I AM NOT A CHILD OF GOD! I Wish People Would Stop Saying That.

[DistressedAmerican]

Little annoys me more as an atheist than folks that say , "We are all God's children." Most recently I heard Santorum claim that. He was trying to explain his book title, "It Takes A Family". He says that the family he is referring to is the church because all of us are God's Children

That expression is right up there with spending money that claims erroneously, "In God We Trust." Just a blatant lie that some Christians want to apply to me.

Not me buddy! I wish people would refrain from uttering such nonsense. Please stop including me in your belief system. I do not share it and would appreciated it people stopped acting like I do just because I am an American.

If we are all children of God, he has a really messed up family.

Besides, if we are all children of God, then I'm Bush's cousin. Clearly people who say that are wrong as I get none of the Bush family perks.

[kliljedahl]

1. Well, then you just have a "Blessed Day"

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[DistressedAmerican]

3. It Is A Good Thing We Are Friends Or I'd tell You To Go To Hell!

An equally bogus conception...

:evilgrin: Booga Booga! Gonna Git Ya!

[kliljedahl]

7. Ah, Jeebus, did I forget my sarcasm smiley?

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[nickinSTL]

16. arrrgh!

I HATE that!

I shouldn't be so annoyed...I mean, they could be referring to me being blessed by one of MY gods...but, really, I know they mean their Christian god...and it annoys the heck out of me!

Not to mention, I don't go around telling people things like, "May Eir bless you with good health", or "May Thor protect you", so why should I have to put up with them doing it?

[kliljedahl]

21. I feel the same way, that's why I did it.

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[ulysses]

2. don't be hatin'

We're all god's children, after all.

[sintax]

4. god bless the Pagans

I drink a toast to the ill-tempered paranoid big bearded guy in the sky. Poor guy knows it all so there is nothing left to learn. he is everywhere so there is nowhere left to go. but it must be a trip to be all powerful and keep everyone in fear of you huh?

[StayOutTheBushes]

5. Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem.

[DiverDave]

18. Pie Iesu domine Dona eis requiem

Pie Iesu domine Dona eis requiem Translation - Merciful Lord Jesus, grant them rest.

Or:

Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!

God I crack myself up...MP is the best.

[Geoff R. Casavant]

38. With big pointy teeth!

Look at the b-o-o-o-nes!

[StayOutTheBushes]

39. Oh, naughty naughty Zoot!

[name not needed]

22. *whack*

Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem

*whack*

Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem

*whack*

Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem

*whack*

[Kraklen]

6. Jesus loves you. He loves you a bunch.

'Cause he always puts Skippy in your lunch.

[NewWaveChick1981]

27. LMAO!!!

:rofl:

[lvx35]

8. We are all God's children! (except atheists, who are the product of...

billions of years of evolution through natural selection between various genotypes.)

Doesn't sound as good you know? ;)

[DistressedAmerican]

28. Damn Funny!

[Taxloss]

29. LOL!

[evolved Anarchopunk]

9. i'm sorry, dude, but i believe we're all god's children,

and that's not a nondenominational, or watered down, or agnostic (or whatever else you're adverse to) way of putting it.

Us, and animals, and trees, and anything that strives for life. I remember the phrase "Your children are not your children, remember that when you look in their eyes. They are the proof of life's longing for itself."

There's nothing we can prove, and nothing makes sense, i know. I'm surprised by how few questions have driven me close to insanity in my life. It is the sign of a thinker, a philosopher, and a tired soul (I like that in you, hell Distressed, i like you in general). But please, amidst all of this, do not condemn people for realizing the obvious: we are all connected. Oneness is wonderful, i know it's hard to imagine that when looking at a Repuke, i wouldn't want it to be true either if it wasn't so plainly beautiful in the end.

Hope you get over this hatred, don't let it hold you down.

[lvx35]

13. I agree, the term is loose. (But screw santorum)

I like the mystical concepts of God, as the single thing behind everything, and to use the term recognizes are oneness with that thing. I disagree with atheists over their unwillingness to refer to the universe as a living thing like humans, even though they claim we came from the universe.

[Lefta Dissenter]

19. realizing the obvious?

What's so obvious? Yes, we are all connected. We are connected because we all have a responsibility to this earth we share. We have a responsibility to treat our fellow-man with love and respect, and not to bomb the shit out of him. That has nothing to do with religion or god.

And you know what else? My children ARE my children. I see myself and their father when I look in their eyes. And I see their own young lives, filled with promise and hope - though in the case of my twenty-one year old daughter, often filled with confusion and frustration. And I see that she is walking the same path that I did 25 years ago - walking in virtually the same footsteps.

I usually stay out of the discussions of religion. I am an atheist, and have a couple of Christian siblings, and I respect their beliefs and your beliefs. But I am not a product of someone's ideas that I consider to be fantasy - I am a product of my genetics, my family's love, and my life's experiences.

