Isn't this funny? Texas Minutemen head quits because, hang on it's good...

[JanMichael]

...the group's racism.

Oh the irony.

Also of interest is the fact that the Brown Berets have joined the fray to oppose the Minutemen.

Heh.

[flakey_foont]

1. Ah, I see the latest dispatch

from Bizarro World has arrived...

ME THINK FUNNY

Hello

[JanMichael]

2. Oh it's a hoot all right.

I wonder if the former Minuteman will go solo?

[Kerrytravelers]

3. I knew, when I first head about these minuetmen, there would be problems.

I don't trust a bunch of people running around in the desert, basically unaccountable (like the Border Patrol or Police.) I am not shocked by this at all.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

4. I love where they say

"However it won't have any effect on targeting ." ...meaning, "We don't give a shit. pfhhhht."

[Wetzelbill]

5. I heard that, Jeez next up Pope Benedict will quit because.....

of the Catholic Church's affinity for prayer.

[JanMichael]

6. Ha!

:rofl:

[blondeatlast]

7. It's funny, alright, but if this keeps going as it has been, there is

gonna be violence at the borders.

I never trusted the Minuteman Project to stay civil, not for a moment.

[JanMichael]

8. I imagine there will be too.

Which is why I wish this posse mentality would end.

[Wetzelbill]

9. oh no way, I think it will be like the racist neo-nazi groups

Over the years the fence-sitters have left the movement, now you only see these Aryan groups filled with the really hardcore scary people.

The Minuteman Project will evolve into that, the really bad racist psychos will stick around for the long haul while the other moderate voices will get disenchanted and leave. Just like this guy, I was cracking jokes about him, but he probably is a decent guy who genuinely is appalled by the racism. Well, once guys like that drop out then you only get the worst of the worst left over. So then you'll see them really becoming a problem. So you hit that right on the head, you cannot trust them to stay civil. Now more than ever.

[Cats Against Frist]

10. Yeah, for some reason, I see this as an unraveling

of sanity in the U.S., and the end of an era where our citizens didn't challenge each other with full-on militia-style operations, and fight regional wars.

Thanks, GOP. They manage to bring out the best in everyone.

[Wetzelbill]

11. no kidding Dubya has made it cool

to be a dumb, bigoted racist in our country.

We just went nuts after 9-11. It's sad to see. Especially if you really love what we're supposed to stand for.

[JanMichael]

12. Amazing. Truly amazing. How'd they do it?

They've made a national standard of lunacy and bigotry.

God what a mess.

[Wetzelbill]

13. by playing to people's fears

everybody is scared of the elites now. So they are fearful of those shifty intelligent people always looking for an angle. I saw a poll once where people actually thought both Bill Clinton and Al Gore were "too" smart, and they didn't trust them because of it. WTF is "too" smart?

Now people are scared of anybody who looks remotely Arabic. They fear Mexicans, because they are illegal entrants and might steal somebody's job. They fear black people because they deal drugs and might rob you. Not to mention gay people. Our administration and the nuts in Congress make it sound like a gay couple is hiding behind every bush waiting to jump out at you, rob your family and tear up your wedding certificate. If terrorists don't get you the gays or liberals will. It's pretty easy to stoke the flames with that rhetoric. Not to mention that right around half of your country is pretty fucking dumb too. Then it becomes like shooting fish in a barrel. That's one reason Republicans are getting tough to beat, because two idiots with outvote one genius every time. It's hard to fight that and Diebold all at once.

[JanMichael]

15. That pretty much sums up conservatism in general.

Playing people against their fears real or not.

Toss in a mind killing mass media and voila, today in America.

[Wetzelbill]

18. exactly

[wli]

22. hmm, I hear more of people scared s**tless of Bushler & co.

The notion that Bushler was going to try to imprison and enslave all US citizens using Rex 84 camps originally came out of the far right wing (they think foreign UN troops are going to imprison and enslave them and they need the militias to fight the invasion; laughable stories about soldiers with "European accents" guarding purported Rex 84 camps are spread by them, along with dubious and unverifiable Auschwitz-style crematoria stories). The camps are real but not terribly well-understood; it looks like they're only useful for very temporary arrangements, like mass arrests of protesters, from the reports of Pier 57 and post-Seattle WTO demonstrations. i.e. the ones people have seen the insides of thus far are not much more than a bunch of barbed-wire fences and port-a-poddies. More serious affairs are generally better defended against external incursions than flimsy fencing. Anyhow, the Rex 84 affairs (granted, they are extremely sinister and far beyond disturbing) appear to have worked up at least some of the right wing militia types into a frenzy of fear.

