Tony Blair on CSPAN

[dsc]

I am still a bit in shock. Blair vetting Imans? Has Britain lost its mind? Hearing this press conference is downright scary. Blair finds it worrysome if someone in Britain hasn't learned English after being there for 20 years. If this is what Liberals are doing in Britain one wonders what the Conservatives are doing.

[Greeby]

1. Scuse me

Blair hasn't been liberal since I were a lad

[autorank]

2. bLiar is just pathetic.

He is a failure. I must say that the British people really blew it. They could have thrown him out. Since their exit polls matched their election, it's pretty clear the elections were fair. So WTF jolly old England. We can't even get our votes counted here (which is our fault) but we did not re elect *. It was stolen. Of course, for a country that finds it acceptable to occupy Ireland still, to this day, what can you expect.

[Greeby]

3. Say what

Read up on the Parliamentary system and understand that most of us didn't get to vote on Blair.

Anyway, don't blame me, I voted Lib Dem, after the candidate had made clear he opposed the invasion of Iran (I'd sent a link to Seymour Hersh's The Coming Wars) he didn't win, and we're still stuck with a non-descript Labour MP :(

[autorank]

4. I think everybody in the middle or left should have voted for Kennedy.

I understand that you don't vote directly for PM and I enjoy the PM question time whenever it's on. At the same time, I just about puked during the campaign reading Labour toadies saying, 'well bLiar is not nearly as bad as the Torries' and justifying that as a criterion for voting for Labour. I don't recall the Conservatives invading Iraq lately and certainly the Liberals would have been a more than acceptable alternative (they do have the best paper don't they, The Independent). The fact that they were not given sufficient support to oust bLiar is just amazing.

Of course, we sit on our asses and let the Republicans steal election after election despite obvious and pervasive evidence of fraud. In fact, "progressive" sites like KOS even mock the serious inquiry into election fraud. WE need a true populist candidate who will just crush wimps in our party, bypass them, and who will break off this idiotic pseudo alliance with Labour (another Clinton embarrassment, btw, going over there and endorsing bLiar, what a fool Bill is).

[muriel_volestrangler]

5. Kennedy, the Lib Dem leader, has said he's not happy with the proposals

Kennedy concern at terror plans

The government should not let the public mood dictate legislation in the wake of the 7 July London bombings, Lib Dem leader Charles Kennedy has warned.

He criticised Tony Blair's plans to extend powers to deport or bar from the UK foreigners who encourage terrorism.

Mr Kennedy said the Lib Dems may not support the legislation, which could threaten the cross-party consensus which has been in place since 7 July.
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Conservative leader Michael Howard said his party has been calling for the measures for years and, in principle, backed them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4126358.stm

There was a revealing interview on BBC radio this morning. After Kennedy has said the above things, they had Micheal Howard and Lord Falconer (Labour Lord Chancellor, a professional lawyer and friend of Blair, brought in to the government, and in charge of the judicial system) on at the same time. Asked about how the laws would be worded, Falconer replied "well, we know the people we're after ...". Even Howard, a Tory who was an authoritarian Home Secretary (in charge of the police, prisons and immigration), was a little shocked at that, and had to point out to Falconer that you weren't meant to make laws against specific people, but against things that people do.

Blair and his cronies are getting carried away. A Birmingham imam compared him publicly to Hitler; but I'd say he hasn't gone that far for now. But a comparison to General Franco seems valid - both convinced they're right, that God was on their side, and that they have the right to order the country any way they want - and friendly to bigger powers who were even more dangerous.

[T_i_B]

6. Labour hasn't been Liberal for a while now.

And the Tories seem broadly supportive of these proposals, the Liberal Democrats seem to be a bit apprehensive about them, and when Parliament comes back after the summer holidays we should hopefully know a bit more about these proposals.