What is the one issue that you will not budge from your position?

[WindRavenX]

Although I am not specifically referring to one issue voters, this question that I ask can most certainly apply to them.

For many of us liberals, this one issue is usually one of women's reproductive rights, freedom of speech, or gay rights; an issue so vital and uncompromisable that all other positions are simply idiotic.
My issue, however, is none of the issues I have mentioned (although they are absolutely critical to me), but it is one that I have no tolerance for a contrary position.

And that issue is teaching "Intelligent Design" in public science classes.
I have no tolerance for those who call for the incorporation of pseudo-science into teaching real science; anyone who tries to tell me to teach that the earth might not be billions of years old is in my view a fucking idiot. I will NOT budge on this.

Seeing Bush call for this has made me insanely angry these past days.

Other issues?

[wryter2000]

1. Separation of Church and State

Intelligent Design falls under that rubric. The imposition of religion is also one of the forces involved in reproductive freedom, hatred of gays, and lots of other things.

On edit: Here's another thing...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4253815

[etherealtruth]

7. Agreed

Keep them separate and many important issues "take care" of themselves

[The Doctor.]

2. I agree with your stance on 'ID'...

But I was of the impression that some actual physicists thought it up and never made the claim that the Earth or Solar system were any younger than several billion years old.

When did creationism and ID combine?

I would have to say my absolute stand is for anything which is empirical and factual. I have no tolerance for people who are willfully ignorant.

[wryter2000]

4. When did creationism and ID combine?

ID supplanted Young World Creationism because only a lunatic fringe would believe that.

[WindRavenX]

8. ID is often used as a cloak to teach Christian creationism

While not the same thing, I have heard many students being taught Biblical creationism as the start of life.
Which is another interesting thing because once again I'd like to state:

EVOLUTION IS NOT ORIGIN SPECIFIC.
Yet, we see dumbasses keep trying to label evolution as inherently without God/Creator.

[Kraklen]

12. when did they combine?

roughly in the 80's when Creationists lost some court battles over "Creation Science" in classrooms. They switched the name to "Intelligent Design" and here we are. Tricky little bastards are evolving.

ID's got nothing to do with physicists. It's unfortunate that such an idea is out there.

[DanCa]

23. ID is a trojan horse used by the prolifer's.

I think it started in the early two thousand's, at least that's what happened to me with the rcia board in my familys church. IF they use the same guideline's it's going to hybrid traditional teaching of the bible with a prolife political agenda.

[Fire Walk With Me]

33. "Tricky little bastards are evolving."

Haha, irony. Do they get it though?

[Book Lover]

3. Choice

It amazes me that right-wingers don't see this issue in terms of responsibility. What could be more right-wing than insisting a woman ensure she doesn't become pregnant by accident? It's the ultimate personal responsibility issue!

[MikeNY]

5. Right to privacy

The right to privacy is implied by the Constitution but neo-cons are implying there is no such thing

[jody]

6. Individual rights. n/t

[youthere]

26. I agree...this covers everything. n/t

[nosmokes]

9. sorry, i have more than one...

*indiscriminate logging of ancient forests and other corporate *despoilation of pristine (or nearly pristine) lands
*civil rights for all
*choice


and yeah, i know i'm living in never-never land, but not michael jackson's never-never land, thank god...

[Kraklen]

10. I have to pick one?

It's hard to choose between:

evolution

censorship (particularly of video games and rap music)

affirmative action

gay rights

womens rights

[WindRavenX]

11. here's how I seperate the issues:

Do anti-choice supporters at least have an arguement based on reality?
Yes.
Do IDs and anti-evolutionists? No.
That's how I seperate them.

[Kraklen]

14. You give anti-choicers more credit than I do.

I don't think they're any more based in reality than Creationists or Tom Cruise.

[WindRavenX]

16. but their arguements may be

In no way do I give them credit, but they at least have some ability to have a logical defense of their views.
Anytime I hear someone say "the world is <billions of years old" I tune out. They're just assgoblins.

[Kraklen]

17. the only argument I hear is "life begins at conception."

Which is a sort of wishy-washy faux spiritual statement of opinion not unlike "life is too complex to have happened by coincidence."

I agree on the assgoblins.

