does Anybody remember the Colin Powell Palm tree incident?

[lovuian]

Ok does anybody remember awhile back the hillarious interview with Colin Powell and Tim Russert where when Tim was asking about Colin's testimony for the Iraq War the camera focused on a Palm tree and we hear a womans voice in the background this is over. And Tim Russert asking to talk to Colin Powell and that it was inappropriate.

that girl in the back was a woman who worked for Cheney's staff

and we all commented that Cheney had put a watchdog on Colin. Now after this AF1 memo incident you wonder what Colin will testify when he is in front of Fitzgerald. Since it looks like Grossman tried to make Colin take the fall...

Just thought everything is connected!!! There are no coincidences!!!

[DoBotherMe]

1. "Get out of the way Emily!"

LOL D ; )

[lovuian]

2. Ya Ya thats her name Emily was she watching Colin for Cheney

because of this

On July 6, 2003, shortly after Wilson went public on NBC's "Meet the Press" and in The Post and the New York Times discussing his trip to Niger, the INR director at the time, Carl W. Ford Jr., was asked to explain Wilson's statements for Powell, according to sources familiar with the events. He went back and reprinted the June 10 memo but changed the addressee from Grossman to Powell

was Tenet and Colin suppose to be the fall guys!!!

and set up here!!!

[hootinholler]

19. Dang! where'd you get that?

About changing the name? I have Armitage asking Ford for the memo to be sent to Powell.

-Hoot

[dmr]

20. From yesterday's Washington Post's article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517_pf.html

washingtonpost.com
Plame's Identity Marked As Secret
Memo Central to Probe Of Leak Was Written By State Dept. Analyst

By Walter Pincus and Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, July 21, 2005; A01

- snip -

The memo was delivered to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell on July 7, 2003, as he headed to Africa for a trip with President Bush aboard Air Force One. Plame was unmasked in a syndicated column by Robert D. Novak seven days later.

- snip -

The memo was drafted June 10, 2003, for Undersecretary of State Marc Grossman, who asked to be brought up to date on INR's opposition to the White House view that Hussein was trying to buy uranium in Africa.

- snip -

On July 6, 2003, shortly after Wilson went public on NBC's "Meet the Press" and in The Post and the New York Times discussing his trip to Niger, the INR director at the time, Carl W. Ford Jr., was asked to explain Wilson's statements for Powell, according to sources familiar with the events. He went back and reprinted the June 10 memo but changed the addressee from Grossman to Powell.

Ford last year appeared before the federal grand jury investigating the leak and described the details surrounding the INR memo, the sources said. Yesterday he was on vacation in Arkansas, according to his office.

[burythehatchet]

22. It was a bright moment during some dark days

[knowbody0]

3. good memory bank!

no doubt it will all tie together. thanks!

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. Wow! I am impressed

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

4. The plot thickens!

It has actually got too thick for me, but I'm trying to keep up.

[lovuian]

5. Me too we were hit with so many Republican BS but boy is it

all coming back to haunt them!!!

[BuyingThyme]

6. I'm starting to wonder if the neo-cons have enough crap on Powell

to where they can blackmail him into taking credit for sharing the Plame poop.

[seabeyond]

9. he was involved in iran contra and was sent to germany

i figured a while ago they have crap on powell

[ElsewheresDaughter]

13. Mi Lai

[BuyingThyme]

15. You have a problem with burning villages?

And the people who lived there?

[SoCalDem]

24. Don't forget the highway of death in the Kuwait war

http://www.thewinds.org/1997/02/war_crimes.html

AMERICAN OFFICIALS CHARGED FOR WAR CRIMES
The United Nations recently approved a deal that would allow Iraq to sell oil in exchange for food and other basic necessities. The deal was postponed by Iraq's invasion into the northern part of its territory to put down a Kurdish uprising. In the meantime, Iraqi children continued to starve by the thousands because of economic sanctions, and foreign aid agencies have been prohibited from entering Iraq to assist as they have done in other parts of the world. Now that the "oil for food" deal has finally been approved, Iraq may buy food for its hungry people, as well as medicine and other basic necessities, but only as long as they continue to toe the line to the implacable demands of the New World Order.

