show dead heat type figures.

[wli]

15. interesting

I thought I heard it was worse than that, but maybe not.

[woldnewton]

16. Oh, it wasn't worse in terms of how bad the stolen elections were...

But it can get worse if the elections continue to get stolen. It it depends on whether or not people remain in denial, or whether or not they're willing to do what it takes to show leadership and contest the results. If the leadership we have now won't challenge it, they'll be swept out and replaced by leadership who will.

But if strong leadership can persuade the rank and file that they've been cheated out of their democracy, then they will get out in the streets. If Kerry had fought for it, people would have been out on the streets in every major city in this country, and they would have stayed out there till we had a Ukraine style situation and Bush gave it up... or Bush retaliated... but either way, we could no longer continue on under the illusion of democracy the MSM whores are trudging on under right now... (and that includes the rest of the world, who were at least at one point, ready to consider sanctions against the US). If nothing else, that would have impacted the lives of those who like to believe Bush "won", and they would have to admit that there is a serious problem, whoever they'd like to blame for it.

[wli]

17. odd, I heard 2004 should have been a Kerry landslide

I'm completely unable to track this adequately so I'm willing to stand corrected, of course.

[many a good man]

6. Constitutional amendment?

More than 60% polled think abortion should be legal. What are the chances of passing an amendment that will put this issue to rest once and for all?

The American people always disappoint me, but they've never gone off the deep end as a whole. The media is conservative on corporate matters but tends to the liberal side on social issues. I think the Republican party would doom itself in all but a handful of states if it took on the postions described by the OP.

[wli]

9. we ourselves don't need to go off the deep end

The elections are rigged, so the neofascists can take the country anywhere they want.

[Sgent]

10. A Lot of Republicans

Probably only 20% in number, but 50% or more of financial contributions, do the same -- trend conservative fiscally and liberal socially. A lot of them have a strong libertarian streak.

The Democratic party as a whole has done a terrible job appealing to these votors. Just as we start hitting key points (pro-choice, against blanket renewal of the Patriot Act, etc.), we do something stupid like have Hillary up there touting restriction of video games.

[wli]

7. it looks pretty bad

I don't really have any good news. I figure it's a race to kill me between the neofascists and my health problems.

[Booster]

11. What makes you think they won't take down fathers, brothers,

sons and husbands who the poor girl who confided in for aiding and abetting a criminal? Seems logical doesn't it?

[ck4829]

12. They would do that.

[HockeyMom]

13. Pharmacists refusing to dispense the PIll

I read one case where a woman went in and the pharmacist refused to dispense birth control pills to her. When her husband got home from work, HE went there screaming at the pharmacist. They brought a suit against CVS.

Oh, yes. This WILL affect MEN too.