[WindRavenX]

19. Agreed

There is no context of logic for IDs and creationist :hi:

[enigmatic]

13. Equal rights

For everybody, regardless of race, creed, or gender.

[OneBlueSky]

15. my issue is and always has been the environment . . .

the human penchant for fouling our own nest is thoroughly self-destructive, since without a livable environment that supports the Earth's magnificent diversity, nothing else will really matter much . . . candidates who do not enthusiastically support environmental protection do not get my votes . . . ever . . .

on edit: war -- particularly the kind being waged in Iraq -- is one of the most environmentally destructive human activities . . . so I'm agin it . . .

[Solly Mack]

18. Human Rights

[distantearlywarning]

20. Separation of Church and State.

And all of the things associated with this issue (intelligent design, pharmacists refusing to sell birth control, etc...)

I will not live in a theocracy.

[Initech]

21. "Intelligent" design and creationism

I do not advocate the teaching of such theories in schools. Save that for the church!

And I especially do not advocate the teaching of a theory that attempts to make creationism look intelligent.

[DanCa]

22. Stem Cell Research

Just comming out of an eight hour barely can move off period due to Parkinsons. I really want the President to spend just one day with me, so I can show him how pd people live. I would also like for him to look me square into my eyes and tell me a cell cluster is more important than a living breathing person.

[Fenris]

24. Reproductive freedom.

Not one goddamn inch.

[tomg]

25. This is like one of those deals

where you get one wish, but you can't wish for a whole shitload of wishes, so you look for one wish that sort of gets everything else in.

my one non-negotiable: economic justice

Okay, that's cheating, along the lines of "and they all lived happily ever after."

I think your question, though, is closer to "what issue is so central to you, that any other position aside from your own could only be held by either Satan or a fucking idiot" - for me, that's easy: gay rights. It is absolutely incomprehensible to me how anyone can deny gays and lesbians full and total rights: civil unions ( I don't think the government should be in the marriage game, but if they are, then marriage), adoption, all of it, top to bottom.

[ThomWV]

27. That Every Vote Be Counted - Without That There Is Nothing

It is the basis for all that follows.

[Lannes]

28. The constitution

and that Im the best damn looking poster on this board :P

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. Anti-war. Abortion rights. Separation of Church & state.

Which means that I'll be voting Green in '06, and probably in '08.

[tedoll78]

30. Supreme Court nominees.

I will budge on a LOT, as far as a candidate's personal views on the issues.

I'll budge on the war.
I'll budge on support for civil unions in lieu of equal marriage.
etc
etc.

But the courts are where the rubber hits the road, on so many issues. If the issue is the slightest bit controversial, chances are it'll be brought to court. And the Supreme Court is equivalent to The Final Word on an Issue. If we have the court, we win the debate.

[foreigncorrespondent]

31. Intelligent Design is an issue of importance to me...

...but not my top issue.

The one issue I cannot budge on is equal immigration rights in the U.S.

Even though I cannot vote in an American election, this issue still affects me on a personal level, each and every passing day.

My partner was born in the U.S. When she was born, she was born with certain inalienable rights. Yet a lot of those rights were stolen from her the moment she began a relationship with someone of the same sex.

And yes, all gay rights are a big issue for myself and my partner. Marriage would be nice, but we would much prefer just to be able to finally begin our life together.

[Redstone]

32. I gotta go with pretty much everyone on this.

All of the issues raised in this thread are worth fighting for.

And, Madam WRX, you asked a helluvan important question. I hope everyone takes it seriously.

Redstone

[Fire Walk With Me]

34. Human rights implies separation of church and state

Relative truth backed by laws and guns..feh.

The ability to chose for one's self is truth.

[journalist3072]

35. My issues that I am firmly planted on..

I will not budge on:

1. Affirmative action (I truly believe it is a corrective program, meant to right past wrongs. I will not budge in my support of affirmative action, until the playing field has leveled).

2. Full representation in the Congress for D.C. Residents---I am a resident of D.C., AND I pay my federal taxes faithfully each year. Yet, I have no adequate representation in the U.S. Congress. I have no Representatives and no Senators supporting my interests.

There are others on my list, but my brain is fried right now!