Similarly, it's been something of a pattern for right-wing extremists to make compounds and attempt to resist by force of arms federal agencies that come to confiscate their weapons. The government incursions in these cases are a self-fulfilling prophecy, as the ATF et al wouldn't bother trying to raid them if they'd not gathered the weapons to resist the raids in the first place. But again, the original motive was fear of the government.

Various similar fears are expressed by those on the left (such as myself), though they are generally better thought out and more realistic-sounding.

So, to be honest, I see racism on the decline vs. a far beyond vast increase in fear of the government.

[RagAss]

28. True....I think it was the Fear. Fear makes you act like that..

bonding together with others who are afraid, and puffing out your collective chest. This whole extreme RW movement can be summed up as one big damn defense mechanism.

[screembloodymurder]

14. Don't see your point.

Are you saying someone who wants to control our borders, is a racist?

[JanMichael]

16. The head of the Texas branch seems to think so and he's on the scene.

That's my point.

[screembloodymurder]

31. Yes, but he's not a racist.

You seem to think border control is racially inspired. It ain't necessarily so. I happen to think we should concentrate on providing jobs for our own citizens instead of bringing in illegals to keep wages low. Does that make me a racist? Mark my words. This will be a huge issue in the next Presidential campaign.

[Lannes]

32. Good point

There are some people that have legitimate concerns about illegal immigration but unfortunately the issue also attracts flat out racists.

Bush doesnt believe border security is that important which has been expressed often at DU.Does that make some people here freepers for feeling that way? Of course not! Neither does it necessarily make people who are concerned with weak border security and its consequences racists.

edit for clarification.

[Cleita]

17. Apparently, a spokesman for the Minutemen stated on

TV that Americans don't need anyone here who "don't speak English". That is their whole racist agenda in a nut shell. I'm happy at least some of these jerks are wising up.

[Maestro]

19. .

See my post in this thread as well

[JanMichael]

20. I missed NSMA's thread the other day.

Damn her and her lightening quick news scanning powers!

It is amazing however the number of DUers that fall for this shit...


EDIT: I should add that the Brown Berets story is really what got me interested in this story today. Perhaps I should have focussed more on them since nobody has mentioned them in this thread.

[PurityOfEssence]

21. Texas, founded on selfishness, racism and lies holds true to its roots

When Mexico broke from Spain, they wanted to find a way to populate their northern territory lest it be taken from them. They made a three-point deal to Americans and immigrants to the new land: you're welcome if you learn Spanish, become Catholic and GIVE UP YOUR SLAVES. Well, the hell with that crap. People flooded in to get land, but few lived up to the bargain, and that last one was just too much to bear. When Santa Ana voided the Constitution of 1824, it gave people an excuse.

Texas independence: a war to preserve slavery and renege on business promises. To this day, extreme selfishness is a trait of pride in that state, and regardless of islands of decency like Austin, the place is cowboy feudalism with a blind eye toward the weak.

[Maestro]

23. This sort of territorialism is not Texas specific

There are many good Texans that now live here including me. According to your logic, the US should be condemned and the Spanish for colonizing Mexico, Central and South America as it did.

[leeroysphitz]

24. Six degrees of Texas.

Isn't it funny how just about anything really BAD that has happened in U.S. politics in the last 40-50 years always seems to have some sort of Texas connection to it, no matter how small? Or how whenever Texas politics go national we seem to start having wars and whatnot. Now Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there is a conspiracy, it's all just coincedence...

[Maestro]

27. I guess Barbara Jordan

LBJ, who slapped down repukes all over the place, Ann Richards, Jim Hightower, Molly Ivins, Jim Wright and a slew of other Democrats were just an anomaly?

Edited: Poor choice of words

[leeroysphitz]

30. I think you missed my point.

I apologize for not being more clear.

[I Know How To Do it]

25. I'm just suprised that one of the Minutemen hasn't accidentally

shot himself or shot another Minutemen yet.
C'mon, you know it's going to happen.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. Kinda like discovering the KKK isn't a branch of the NAACP.

Was that before or after sobering up?

[LWolf]

29. lol

My thought exactly.

:rofl: