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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:15 AM
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Can we get the house and Senate back in 2006?
If so, how?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:22 AM
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1. House, yes. Senate, unlikely.
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 11:22 AM by onehandle
Volunteer. Send cash directly to candidates that have a chance.

Make the party support a hundred reps instead of the couple of dozen candidates in "vulnerable" districts.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:23 AM
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3. How is the house doable but the Senate unlikely?
We need to take Santorum out that's for sure.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:25 AM
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4. Santorum is likely toast.
The numbers are less in our favor in the Senate.

But it is possible.

Again, Volunteer. Send cash directly to Senate candidates that have a chance.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:26 AM
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6. We could get Hackett to run against DeWine.
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:31 AM
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9. Because many
Of the Senators up for re-election are guys like Orrin Hatch and Trent Lott who are pretty much unbeatable. Based on who's announced I'd say there are 4 seats we can pickup. If we can get the right candidates and everything goes right I'd bump that number up to 8
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:32 AM
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10. Which ones?
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 11:32 AM by coloradodem2005
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safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:34 AM
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11. Based on who's
Announced I'd say we can pick up seats in Pennsylvania obviously, Rhode Island, Montana, Tennessee, and maybe Arizona. If we can pick up a good candidate these states can be winnable: Missouri, Ohio, and Virginia.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:23 AM
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2. Yes we can
but only if we start acting like Dems again.

We need to become the progressive party. We need a business reform, voting reform, employment, health, and education based platform to re create the American middle class.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:25 AM
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5. Yep. nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:27 AM
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7. Also, keep writing the media to keep on Rove's ass.
This crime will get us a Lot of mileage.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:28 AM
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8. What else will give us mileage.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:23 PM
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12. IRAQ,IRAQ,IRAQ,IRAQ...
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 12:24 PM by givemebackmycountry
Look, America is getting sick of this endless, bloody monkey ass enterprise.
I don't want to see a single one of our troops suffer even a paper cut.
But, that ain't going to happen.
Sadly, more will be slaughtered for Halliburton and Exxon-Mobil profits.

I really think that this country is on the verge of such utter anger and disillusionment with this murderous administration, we could see them ALL get thrown out.

Hackett and Ohio showed us something.

Call the son-of-a-bitch a son-of-a-bitch.
Scream about the profit making on war.

And if indictments are handed down and some of these people start going to jail, it may be ON.

But, then again, what do I know.

(edit-spelling)
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:26 PM
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13. Hackett is a true American hero.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:32 PM
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16. But if the Dem candidates don't run as being against the war, and for its
end, then how will they distinguish themselves from the Repub candidate to win?
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:39 PM
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20. we can be against the war,and still pro- veteran/soldier
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:37 PM
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18. We need to mobilize vets-
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 01:37 PM by w8liftinglady
and stress better treatment for wounded veterans.There is a HUGE base of veterans out there.My dad recently switched from lifelong repub to democrat because of this (and he strongly dislikes *)
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:49 PM
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14. of course

Basically, Republicans maxed out in '02 and '04. They have, for practical purposes, all the seats that can be gotten for them out of the South and Midwest. In the process they've become utterly identified with the interests that constitute majority opinion/power in these districts and states.

This means that they've become exclusive and they can't/don't actually represent the interests competing with those in the country. This amounts to de facto political overextension in the Northeast, Great Lakes, Upper Midwest, West, and Florida south of Orlando.

Basically, the '06 elections look, overall, like one further intensification of the Red/Blue map to me, with the '08 elections perhaps another. Unlike '02 and '04, it will be the Blue becoming more intense and squelching out Red in its regions and pushing it out in swing states.

We're starting to see Republican Congresscritters fading out everywhere in the Northeast. Chaffee, Jeffords, and Santorum are gone for practical purposes; it's not clear whether Olympia Snowe is going to run for reelection and the substantive Maine rationales for electing Republicans- funding of Bath Iron Works and the residual military bases- are obsolete. When Specter resigns- and he's sick enough that it's not far off- Rendell is going to appoint Barbara Hafer or Joe Hoeffel to his seat; Rendell has supposedly rejected Specter's attempts to deal for a Republican appointee. It's quite possible that Susan Collins and the New Hampshire duo will be the last Republican Senators at home north of the Potomac in '07.

