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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:49 PM
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Whats with all the neoliberalism?
Why suddenly all the threads about forcing people to take classes,
become registered and creating new government powers to invade the
home.

In the macrocosm, this same thinking leads to invading OTHER countries,
forcing people to become registered or in prison and creating new
government powers to invade and kill citizens.

It all smacks of meddling, big fat government meddling in private
lives until we are as bad as the GOP... legislating the way people
should live and increasing the power of government at the cost of
citizen choice, freedom and liberty.

Is that it, have the meddlers taken over democratic thinking as well?

hou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then
shalt thou see clearly...
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:54 PM
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1. the stuff in the Lounge?
I think you missed the fact that those were posted in the lounge. We tend to put up posts like that to poke fun at some of the uber-seriousness in GD.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:18 PM
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5. No, GD
I am not discussing the lounge.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:26 PM
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7. oh, nm.
Just to explain, on behalf of the Lounge, we also recognize when people take ridiculuous positions in GD. Then we copycat them to hell. And it is fun. The steam is blown off. :silly:
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dcfirefighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:55 PM
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2. I don't know either
but then I came to the DP b/c of the http://www.democraticfreedomcaucus.org/">Democratic Freedom Caucus which is pretty frikkin small.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 07:57 PM
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3. Are you against mandatory education laws?
I'm not sure what you're commenting on.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:15 PM
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4. Flavours of democrat
Skinner said this very eloquently in a post some months back, that
DU has (i think 3 basic communities)

Libertarian democrats
DLC democrats
and Left democrats

So these threads are an outbreak of the latter two sorts of democratic
thinking against the first sort. So the question is relevant to the
general political climate of discussion.

IMO, the democratic party can win back its following by standing up to
corporatism and neoliberalism. By realizing that the DLC republican
lite thinking has sold the farm, and that the only way to recover
integrity is to come out swinging for equality of all citizens, civil
rights of all citizens, privacy rights, and an empowered sense of
the legal integrity of the individual in civil society.

The democratic party lost the high ground back in the 70's with
busing. It put rich suburban kids on busses and shipped them to
deprived innner city schools, and started down a long road to having
no power in any house of government. And too often, people pull that
same meddling instinct out of the toolbox and say, "What about this
one?" And history shows us that it is a failed mechanism, this
meddling.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:31 PM
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6. neoliberalism is an economic philosophy
I suspect you're referring to something else. See wikipedia's article on neoliberalism.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 05:02 AM
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8. Yes indeed
I'm saying the two are related. That the presumption of free trade
and the colonial approaches that it conceals is the macrocosm for a
sort of internal colonialism, where corporate government colonizes
the lives of every individual, pushing in to their lives a system of
imposed totolitarianism that is merely the domestic reflection of
far away free trade.

free trading away our liberties is how it looks from here, and its
splitting hairs to say that its not tied to neoliberalism, DLC
corporatism and that general approach.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:48 PM
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9. it really is purely economic; the political counterpart is neoconservative
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:06 PM
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10. buying a dog, having a kid and buynig a gun are economic
activities. It is an economic thing, this snooping on people using
registry lists and their purchasing habits to impose examinations and
whatnot on them.

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