Even though the Gulf War has disappeared from the nightly news, the U.S. and Iraq are still in a state of war. The U.S. maintains a stranglehold of sanctions, no-fly zones, and other restrictions that seem to have no purpose as Iraq is no longer a credible threat to any of its neighbors. U.S. administration officials have not made public their conditions for peace so that Iraq might rebuild and return, if possible, to a normal life. The military and economic strangulation continues, inflicting death and suffering on hundreds of thousands of men, women and children, and, in spite of this "oil for food deal", no end to this suffering is in sight. Is this the "kinder, gentler" world that President George Bush promised after the cease-fire was declared?

In the months following the Gulf War "cease-fire", a War Crimes Commission of Inquiry was convened to review the actions of the combatants with the intent of determining if international law had been violated. The Commission held hearings in several key cities, gathering "direct and circumstantial evidence from public and private documents; official statements and admissions by the persons charged and others; eyewitness accounts; Commission investigations and witness interviews in Iraq, the Middle East and elsewhere during and after the bombing; photographs and video tape; expert analyses; commentary and interviews; media coverage, published reports and accounts gathered between December, 1990 and May, 1991."

The Commission of Inquiry was headed by former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, who submitted a complaint citing 19 violations of international law, not by Saddam Hussein, but President Bush and others in his administration. The Initial Complaint was submitted for review by the International War Crimes Tribunal, who found Bush, Vice President Dan Quayle, James Baker, Richard Cheney, William Webster, Colin Powell, Norman Schwarzkopf and others to be named to be guilty of the 19 charges listed in the complaint. Included in these charges are the following:

more...

[nolabels]

35. It might be short hand for the dude is just a whore

Like the dude is sold out so many times why should now be any different.

How could anyone have respect for this dude, like the last thing he would ever do is something honorable?

Leopards never change their spots

[SheepyMcSheepster]

7. nice catch

ahh..... the memories.........

[Cocoa]

8. mediamatters has the video

and some interesting info about Emily Miller.

This clip doesn't show it, but Russert went on to ask Powell about "Curveball."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200405190002

[goclark]

42. Is she related to the "reporter" Miller?

Didn't think so but I have always wondered what EMILY was all about- we never heard.

As usual, the Emperor did not choose to discuss it with the lowly ones.

What is Emily doing now? Probably going to be the next weirdo nominee to the SC.

[KerryOn]

10. Here is the transcript:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4992558/

{snip}
Emily: No. They can't use it. They're editing it. They (unintelligible).

Powell: He's still asking me questions. Tim.

Emily: He was not...

Powell: Tim, I'm sorry, I lost you.

Russert: I'm right here, Mr. Secretary. I would hope they would put you back on camera. I don't know who did that.

Powell: We really...

Russert: I think that was one of your staff, Mr. Secretary. I don't think that's appropriate.

Powell: Emily, get out of the way.

Emily: OK.

[lovuian]

11. Is it just me or was Cheney worried about what Colin would

say on TV??? Oh I stand corrected she worked for Tom Delay!!!

[KerryOn]

14. It's not just you...

... I can remember it very well. My wife and I were watching it live. There is NO doubt someone was afraid of what he would say. If I remember correctly this happen just before Colin resined, or should I say when Colin was forced to resign.

[dmr]

25. Yup, just when he was to be asked about CIA info!

From KerryOn's link above, here's the balance of that interview: This explains why the Cheney caregivers made that palm tree fall, they wanted to continue the lies probably because of Bush* and Cheney being on the campaign trail. But we all knew that here at DU at the time, didn't we? I keep getting madder and madder at these crooks. (many thanks to the original poster for an excellent memory!)

Date May 16, 2004

- snip -

Russert: Thank you very much, sir. In February of 2003, you put your enormous personal reputation on the line before the United Nations and said that you had solid sources for the case against Saddam Hussein. It now appears that an agent called Curveball had misled the CIA by suggesting that Saddam had trucks and trains that were delivering biological and chemical weapons. How concerned are you that some of the information you shared with the world is now inaccurate and discredited?

