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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:25 AM
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Americans anxious about U.S. foreign policy - poll
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-08-02T231735Z_01_N02651259_RTRIDST_0_USREPORT-USA-POLL-DC.XML

Americans anxious about U.S. foreign policy - poll
Tue Aug 2, 2005 7:18 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans are anxious about the direction of
U.S. foreign policy and how the country is perceived overseas and a
majority believe the government has been too quick to go to war, a
survey released on Tuesday said.

"Contrary to conventional wisdom that the American public doesn't
know and doesn't care how it is seen abroad, strong majorities"
believe the U.S. image overseas is suffering and "large majorities
are worried about it," the survey concluded.

Some 63 percent of Americans say the charge that the United States
has been too quick to go to war is justified and three-quarters worry
about losing trust abroad and about the growing hatred of the United
States in Muslim countries, it said.

"So far, public thinking is a disquieting mix of high anxiety,
growing uncertainty about current policy and virtually no consensus
about what else the country might do," the survey concluded.

The national survey of 1,004 American adults between June 1
and June 13 was conducted by the Public Agenda, a non-profit
organization dedicated to public policy research, in conjunction
with Foreign Affairs magazine, which is published by the Council
on Foreign Relations.


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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:35 AM
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1. They speak like this hasn't been happening for years...
I'm an Australian, and I can tell you guys that America is a laughing stock here.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:36 AM
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4. That is really bad. I remember when America could
do no wrong in Aus.

Scumbag bush.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:14 AM
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2. Well, enough of our populace felt * can help 'em.
Good luck.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:03 AM
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5. No, dear..."enough of Bush's major donors and campaign chairs who
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 07:18 AM by Peace Patriot
own electronic voting machine companies and who tabulated 80% of the 2004 election 'results' with secret, proprietary software felt * can help 'em."

And Kenneth Blackwell and a few war profiteers who own all the news monopolies (which falsified the exit polls results on election night) "felt * can help 'em."

If you think "enough of our populace" felt that way, can you show me where their votes are? (--a third of the country voted with no paper trail, on machines with "trade secret," proprietary software).

I don't take anybody's vote for granted. I don't think there are "red" states and "blue" states. I think there are only DISENFRANCHISED states--which is most of them.

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This isn't the first poll that shows that 60% to 70% of the American people disapprove of Bush policy. ALL polls show it, on every issue, spanning the last year. You name it. The Iraq war. Torture policy. Social Security. The deficit. Women's rights. The great majority of Americans disagree.

And you believe that "enough of our populace felt * can help 'em"? On what basis do you believe that? On the basis of Diebold's and ES&S's "official tally"? (har, har)
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:27 AM
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3. "...and virtually no consensus about what else to do"
How about making peace :shrug:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:38 AM
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8. "virtually no consensus..." That doesn't mean that there are NO ideas.
There may be a lot of good ideas--a lot of plans for peace. Variety doesn't mean "no consensus." It just means that the Bush Cartel has created a colossal and complicated MESS of things--a horrible, unending, thieving, lying, torturing, goddamned murdering DISASTER, and it's no wonder that people can't solve it easily--especially with the news monopolies creating a black hole into which they throw the best options. No discussion allowed. Withdrawal. U.N. protectorate. Letting the Iraqis write their own Constitution (instead of Halliburton writing it). CONSULTING THEIR NEIGHBORS. Removing U.S. war profiteers--seizing their assets and all their war profits and turning it all over to the Iraqis. Impeaching Bush for war crimes.

There are LOTS OF THINGS that could and should be done--that Americans are talking about, that NEVER GET COVERED by the news monopolies. If we had a free press, we would damn well have reached "consensus" by now. In fact, if we had a free press, we wouldn't have this disaster on our hands in the first place.

We HAD consensus. 58% of Americans OPPOSED THE INVASION in Feb. 03. And that consensus was ignored!

Americans could smell a Vietnam coming. We KNEW it. And the Bush Cartel and their lapdog press wouldn't give that CONSENSUS the time of day.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:06 AM
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6. Anxious?
Gee maybe we're breaking through that barrier of apathy. I've been down right terrifed for quite some time now. Passed anxious in 2000.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:16 AM
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7. Talk about a wrong headline! Americans are "anxious"? ANXIOUS?
"Some 63 percent of Americans say the charge that the United States
has been too quick to go to war is justified...."

Let me repeat that.

"Some 63 percent of Americans say the charge that the United States
has been too quick to go to war is justified...."

That is not "anxious." That is a CONDEMNATION of Bush Cartel policy. That is ANGER. That is OUTRAGE. That is DISENFRANCHISEMENT!


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See my post above about the stats on American opinion on all issues--all overwhelmingly anti-Bush for over a year, on all major Bush policies, foreign and domestic.

My favorite of them is this: 58% of the American people opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion. Before everybody knew it was all lies. I'll never forget that stat. Feb. '03. That's not "anxious." That's PEACE-LOVING.

Another good one: 63% of Americans oppose torture UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. May '04. That's not "anxious." That's not fearful. That's STANDING BY YOUR PRINCIPLES despite relentless the fearmongering.

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"Contrary to conventional wisdom that the American public doesn't
know and doesn't care...."

"Contrary to conventional wisdom." And whose "conventional wisdom" would that be? These news monopolists apparently don't read their own polls.
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