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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:50 PM
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"An Insult To EVERYTHING I Believe In As An American"
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 12:19 AM by Hissyspit
bvar22 posted this to a couple of other threads and I am posting it as a separate thread with her/his permission...


Secret Detentions, Secret Prisons, Secret Tribunals are an insult to EVERYTHING I believe in as an American!

The Forefathers made it clear that Human Beings are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.." --Declaration of Independence

The forefathers MADE IT CLEAR that our rights do NOT come from the government, but solely from the fact that we are Human Beings!
An attempt to argue that the Protections in our Constitution are ONLY for some Human Beings remind me of Animal Farm where "some" animals were more equal than others." Arguing that Constitutional Rights extend ONLY to US Citizens indicates a PROFOUND misunderstanding about America and the values this country claims to stand for.

It is very simple. You either believe that our country was founded on values that extend beyond mere governments, and that our sacred documents restrict Government, or you Don't believe it.


GITMO DEPRIVES ME OF MY RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN!!!

The right of Due Process and Public Trial was specified not ONLY to protect those detained by our Government, but it also confers on me, an American Citizen, the RIGHT and RESPONSIBILITY to observe the Government in action. It is MY RIGHT and RESPONSIBILITY to OVERSEE the government. It is absurd to argue that this RESPONSIBILITY is limited by our National Borders. There is NOWHERE in the WORLD where those who serve IN MY NAME should be able to hide from the supervision of the American People. The Forefathers GAVE the PEOPLE the responsibility of Supervising the Government! Whenever those who serve IN MY NAME act to hide the actions of MY government, something is BAD wrong!


It is MY RIGHT and RESPONSIBILITY as an American Citizen:

*to know the NAMES and ORIGIN of those who are being held captive IN MY NAME!

*to HEAR their OWN story in their OWN words delivered in a PUBLIC Forum

*to study the evidence and testimony of those who have accused them

*to hear and study ANY evidence that the accused can present in his/her defense



I DEMAND that my government HONOR my RIGHTS and RESPONSIBILITIES as an American Citizen.
The secret detention centers and secret tribunals are an INSULT and an ABOMINATION to ALL American Citizens, and a direct violation of the Limits imposed on Government in our Constitution!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:03 AM
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1. And I fuckin' agree!
It's a travesty of proportions I can't even begin to imagine.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:11 AM
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2. Your words would be great on a Poster.....n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:45 AM
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3. Bumper stickers and Tee's too
Just 5% More of us CAN and WILL make a Huge Diff.

Reason and Sanity Must be Resqued from the NeoCons who hold them Captive.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:14 AM
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13. I was thinking tees...
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:46 AM
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4. My sentiments EXACTLY!
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 12:48 AM by bvar22
Recommending for Greatest Page.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:01 AM
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8. yes, they are!
:P
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:06 AM
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5. Beautiful post.
Recommended.
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AngelAsuka Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:17 AM
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6. Beautiful...
The emphasis evident in point after point... And still I wonder -- rhetorically for the most part :( -- WHY this isn't so obvious to the 'average person'?!? :argh:

:kick: and nominated.

~~AA~~
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:07 AM
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7. Nominated and kicked
shout it from the house tops
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:09 AM
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9. Thank You.
You are right. It is simple. Stand up against it when _they_ come for others, or there will be no one to stand up when _they_ come for me.

USA government does it to one they do it to all.


Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:10 AM
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10. This is the right response to those "Freedom isn't Free" creeps.
Damn straight it's not. And YOUR job is to police the administration... and why are you SLACKING OFF!?!
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:28 AM
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11. Nominating and thanks for re-posting this.
n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:41 AM
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12. Hey anarchy 1999! Yeah, he orginally posted it and it...
fell like a rock, then he reposted it as a response in the "Gitmo Trials Rigged" thread and I told him he should post it as a thread, not knowing he already had, but I thought it too good to let pass unnoticed.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:06 PM
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14. Fantastic, well said, kicked, nominated again.
eom
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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:10 PM
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15. Four legs good, two legs bad
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:13 PM
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16. Betrayal, torture, treason, exploitation, fraud, murder,....
,...describes everything this country's leadership stands for!!! How the fuck am I supposed embrace being an American in a country being led by thse human scum who are continuing to engage in so many illegalities and absolute human horror?

FUCK!!! :argh:

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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:20 PM
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17. Very succinct and well done!
I concur wholeheartedly.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:32 PM
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18. Kick and nominated...eom
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:13 AM
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19. DEMAND it in PERSON --- Sept 24! Impeachment Party!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1975674


5 Million Uppity People needed in Washinton DC Sept 24-26 2005




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