[Deep13]

23. You have GOT to be kidding!

The phrase "we are all God's children" is an affirmation for the Christian religion. Saying it to a nonbeliever presumptuous and a little bigotted. Sort of like telling Jews that they live in a Christian country. The phrase may sound warm and fuzzy, but what it says is that you ought to believe in my God and that we are merely children beholding to someone else's invisible friend. I think it's insulting as hell.

As a nonchristian, I don't need to pretend that anger is always bad. It is not holding me down in any way.

[evolved Anarchopunk]

25. im not christian. dont insult me or yourself by insinuating that.

my religion has no name. If it was a word, it would be Love. If it was a number, it would be 1. I repeat, im not a christian, i opened my eyes long before my friends and i take pride in that. My religion is my own, but i can't believe in nothing because I am something. Some of this came from smoking pot, sort of like Mark Perkel's new church, The Church of Reality, which is a great parody if it can be called such.

I also don't impress this upon other people, meaning TWO things: 1) i not evangelical (that word still gives me chills) and 2) i'm not disrespectful to other peoples beliefs.

When i posted here i had nothing in mind. not christianity, not Santorum, nothing except caring for a fellow human being: DistressedAmerican. Your attack on me is childish, and i'll be honest very hurtful, i wish you were kidding.

[DistressedAmerican]

31. Huh? What Attack? What Are You Talking About?

Please clarify how I attacked you.

I do not know where this is coming from. In fact I just finished a reply to you that I thougt was quite nice and respectful.

I am SERIOUSLY confused by your claim that I have attacked you.

Are you confused or am I?

[evolved Anarchopunk]

32. hey whats up man, that was a reply to someone else! Deep13 or something

just look at the thread. No i liked your post ! :7

[DistressedAmerican]

33. OK, I Misread The Period After My Name As A Comma.

Sorry. I thought it was really odd. My confusion.

:toast:

[evolved Anarchopunk]

34. O i see what part you misread.

I should have phrased that last paragraph better. My english prof would be on my ass. You just saw your name and read from there, read the sentence before it. Peace !

[DistressedAmerican]

36. I Did Read The Whole Post. It Was My Dyslexia That Is To Blame.

I usually deal with it pretty well. But, I am a bit tired and dragged out. Was up sick all night.

When I get tired, it effects me a lot more than normal.

Thanks for uinderstanding. I am impaired. But, I function OK in society (generally)!

[Modem Butterfly]

46. ROFLMAO!

Sorry, but your religion makes me laugh.

:rofl:

[lynne]

59. An affirmation for the Christian religion?

Where do you find that in "all God's children"? In no way does that statement make any reference to a particular God. Could be my God. Might be a pagan God. Guess it depends on who is doing the talking.

Jew's shouldn't mind, BTW. They have the same God as Christians. It's the Jesus business where they part company.

If you're insulted when someone refers to God around you, then wear a hat that say's I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD or grow a thicker skin.

[DistressedAmerican]

30. HAtred Is A Bit Strong. I Do Hate Fundies and The Religious Right.

Mostly others just mildly annoy me with these platitiudes.

They hear and say them so often they forget that not all of share their core judeo-christian belief system.

I know few if any MEAN offense. But, hopefully after reading this thread some, will realize that such Christian phrases are a bit insulting to non-believers.

Hell, I like you most of the time too. You have never shoved god down my throat, even unintentionally.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. I am! Now, about that child support........you're 61 years behind..

pro-rating, mmmmhh, I'll settle for Paris as partial payment.

[Tux]

11. LOL

Why would it bother you? People have worldviews that is different from yours. I don't like being told I'm Deity's kid by Christians and that I am stupid for believing in Deity by atheists yet I never throw a temper tandrum over it. That is how they view the world. Big deal.

Have a blessed day.

[toddaa]

12. Reminds me of the Clint Eastwood movie High Plains Drifter

If you've seen it, you remember Clint's Man with No Name confrontation with the town preacher after he blows up the hotel.

[Raksha]

14. That isn't a fundie thing per se.

Liberals say it too, if they believe in God. It's a way of recognizing the brotherhood/sisterhood of all humanity. I've never known anyone to be offended by it before.

On second thought, the fundies act as though God has legitimate children (them) and illegitimate children (everybody else). I guess that's what makes it so offensive when they claim we are all God's children. It's always implied even when they don't say so.

[DistressedAmerican]

20. Did You Ever As An Atheist Before? Such Nonsense Surrounds Us Everyday.

It is irritating. Now more than ever.

People shoving God into our laws and lives is getting pretty damn tired...

[Raksha]

24. This is the first time I've heard it even from an atheist.

I'm a pantheist myself. Strictly speaking I don't believe God is a "person." But I think it's okay to personify God in order to help get our minds around the concept, PROVIDED we don't forget we're doing it.

[DanCa]

15. I hate soldier of christ

I am a christian and my jesus believed in peace not war imo.

[BuyingThyme]

17. My parents don't take revenge on innocent men, women, and children.

The Christian God is an insane murderer.

Count me out.

[Redleg]

26. You must be the adopted child of God.

LOL

[kenny blankenship]

40. the redheaded stepchild of God

[Pithlet]

51. ......

