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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:30 PM
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In regards Bolton, what am I missing?
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 05:11 PM by dsc
I keep hearing here that Bolton is being sent to the UN to get them to agree to war with Iraq. Bolton is universally hated by foreign diplomats. Why would he send this man? It seems pretty hard to believe that even these people are that stupid. Had he really wanted a person to get them to allow an invasion of Iraq he would have sent someone they respected. Bolton isn't it.

What Bolton is about, is power and rewarding loyalty. No less reason to oppose him, but invading Iraq seems far fetched.

Sorry dumb typing of course I meant Iran.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:31 PM
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1. Do you mean Iran? Iraq was invaded in March 2003
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:32 PM
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3. Whistle, do we share a brain? n/t
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:22 PM
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13. Stranger than George Norry isn't it.....
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:31 PM
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2. Do you mean Iran? ** already invaded Iraq. n/t
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:33 PM
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4. A long time ago invading Iraq seemed far-fetched. Not so now. -eom
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:33 PM
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5. I think you meant Iran.
Other than they refuse to budge an inch on anything, and Bolton is totally their guy and deeply involved in all of their misdeeds, I don't think there is any particular reason why they couldn't have substituted a differn clown for the one they got.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:37 PM
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10. Yes sure Iran not Iraq, but why this clown instead of some other?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:34 PM
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6. When they react badly to the Iran plan
we can say we tried to work with the UN, but they were being unreasonable. And then we'll go out unilaterally, again.

I don't think he's going there to make things easier re: working with the UN. I think he's going there to give us an excuse NOT to work with them.

I keep thinking of what someone called him, a rabid weasel in a hen house. We are so screwed.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:38 PM
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11. Someone owes an apology to weasels
Bolton has been forced onto our nation because the Neocons want to ruin any chance diplomacy has to solve disputes. He will simply make the roads to war shorter. Remember -- they WANT war.

Please don't repeat the insult to weasels that Bolton is one. By comparison, the weasel is a noble creature.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:12 AM
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18. Such a ruse would be much more likely to work...
if they chose someone other than Bolton. America's favourite Wilfred Brimley impersonator already has a reputation for being unreasonable (even in the corporate media). So if heads clashed in the UN over Iran, it's a lot more likely the blame will be layed on Washington and not Europe.
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:35 PM
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7. They know the UN won't agree with him.
Than they will say see the UN is corrupted.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:35 PM
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8. the N?
;)
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:35 PM
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9. Like Paul Wolfowitz's PNAC, Bush views Bolton as a visionary...
Bolton doesn't want to destroy the UN, he wants to give the United States the ability to force the UN to either go to war at America's request or clean up the mess after.
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leesfirst Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:25 PM
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12. Bolton
THE ANATOMY OF A WUSS!
BUSH DESERVES IMPEACHMENT!
What set many of us off this morning was the MARK of a FAILURE and the Bush end-run around anyone who gets in his way, as George Bush, Presidential Wuss, appointed Bolton to a position he does not qualify for, resulting in our country's further loss of respect by the world! Like a spoiled child, determined to get his way, he shoved Bolton down our throats, despite objections of many, and denied documents that showed the truth of Bolton’s inadequacies to hold the position of Ambassador to the U.N! George W. Bush is a weak man and a failure!
You can always tell a weak man, his greatest fear is appearing weak! He must lie, cover-up, never admit mistakes, his ego is out front and center and blame is his game. He converts all his opinions into dogma declaring all his decisions to be absolute truth! The “wuss” surrounds himself only with his most loyal subjects and secrecy is their password! George W. Bush is a WUSS!
Deceiving his nation into war for ego, oil and legacy, gives us a glimpse into his personality. Noted author Eric Hoffer points out, “It is to escape the responsibility of failure that the weak so eagerly throw themselves into grandiose undertakings!” The War on Terror and Bush’s nation-building shows us this! George Bush is a pretender to the crown of moral values, as is his War in Iraq!
Thomas Fuller, claimed that, “The weakest and most timorous are the most revengeful and implacable!” PlameGate is an example of that, as George and his Unholies take revenge against Joseph Wilson, as they once did against Paul O’Neill, Richard Clarke, John Kerry, John McCain, and anyone who opposed them. Character Assassination is their middle name! As broken promises to hold those accountable are altered once again, it shows us this is not the action of an honest or a strong person. GEORGE W. BUSH IS A WUSS!
Implacable, the supporters call it determination, but the alert know Bush’s move to appoint Bolton to the U.N. shows the Bush tendency to be a “LAW UNTO HIMSELF” never challenged. It is not a President’s right to ignore the obvious, Bolton was a FAILURE at his job, he disliked the U.N., and his temperament and previous actions showed a distinct lack of the character! Still, Bush remained implacable, in his, “my way or no way attitude!” Many, if not all, of Bush’s pre-presidential business undertakings were failures, and Poppy or Poppy’s friends and MidEastern buddies were always there lend little Georgie a helping hand! Remember, “HARKEN”! Bush and Bolton are two peas in a pod!
George Bush’s ethical standards are always brought into question, his tax policy benefiting the wealthy, his Energy Policy, a giveaway to Bush-friendly corporations, his opposition to stem cell research{unless defined by his or supportive religious extremist terms} and his indifference to the health of the world by denying “Global Warming” prove a failure of commitment to his nation and the world! George Bush is the worst environmental President, he absolves his responsibility, and undermines the health of the citizens of this nation as he appoints all the foxes to guard the environmental henhouses! His vice President’s Energy Task Force showed the indifference to state’s energy problems as Enron and other Pioneers and Rangers defined the energy policy for the U.S. The altering of scientific analysis to deceive the public in Global Warming and in the EPA data about the air around the 9/11 site, both proven, go against Bush’s declaration of being a moral leader!
Hidden and blocked investigations, redacted documents, questionable elections, paying the press to reflect his views, the Downing Street Memo, more secrecy, and more scandals then has ever happened before in one Administration surrounds Bush and his Administration with the STENCH OF DECEIT AND DISHONESTY! Bush’s power grabbing policies show that he and his Republican cohorts will stop at nothing to gain political advantage! They do not have ANY ETHICAL STANDARDS, and never before has anyone deserved to be IMPEACHED more than this “WUSS!”

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:25 PM
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15. I agree that this White House and the president are now outlaws
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:19 AM
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16. Hi leesfirst!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:26 AM
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17. first off welcome leesfirst!
next, my reason for opposing bolton is his disregard for the un. would you allow a former kkk grand wizard to run the civil rights commission? bush and friends have had nothing but hatred for this orgainization and this is hsi way of "getting" them.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:24 PM
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14. Cause Bush is a stupid fucking ass hole
You're talking about a fuck-faced jack-ass who has no more sense than a pile of shit.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:20 AM
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19. I don't think you're missing anything.
If Bush were trying to sabotage the UN to lay the groundwork for an invasion of Iran, he'd choose someone that at least has the facade of being reasonable.

For some people the quagmire in Iraq, the health care crisis, and the largest budget defecit in history just aren't sexy enough. Hence all the groundless speculation about Iran.
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