House district gerrymanders for Republicans and Republican incumbents are looking pretty shaky in the Northeast, too- all three in Connecticut are looking dicey, 2-3 New York ones are in trouble, between 6 and 10 Pennsylvanian ones around Philly and Pittsburgh are looking close enough for some really serious Democratic efforts. New Jersey is being rather recalcitrant relative to its neighbors, but there are at least two or three districts that are Democratic but held by pretty objectionable Republicans.

The pattern/trend/effect of Republican softening is showing up everywhere else in the Blue States and swing states in smaller ways so far, but there are definite indications. There are all the recruiting failures that the RNC is having in states where Republicans have good chances- no one to challenge Bingaman, Kohl, Stabenow, Cantwell, Dorgan, or give Hillary Clinton or Diane Feinstein or Joe Lieberman anything of a run. Mark Pryor and the two Nelsons aren't facing first tier competition, and second raters they can beat. Shelly Capito isn't coming out against Bob Byrd, just hoping to get him to retire. Rove is focussing on fighting back for likely Democratic Senate gains in open seats in Maryland and Minnesota- he has great opportunities, but the odds of his efforts having enough staying power in those electorates, no matter how hard he shakes them up for latent conservatism, aren't actually good in either one. Democrats are in turn quietly closing in on the weakening incumbent Republican Senators in Nevada, Ohio, Montana, Arizona, and Missouri.

As for the House, the picture is that gerrymanderings everywhere outside the South and Southern Plains are not looking durable for Republicans. There are 2-3 vulnerable Californian ones, Reichardt in Washington State, the two Twin Cities suburbia ones, the Green Bay one, one or two in Chicago suburbia, one or two in Iowa, two or three in Indiana, half a dozen in Ohio, three or four in southern Florida, one or two in northern Virginia. The handful of swing districts created in '02 in the Southwest but all won by Republicans then are all looking vulnerable. These developments track parallel with the local Republican state parties going into nosedives.

There is a bunch of stuff going on in the South proper, i.e. Georgia and Tennessee. I don't really bother with them- though they are necessarily important to people in the region- because I don't see signs of Republican power being truly broken there in '06 as elsewhere. I see them hanging in there regionally. The big year for Democrats there would seem to be '08.
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aaronnyc Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:57 PM
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21. The Red-Blue map hurts us in the Senate
I agree with your analysis that '06 is likely to be a further solidify the Red and Blue divide. However, it is precisely because of that reason that I don't think the Democrats have a realistic chance of taking back the Senate - Bush won 31 states, while Kerry won just 19. Smaller states tend to be Conservative, thus, the Republicans have a natural advantage in the senate system (where small states like Wyoming and Utah get equal representation with large states like New York and California.)

2006 looks particularly precarious for the Dems in the Senate, as there are more Democratic seats up for grabs than there are Republican ones. I really don't see anyway that the Democrats could take back the Senate in '06. Even if the Dems were able to hold ALL of their seats (which is very unlikely)there are still too many popular Republicans running in "Red" states for us to win enough seats to take back control of the Senate. We would need to win states like Missouri, Montana, Nevada, and Arizona - and I don't realistically think we have a shot at them.

Hope I'm wrong - but I'd be really surprised if the Senate swings more than a couple of seats in either direction in 2006.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:50 PM
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15. Not with this as a reality!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:37 PM
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17. We can if we become militant about how we do elections.
If it requires protests of the type that were done in the 1960's for the Civil Rights movement, then we must do it and we must start doing it NOW.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 01:38 PM
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19. If we get rid of evoting, yes. If not, no. n/t
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:09 PM
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22. between Diebold and assassinations (e.g. Leahy), I doubt it
I guess I have a little hope, but not much
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