:spray:

[Modem Butterfly]

35. The ULTIMATE absentee father...

I live in the Bible belt. In order not to go ape shit 24/7 I have to just kind of ignore most of this crap.

[DistressedAmerican]

37. I Grew Up In Wheaton Illinois, Home Of the Billy Grahm Center, Wheaton

Bible college, and more churches per capita than any other city in the country. It is northern but, way fundie. Locals call Wheaton the Midwest Bible Belt.

I think that is exactly why it annoys me more than most. I have had this crap shoved down my throat for decades.

I once had a fundie in a philosophy class insist that I really DID believe in God. That I just refused to admit it. Her reasoning? "Everybody believes in God!"

Nice freaking logic. In a college level philosophy class no less...

[Mr_Spock]

41. God is the Good that holds us all together.

That's what I think and it doesn't require me to get all frustrated by other people's views of God. Works for me anyway :D

[DistressedAmerican]

42. As A Believer In God, Why Would You?

There is nothing offensive about having God shoved down your throat all the time if you believe in such a thing.

[Mr_Spock]

44. Nobody shoves anything down my throat - bumper sticker people are morons

but I do believe that there is a common thread of Good that keeps mankind from destroying itself. God is just a concatenation of Good - at least to me anyway.

Of course those people are morons, but there are more important battles for me to fight that affects the lives of myself and my children.

[More Than A Feeling]

43. Have you told the people who say that how you feel?

I mean, in your life, not your post. If they respect you, perhaps they will not say that where you might hear it.

On the other hand, I doubt people will stop saying it altogether anytime soon. First amendment, and all that.

[DistressedAmerican]

48. My Friends And Family Are All Pretty Much Either Atheists Or Never Discuss

it with me.

Nobody I have prolonged exposure to wouyld likely say much of anything about God to me beyond the passing philosophical discussion.

I never really get the "Have a blessed day!" except when I go outside of my immediate circle.

You know. OUT THERE!

They walk among us. Those that just can't keep it to themselves. Most are trying to be nice. I grin and deal. But as a general thing I find it annoying.

[More Than A Feeling]

60. *nods* Truly, it is ironic that they are trying to find a connection

without seeing the reality that what they are doing is actually disconnecting them from you.

[Zorra]

45. Particularly offensive is the idea of being a child of the republican god.

Like this spawn of satan:

[DistressedAmerican]

47. As I Understand It There Is Still Some Debate On Which Party God

Belongs to.

Much like the civil war. Both sides claimed God was on their side. I guess the South must have been mistaken.

[Swamp Rat]

49. Oh, GOD is a republickan and don't you forget it... heathen!

And since HE created pedophile animal fuckers like Sodomite Santorum, I have asked my goddess to smite them all!

[DistressedAmerican]

52. Where Did He Stand On The Civil War? Or The Super Bowl For That Matter?

[Swamp Rat]

53. Notice how close together are his beady little eyes?

:puke:

[DistressedAmerican]

55. Its The God Complex! It Shrinks Your Head And As It Collapses

The eyes come together in the middle. If he does not go down soon it will actually implode taking much of Washington with it. Giant fucking Blackhole of hubris!

We can dream can't we?

[Swamp Rat]

56. Or, we can learn to shrink heads the African way!

:D

Or play Aztec basketball! :woohoo:

In anticipation of a coming 'nukular' armageddon, I think I'll go get some lessons from the Warí, como tirar o pele e comer! :9

[Fescue4u]

50. God bless you

for saying that

[Sabriel]

54. I sure hope I am!

When He goes, I'm gonna be rich, rich, rich!

[Prism]

57. I don't see the problem

It seems like a fairly harmless sentiment. It means we're all human beings and we're all entitled to a certain measure of respect because of the inherent dignity in what we are.

Not to get into an argument, but I don't understand why this stuff riles people up. I'm not a Christian. I'm Deist/agnostic/questioning, etc. I was raised strict Catholic and am still surrounded by people who adhere to that belief system. As a gay man, I hear all sorts of religious sentiments that I definitely don't agree with. Heck, my mom thinks I'm living in sin and constantly endangering my immortal soul.

And yet, why take personal offense? Especially when it's generally not meant in an offensive way. It seems like picking a fight to me. A worthless fight at that, because it's not like anyone's going to suddenly go "Oh! You're offended! I'll never mention religion again!"

I'm secure in my own faith/belief system. No politician or family member is going to change that. They have their beliefs, I have mine. We all have the specific constitutional right to speak freely about them, politicians included.

I am a vehement proponent of separation of church and state.

But I find the sentiment that people need to shut up about their religion is absurd. As absurd as saying people shouldn't criticize the government, as absurd as saying we shouldn't argue being secure in our persons and our property.

Religious expression is one of our core constitutional freedoms.

I say express away. Politician, non-politician, whoever. People died to give us this right.

I find people not taking advantage of their rights, or those who think we shouldn't take advantage of them so strongly, to be far more offensive.

JMHO.

[datasuspect]

58. god hates you for your freedoms