whosinpower
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:25 PM
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In light of the fact that the NYT is investigating Roberts adoptions |
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Ask yourselves why nobody thus far has asked the most obvious question - WHY DIDN'T ROBERTS ADOPT CHILDREN FROM THE US?
There are no children in the US to adopt?
Or - there were no "suitable" (white, healthy, and blonde) children in the US? Did he feel compelled to go out of country to negate any influence peddling being that he was a judge?
Or - Judge Roberts failed the requirements?
Or - Roberts SAVED those children? ( I was thinking of a program about children with aids in Ukraine(?) and how people from the west would travel over and pick out an abandoned child from the orphanages)
Why couldn't he go through the normal channels?
His family looks perfect. Too perfect.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:28 PM
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1. It's hard to find white kids without disabilities.... |
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He could have found plenty of children of other colors.
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whosinpower
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:29 PM
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3. If what you are suggesting is the way it happened |
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Then that fact speaks volumes to me - into the character of this man - this man that is supposed to make judgements in the highest court in America.
Think about it.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:37 PM
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9. I think it's more difficult to adopt white babies. |
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I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression there are plenty of older white children awaiting adoption. My SIL and her husband are in the process of adopting an 8-year-old girl, but I know of no one personally who has adopted a white baby. I know lots of people who adopted babies, but none of the babies are white, and none came from this country.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:29 PM
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2. I don't know alot about it but... |
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...I've always been under the impression that it is simply easier for some reason to adopt children from overseas.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:31 PM
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more expensive but faster. Also I think there's less chance of an adoption falling through once it's begun.
I have a friend going through this process and I believe that's the difference.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:30 PM
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4. I posted something like this a few weeks ago |
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Wouldn't it be bizarro world if Robert's Adoption sunk his nomination. Did the Robert's try any "non natural" forms of fertlization prior to adopting?
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:31 PM
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6. Yes, but he couldn't get pregnant... |
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They think his ovaries were damaged by chlamydia.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:42 PM
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13. Well I have heard some people say it is because he is gay and the marriage |
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is a farce. They don't sleep in the same rooms and have never consumated the marriage. That's why they had to adopt. At least, this is what has been said.... :)
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:33 PM
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7. maybe he or his wife had some medical condition that ruled them out |
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Maybe Drudge is wrong----it wouldn't be the 1st time and until the NYT confirms it i'm keeping an open mind.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:34 PM
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8. can you cite a link? I'm having trouble finding the NYT info - thanks |
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:39 PM
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10. there is no link cuz it's from Drudge |
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so take it with a large grain of salt.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:47 PM
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15. And Drudge can make up any shit he wants. |
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"lessee--I'll just say the NYT is investigating this angle? What can I lose? nothin', that's what! Damn, my hat is smelly. whoo-ee!"
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:41 PM
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11. He got blonds from South America. |
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Is there a big market in that?
Was it Argentina?
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:42 PM
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12. Much easier and faster to adopt overseas. |
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I have two family members who have both adopted, one from Russia(little girl) the other from China(little girl). China isn't too crazy about having female children from what I hear. Russia I figured my relative(rich VP) just flew over and used a lot of cash to adopt quickly.
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:44 PM
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14. "Or - there were no "suitable" ... |
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(white, healthy, and blonde) children in the US?"
I'm putting my money on this one.
Those kids couldn't be any more "perfect". (Time will tell on their mental condition.)
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Thu Aug-04-05 01:49 PM
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16. Somebody in the Senate, PLEASE ask why white kids were so important. |
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I think it's a relevant question. This guy gets a lifetime appointment to work for us. He'll be deciding all kinds of descrimination cases.
Why did the kids need to be white, Judge Roberts?
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Thu Aug-04-05 02:24 PM
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17. Many people adopt from overseas... |
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....because, among other reasons, there's far less chance of the biological parents trying to reclaim the child later. My niece just recently became pregnant on what was to be her last attempt at in vitro, but she had said all along that if in vitro was unsuccessful, they would adopt from overseas for just that reason. It just happens too often that as much at two or three years later, the biological parent or parents show up and the courts rule against the adoptive family. That's just a risk a lot of people who desperately want children are no longer willing to take, particularly when, in many cases, it's faster and easier to adopt overseas where there are often fewer people willing and/or able to raise these children.
Whatever their reasons for electing to adopt offshore, I think it's unconscionable to make that an issue. The cheapest of cheap shots, and entirely irrelevant to whether or not the man is qualified for the position to which he has been nominated.
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Thu Aug-04-05 02:37 PM
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the children look well cared for and happy. What reason is there to question this?
Haven't people fought for a long time to have adopted children be accepted without question, as their parents' children? If he had them naturally, no one would be challenging this. As adopted children they should have the same right not to be challenged.
Children of politicians should be off-limits, imo. I think we agreed about that when Rush Limbaugh attempted to go after Chelsea Clinton. I find it despicable to drag children, no matter what ethnicity they or their parents are, into political debates. I felt that way about John McCain, about the Clintons and about this.
Drudge is part of the propaganda arm of the rightwing. No doubt this story was planted to make liberals look bad. Paying any attention to anything he has to say, is walking into a trap, imo.
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Thu Aug-04-05 03:31 PM
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20. I think it is a legitimate question |
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And if your scenario is correct - then he should be upfront about it - and confront a serious problem with US adoption policies.
If, however, it is found that he refused to adopt children that were not white - then it goes directly to his moral character - and that is completley relevant given that he is being asked to preside over the highest court in the US.
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Thu Aug-04-05 02:28 PM
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18. My cousin adopted 2 kids and I think she had to wait a few years |
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and spend a few thousand bucks each time and that was about 25 years ago. I have no idea what adoption costs now
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