Powell: I'm very concerned. When I made that presentation in February 2003, it was based on the best information that the Central Intelligence Agency made available to me. We studied it carefully; we looked at the sourcing in the case of the mobile trucks and trains. There was multiple sourcing for that. Unfortunately, that multiple sourcing over time has turned out to be not accurate. And so I'm deeply disappointed. But I'm also comfortable that at the time that I made the presentation, it reflected the collective judgment, the sound judgment of the intelligence community. But it turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and in some cases, deliberately misleading. And for that, I am disappointed and I regret it.

Russert: Mr. Secretary, we thank you very much for joining us again and sharing your views with us today.

Powell: Thanks, Tim.

Russert: And that was an unedited interview with the secretary of state taped earlier this morning from Jordan. We appreciate Secretary Powell's willingness to overrule his press aide's attempt to abruptly cut off our discussion as I began to ask my final question.

Just read yesterday's Washington Post where it says this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517_pf.html

- snip -

The material in the memo was based on notes taken by an INR analyst who attended a Feb. 19, 2002, meeting at the CIA where Wilson's intelligence-gathering trip to Niger was discussed.

The memo was drafted June 10, 2003, for Undersecretary of State Marc Grossman, who asked to be brought up to date on INR's opposition to the White House view that Hussein was trying to buy uranium in Africa.

- snip -

It records that the INR analyst at the meeting opposed Wilson's trip to Niger because the State Department, through other inquiries, already had disproved the allegation that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger. Attached to the INR memo were the notes taken by the senior INR analyst who attended the 2002 meeting at the CIA.

I've always thought the White House made the CIA and the FBI look bad all along. You never hear bad things about the NSA, but that's because the NSA is under the helm of the White House.

[fooj]

32. He was pissed. The "Dutiful" General couldn't hide his irritation.

I remember that! I remember replaying it over and over because I couldn't believe he actually (slightly) lost his cool.

Hey Colin...You serve at the pleasure of the American People! Can you HEAR us now?

Peace.

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

39. No. He serves at the pleasure of the president, whom we did not elect.

[Burried News]

40. Another snippet - whose press aide - funny stuff - I ain't laughing

Russert: And that was an unedited interview with the secretary of state taped earlier this morning from Jordan. We appreciate Secretary Powell's willingness to overrule his press aide's attempt to abruptly cut off our discussion as I began to ask my final question.

[lovuian]

41. I love Colin saying on camera he was disturbed that he was

given "deliberately misleading evidence by the "Intelligence Agencies"

That could have meant Cheney's and Rumsfelds intelligence agency there is more than one in the whiteehouse in Bush's rule

in the old days it was just the CIA!!!

Cheney and the group were worried about Colin!!!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

12. I remember it very well. And Powell was the one who was PO'ed at his

"handler" Emily. Russert was like, WTF???!!!???

Apparently she had actually grabbed the camera or something.

[w13rd0]

16. She shut off his earpiece...

...and panned the camera, and then LIED to him and tried to tell him the interview was over...

Yeah, who is "emily" and why did Powell have "minders"?

[liveoaktx]

17. I have the vidclip

Powell and Palm Tree

[lovuian]

18. And did I hear in the clip Colin Powell say deliberately misleading

information was given to him to present by the "Intelligence AGENCY" this is an example of how the Bush Administration was handling Colin Powell!!!

[rumpel]

27. "In some cases", it appears he is referring to Curveball.

[rumpel]

28. I also remember. Who is Emily, camera crew must be NBC or affiliate, she

must have pushed the camera away. That is why Russert, is upset.

on edit would be interesting to interwiew the crew.

[liveoaktx]

30. Emily Miller-she was also a press person for Tom DeLay

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/archive/may2004.htm

[rumpel]

31. Aha.

[Sydnie]

29. I had never seen that before

Thanks for posting that. All I can say is WOW.

She worked for Cheney or Delay?

[Ugnmoose]

21. Powell is blood and guts military

And it has been well known that the career military inside the Pentagon are at war with the Neocons. They probably would love to take them down if they could. Perhaps Powell if the vehicle to do just that. You may have hit on something here.

