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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:10 AM
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Did B&G Club money get Diverted to Air America? I hope not.....
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 11:02 AM by Darkhawk32
Did Cohen improperly divert $500,000 from a Boys & Girls Club to finance AAR? Is there anybody with any other information other than these two articles?

http://www.gothamgazette.com/community/12/news

http://www.nydailynews.com/boroughs/story/331339p-283184c.html

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:14 AM
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1. Evan Cohen, the former CEO (and I emphasize FORMER), was a crook.
Watch the HBO documentary about AAR, "Left of the Dial" for more info.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:16 AM
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3. Don't have HBO... can you clue me in a bit more? n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:16 AM
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2. The last post on this got locked, as it should have. n/t
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:17 AM
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5. That's fine. If you could PM me some more details on Cohen...
that'd be cool too.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:34 AM
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21. About Cohen
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:42 AM
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31. You should do a search on Left Of The Dial. It was an excellent
documentary on the start-up, and many trials and tribulations of Air America. Cohen was a desperate man, doing desperate things. He left Air America in the very beginning. You can also do you on search on the net or even here on Evan Cohen.
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:19 AM
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8. The last post got locked because instead of
discussing the topic, people chose to Rove-ly attack the poster.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:49 AM
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24. And it's happening again it appears... gonna ask the mod to lock it down..
Seems you can't ask questions in DU anymore without being called a Freeper.

Oh yeah, I'm a Freeper. :grr:

Yeah, a Freeper that's a member of Democracy for Missouri and the Missouri Democratic Party. Unbelievable.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:16 AM
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4. I'm suspicious...
could this be another swift boat treatment?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:17 AM
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:19 AM
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9. Not a Fucking Freeper. Just read it and was curious. n/t
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:24 AM
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17. Then Why Did You Place The Freeper 'Stealing' Spin In Your Post
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 10:25 AM by loindelrio
Both articles you cite note that money MAY have been LOANED to AAR. Not STOLEN by AAR.

If the foundation illegally loaned the money, it;s their problem, not AAR's. AAR simply needs to pay back the money under the condition of the loan.

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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:28 AM
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18. deleted
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 10:32 AM by Darkhawk32
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:29 AM
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20. "Ok, I'll retract the word "stealing" and make it divert". n/t"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:34 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:44 AM
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:59 AM
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28. Whatever. I Will Let Your Posts Speak For Themselves
And where did I accuse you of being a Freeper or Reich-Wing?

I simply implied that your OP displayed typical Reich-Wing disinformation tactics. I do not know if it was on purpose or due to a lack of reading comprehension. The end result is the same either way.

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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:03 AM
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30. Even though I conceded your point and changed the thread topic...
you still continue the right-wing tactic of smearing me. Seems to me that YOUR posts speak for your true motivations.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:42 PM
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32. Ride Into Camp Waving The Enemy's Flag, Expect To Be Shot At
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 12:42 PM by loindelrio
Bye.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:27 PM
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33. Don't be so melodramatic. /dismiss n/t
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:22 AM
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13. give him a break...
Poster appears to be looking for additional info regarding two articles reporting on the matter.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:23 AM
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15. If he could search my posts, he'd see I'm not a freeper. lol n/t
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:18 AM
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7. No, but Im sure Republicans have paid someone to pull such an
accusation.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:20 AM
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10. Well, that's confusing
However, from what I can gather Air America did not steal anything.

There was a loan made to Air America though back when Evan Cohen was heading it up. At the same time he was also director of development for the local Boys and Girls Club. This loan may have been illegal for whatever reasons -- the articles do not say.

Just judging from those two articles it doesn't look like there was any criminal intent but rather the loan went afoul of whatever funding laws are on the books.

Interesting.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:21 AM
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11. See, that's what I'm trying to find out. n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:23 AM
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14. Absolutely, this is not really about AAR, it's about Evan Cohen. NT
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:21 AM
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12. Evan Cohen promised a great deal of financing, but when he was to produce,
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 10:23 AM by NYCGirl
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:24 AM
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16. Bull Sh_T headline for Posting - A person heading a group "invested"
funds from the group as a loan to be paid back with interest in the Air America Radio endeavor.

The person, Charles Rosen, was the founder of Gloria Wise who has stepped down as executive director, and the non-crime until proved is the investing city contract funds in Air America Radio in return for interest and free advertising.

but only if true -

and this is your headline "Did Air America steal money"??????

The headlines from the media links provides are:

Youth funds diverted to liberal radio station
by Michael Horowitz
July 5, 2005
Bronx News

Key kids, senior programs saved
City steps in for troubled club
BY BOB KAPPSTATTER
DAILY NEWS BRONX BUREAU CHIEF

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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:29 AM
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19. I changed the topic title. Better now? n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:54 AM
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25. The Title should be "Did B&G Club money get Diverted to Air America"?
Air America appears to be in violation of no law.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:58 AM
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27. I see your point. Subtile semantics but I can see what you're getting at.
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 10:57 AM
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26. Guess Who's Pimping This Story?
http://www.michellemalkin.com

Does that tell you everything you need to know about a story about a FORMER AAR executive who was removed for some of the very same reasons discussed in the two news stories?

It should if it doesn't.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:01 AM
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29. Ewwww. But regardless, I wanted to know if there was anything to the...
have a Freeper on another forum trying to claim that Air America is a bunch of thieves.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=52&threadid=1648596&enterthread=y

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