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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:06 PM
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Look, if we want decent media we have to support decent media
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 04:24 PM by HEyHEY
So, here list newspapers/radio stations you consider to be trustworthy. Even if it's just your hometown paper.

For me I'd say

The Province (Very good range of columnists) I'd say the Vancouver Sun too, but they are basically the same paper.
The Globe and Mail - Highly recommend, it's Canada's national paper and I've been liking it more and more lately. Great international coverage.
The Canadian Broadcasting corporation
The New York Times
THe BBC

You?
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:11 PM
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1. Commondreams.org Has A Lot Of Good Progressive Stuff
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:14 PM
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2. Mainstream?
The SF Chronicle and the LA Times. They were pretty reliable until recently, they have been becoming increasingly conservative. Now I sort of get my news from DU.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:20 PM
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3. Yeah, MS, easily accesible
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:20 PM
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4. NYT and WaPo have their moments, b ut they can be as big whores
as any of the othr MSM outlets. BBC is good, as is Free Speech TV and Link TV; occasionally, Keith on MSNBC has some actual news.

I agree, we MUST take responsibility - we are just as much to blame as the media if we don't call them out on each and every instanceof bias, Reich-wing whoredom, and just plain NOT NEWS!

Every time a station MENTIONS Michael Jackson (unless it's E!, MTV or VH1) they should be called IMMEDIATELY and told to shut up and INFORM us about what the unelected administration is up to now. Every time they trot out a story about Natalee Holloway, they should be called IMMEDIATELY and be forced to explain how that qualifies as NEWS.
Every time a news hour goes by without someone presenting FACTS and TRUTH about what is happening in our government, we should be calling and demanding accountability.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:21 PM
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5. Exactly, I am a believer in you get the media you deserve
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 04:22 PM by HEyHEY
Try the Globe and mail gran, you'll love it.

www.theglobeandmail.com
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:49 PM
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10. Thanks for the tip, will do!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:24 PM
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6. for TV news,I have to say MSNBC.
This is the only place I have seen the issues really explored.I love Ron Reagan on Connected Coast to Coast,and Countdown with Keith Oberman is excellent.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:27 PM
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7. Harper's magazine, and it's not that expensive
This month's issue contains an article about how the right wing has distorted Jesus' teachings and an article that details the voting problems in Ohio.

I also like the American Prospect, which is kind of like a paper-based DU for big kids. Each issue has a theme, and experts weigh in from various angles.

For those who bewail the lack of cultural programming on TV, try Ovation and Trio, two digital cable channels. Ovation is the more high-brow, although it has a lot of programs on jazz and pop, as well as features about artists and writers. Trio is more edgy, showing off-beat movies, off-beat old TV shows, off-beat documentaries (they had a whole evening of docs about Texas once), and other, unclassifiable stuff.

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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:40 PM
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8. I find the SF Chronicle reliable....
as well as the Toronto Star, La Presse from Montreal, Le Monde, CBC/SRC, BBC, the Guardian, The Nation, Utne Reader, American Prospect

I'll have to check out the Globe and Mail
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:43 PM
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9. IMHO, The San Jose Mercury News is the best around.
Peace.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:55 PM
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11. The "Liberal" NY Times is a myth. They are not "decent" media.
It was their Judith Miller that helped this sociopathic administration lie us into war. They very rarely cover anything lately of importance unless the Washington Post deems its newsworthy. I can go on and on but my fingers will crash on me....
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:07 PM
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16. See, this is what gets me
Just cause a paper has a conservative writer doesn't mean they are part of some conspiracy.

I buy the times up here and often see stories that are fair and damaging to the powers that be. So I no longer buy this crap about the times being part of some conspiracy.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:32 PM
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17. I didn't only talk about Judith Miller. I mentioned that they are Not
reporting the news. It tooks over a month for them to write about the DSM. Think about it. Why????
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:01 PM
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18. One story man, that's it
The other day they had front page the story about prosecutors tweaking cases against gitmo detainees.
I'll tell you why they were a month behind on DSM, because they questioned the credibility at first. They still reported on it. It took them a bit. ANd did you notice it didn't seem to have that big of an effect anyway? Perhaps the DSM story is not as much as a blockbuster as thought by many here.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:57 PM
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12. The Daily Show
Considering they're honestly fake, that says a lot about my opinion of the media.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:58 PM
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13. The Guardian...
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 05:03 PM by Spider Jerusalem
Globe and Mail
The Independent (UK)
South China Morning Post
Harper's
Atlantic Monthly
The Economist (most of the time; they can have a bit of a pro-corporate, right-wing bias on occasion, but they're still far ahead of any US newsmagazine)

and, the only trustworthy broadcast media source I can access regularly: The BBC (BBC World News on BBC America, BBC News 24 online, World Service news radio, etc)

And I don't so much consider the NYT to be "decent media". They've had quite a few scandals over improper and outright false reporting of late, and any newspaper that's proud to publish the delusional drivel of Thomas Friedman on its editorial page is hardly "trustworthy", as far as I'm concerned.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:07 PM
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14. No, none of those. I vote for blogs, and no corporate media crap.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:06 PM
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15. BLogs are shit
I don't care how many people pretend they aren't. Bloggers don't have the kind of inside connections and journalistic ability real journalists do. Most blogs I've seen are nothing more than a bunch of compiled editorials with hardly any proof to back up their accusations.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:06 PM
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19. the effect of the inside`connection is making them propaganda mouthpieces
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