[Beam Me Up]

26. I'm recommending this thread. I think there is something here, too.

Like some, all this is beginning to get overwhelming and difficult to keep straight. I remember this event very well and thought it extraordinarily bizarre at the time. All of these things are like clues in a mystery play that is being acted out before our very eyes -- upon which in some mysterious way the fate of the world -- our very lives -- deeply depends. And I don't think that is making *too* much of all this. If we do not staunch the rise of global fascism right here, right now, we and generations to come will have human hell to pay.

edit typo

[Burried News]

43. I agree with you. All of a sudden all kinds of pieces are falling

into place. You have to hope the pace of things continues as fast as it has for the last few days. For the first time I feel the truth is coming out faster than the liars can spin new webs. If this continues will the fog and confusion dissipate and some very powerful people will abandon Bush? You get the feeling they would like to abandon him if only 2008 weren't so far away and the mess he's created weren't so huge that it could create a real Constitutional Crisis.

My feeling is that without marches in the street they will hold the fort and duct tape the news outlets - I note that tonights CBS national news was mostly fluff with no mention of the developments in the Plame Case and the withholding of the new Abu Ghraib materials.

[Beam Me Up]

44. You may be right about 'taking to the streets'.

Somehow, we need to peacefully raise the stakes -- preferably in a way that can not be easily ignored. Or, rather, whether the CON MSM 'ignores' us or not, becomes irrelevant. They want to be irrelevant -- fine. Let them be irrelevant. We can change -- and have been changing -- the course of history DESPITE them.

[Garbo 2004]

33. Powell testified in 2004 before the grand jury.

From Newsweek:

Aug. 9 issue - Secretary of State Colin Powell recently testified before a federal grand jury investigating the leak of the identity of CIA covert officer Valerie Plame, NEWSWEEK has learned. Powell's appearance on July 16 is the latest sign the probe being conducted by prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is highly active and broader than has been publicly known. Sources close to the case say prosecutors were interested in discussions Powell had while with President George W. Bush on a trip to Africa in July 2003, just before Plame's identity was leaked to columnist Robert Novak. A senior State Department official confirmed that, while on the trip, Powell had a department intelligence report on whether Iraq had sought uranium from Niger—a claim Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, discounted after a trip to Niger on behalf of the CIA. The report stated that Wilson's wife had attended a meeting at the CIA where the decision was made to send Wilson to Niger, but it did not mention her last name or undercover status. At the time, White House officials were seeking to discredit Wilson, who had become a public critic of the Bush administration.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5570006/

[lovuian]

34. All I know is their was a witness on the plane AF1 that talked

and Colin Powell was there and had that memo in his hand.

Either Colin is really stupid or he is fed up at being Cheney's stooge!!! Thanks for all the awesome info

but I restate
in that Interview which was tried to stop by Emily

Colin Powell stated he has deliberately misleading material...

Who deliberately mislead him???

[maddezmom]

36. good memory and catch

But it turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and in some cases, deliberately misleading. And for that, I am disappointed and I regret it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4992558

[bklyncowgirl]

37. Discussions with Bush? Hmmmmm. Very Interesting......

Isn't that right around the time that Shrub got himself a lawyer?

[Tesla]

38. I remember thinking it was connected at the time.

I think I heard that right after the MTP with Powell and thought, "hum, that is weird,hum?"

[alcibiades_mystery]

45. What was the date of that interview?

n/t

[helderheid]

46. I remember

[LoZoccolo]

47. I actually think the palm tree incident isn't anything too nefarious.

You can see the camera start to move away before the question has any substance, right after Russert says "secretary". There's really no indication that the question will be controversial, embarassing, or revealing at that point. I understand that the entire question of whether or not I am a FReeper troll and whether or not I'm willing to fight the Republicans hangs in the balance of where I see the camera start to move, but that's what I see when I watch it. It seems like some kind of mistake to me, and will probably to less-interested party who you show it to in trying to convince them otherwise. It may be a more general pushing-around or hustle, but I don't think it's directly related to the question.