Interesting tidbit from Time Magazine re: John Robert's children's

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

adoption:

"Jack McCay, law partner of Roberts’ wife Jane and a friend, speaks of the couple’s adoption of John (Jack) and Josephine, born in Ireland 4 1/2 months apart. “As frequently happens when you go through the adoption process, some of the efforts weren’t successful, and it continued for a time … But when the opportunity came along to have not just one but two kids, they took both babies without blinking.”

http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,1086120,00.html

According to the reports from the corporate media at the time of the announcement weren't these children supposed to be adopted from South America and they were at least two apart in age?

Just wonderin....

edited to fix link

[Island Blue]

1. Your link doesn't seem to be working

I thought I'd heard that they were further apart in age than 4 1/2 months. (I thought it was something like 2 years.) I do love that Dancin' Jack!

[Island Blue]

2. Upon further review

I checked out the Wikipedia entry for Judge Roberts, and according to that, the children are 5 and 2 and were adopted from Latin America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Roberts_Jr.


Hmmmmm. Strange.

[SoCalDem]

3. Here's the question.. Why would the friend be told

they were from ireland?

[nosmokes]

4. and why should we care about his kids or the adoption?

is no one entitled to a private life? sheesh.

[TheDebbieDee]

7. Bill Clinton should have been entitled to a private life........

and he was crucified by hypocrites for trying to have one.

[nosmokes]

10. i agree completely!

but because the GOPosse went on a witch hunt against bill clinton doesn't mean that anyone should have the right to go digging around in the adoption records of little children. where the hell is the decency in that? we bitch here all the time about what rove did to mcain about his adopted child. i'm sorry, but the kids are off fucking limits. john roberts is the one that'll be sitting on the bench, not his pre-schoolage kids.

[Alcibiades]

12. Look at the picture on post #11

Roberts is clearly willing to use his wife and kids in order to attempt to paint a picture-perfect illusion of himself to advance his career. Anybody you ever know take their wife and kids to a job interview? The man's not running for office, here: he's just brought his family along for window dressing.

No, the kids don't deserve it. The kids should be at home with the nanny!

Besides, if a man is going to decide on the reproductive freedoms of American women, I'm sorry, but yes, his own reproductive choices (and the fact that he has so many, compared to the poor of this country) do have some bearing on the question.

[TheDebbieDee]

13. Well, I think we Democrats need to get off the high road.......

Being intelligent and classy is causing us to get our clocks cleaned by the loud-mouthed, boorish right-wing pundits, like hannity and o'lielly.

Remember, Jon Stewart was aggressive and rude to Tucker Carlson on a visit to Crossfire last fall - but he got all his points across in big way!

It's long past time to stop being polite to these bastards! Turnabout is fair play!

[ovidsen]

5. The link worked for me

I find this report quite confusing. Everything else I have read about the Roberts' adopted children says they are from Latin America.

Could this family friend, or TIME magazine have mispoken?

[bananas]

8. There's no by-line

I was going to say "email the author of the article",
but there's no name listed, and the link for other articles
by the author has a blank entry.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

6. Well according to the State Department in order to adopt

an Irish born child, you have to be a permanent resident of Ireland.

Somehow, I don't think Judge Roberts and his wife quite qualify for that requirement.

http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/population/children/adoptions/Ireland.html

[Straight Shooter]

9. Those kids sure don't look to be 4 1/2 months apart, to me.

Why is the press bothering with this, unless there's something untoward that went on behind the scenes? Could it be that Roberts took a rich man's shortcut?

[kskiska]

11. They look roughly the same age to me

[Divernan]

14. Cute kids - sure look Irish, not Latino, though.

The fact of adopting their kids is significant to me because I have found that people who are unable to get pregnant can be EXTREMELY judgmental and resentful of - even outraged at women who choose to end pregnancies.

Also, I wonder how these kids are being raised - the little boy is bopping around at an extremely serious public moment, while his Mother stands demurely with downcast eyes and is not even attempting to restrain the kid. Meanwhile, the daughter is hanging on to Mom for dear life and looking very shy. Oh well, maybe all those stereotypical beliefs about the difference between the sexes is true? Or is that how conservatives raise their kids?

[kskiska]

15. Maybe if she hadn't waited till she was in her 40s

to get married, she could have had kids. Odd that her husband waited so long. Or maybe he realized he needed a wife and kids to complete his resume, considering his ambitions.

[txindy]

16. A major shortcut

Especially if these kids are from Ireland. Roberts and his wife don't meet the legal requirements to adopt from Ireland. If they took a shortcut, that makes it an international matter.

This isn't about the kids, it's about possible illegal activities in their parents' past. Illegal activities by a SC nominee, no less. If true, this is a lot worse than paying a 'nanny' off-the-books. Family values and all that. :eyes: Yeah, right.

[SoCalDem]

17. Yep.. Buying and selling humans is never a 'good thing"

BUT for a price.. a rich couple can always get a child..There are many poor young women all over the world, who would happily be inseminated, carry a child (or 2) and hand them over ..for a PRICE..

You can call it adoption, but it's really child-selling..

Imagine that you are a blonde, fair-skinned poor latin american woman, and a rich gringo offers you ...say...1 million dollars to provide him with 2 kids.. He provides the doctor, the hospital, and maybe moves you to a different location where your family/friends think you are "going to school".. A couple of years pass (and maybe school IS included),. you return to your family, apparently unchnaged, except for the fact that you have a bank account with enough money to last a good long time in a poor country..

Instead of a lifetime of menial work, she now has the opportunity to open her own business, or finish college

[txindy]

18. True, but this case is ... odd

This isn't a third world country in question here, it's Ireland. At least, this 'friend' in the article thinks it's Ireland. Previous stories have said South America. :shrug: Anyway, the major difference there is that it would be ILLEGAL for Roberts and his wife to adopt from Ireland unless one of them was a permanent, legal resident of that country. So says Irish law, anyway.

There's something very odd here.

Adding: Just to clarify, I meant that Ireland has virtually no unemployment and one of the most robust economies in the world. Not to mention a stringent legal system. I should imagine that all of this would make it very difficult to 'buy' a child from that country, let alone two.

[SoCalDem]

19. Perhaps the friend was 'told" they were from Ireland...

If my neighbor/friend told me something like that i would have no reason to doubt her.. All the recent articles have said latin America, and I have seen no feverish requests to retract..

[txindy]

20. I know, that's what's so bizarre about it all

Time magazine reported this story, so surely they know the background of previous stories. (Or am I being naive? ;) ) Why didn't they point out the disparity of stories being told and why do those disparities exist in the first place? That in and of itself is a story. Surely this isn't another fact that Roberts just 'forgot'. He does seem to have a memory like a sieve when it comes to certain situations. A very convenient sieve.

It's all very suspicious.

[oneighty]

21. Rich man's short cut

indeed.

This smells of "Look at me how I love children so much. Children as political tools.

And I know people that adopt or otherwise nurture children because the children need help.

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