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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:15 PM
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"One of my hardest parts of my job is to console the family members"
One of my hardest parts of my job is to console the family members who have lost their life. It is a -- it is -- it's a chance to hug and weep and to console and to remind the loved ones that the sacrifice of their loved one was done in the name of security for America and freedom for the world." - George W. Bush April 13, 2004

Guess he can't do his job, he's on vacation. Can't console nobody when you're on vacation can you, asshole?
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:18 PM
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1. Your comment is right
ASSHOLE - in the name of security for America and freedom for the world. ASSHOLE! They shouldn't have been there in the first place.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:20 PM
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2. He is right, that is one of the hardest parts because he can't do it.
If my child were killed, he could never console me. If he hugged me, or gave me his freedom/sacrifice bs, he'd certainly be weeping next.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:24 PM
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3. He is weeping for himself now the selfish jerk, they died for his lies
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 07:25 PM by GetTheRightVote
I wish he were on the front line with all of his lies to protect him as it does them, our children who are dying for his oil greed.

:kick:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:25 PM
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4. "freedom for the world"
now that's some frightening language.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:28 PM
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5. Just exactly what consoling
has he done??????
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:28 PM
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6. "Console the family members who have lost their life..."
Hey, buddy...sorry you're dead!

Pretty obvious it's an utter lie, and he doesn't believe a word of it. His verbal fuckups are most obvious whenever he's talking about something he doesn't care about.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:29 PM
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7. Where was he during all the Memorial services I've attended?
Where was he while I was holding the hands of women crying bitter tears of things not said while waiting to hear if it was their husband dead in a recent attack?



Where was he while I waited all night long for the call that finally told me it wasn't my husband dead in the ammo blast that killed one in his company and ripped the scalp completely off another soldier?

While I called to reassure other spouses, holding back my own fears, where was Bush?

Where was he when I held my best friend while she rocked back and forth, keening - because her husband's platoon was attacked in Hillah...we knew some had died but no one was telling us anything. So we waited. Helpless.

Where was Bush?

He was probably off telling more lies.










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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:31 PM
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8. "The easiest part was sending them out to die for me
in their efforts to protect Halliburton's stock prices."

:eyes:
rocknation
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Liberal Ohioan Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:37 PM
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9. Be careful
My father and 2 older brothers are in iraq. They believe in freedom and the execution of sadddam. They do not ike GWB, but they hate the extremists, who die in order to kill them and civilians. I love them very much and support them whole heartedly, but I am getting a lot of flack from this website for that position. Lie, lie, or lie, my most loved people (exempting my wife and mom) are over there and those of you who call for their deaths or degradations on their return are mad.

Regards,
Buddy Smith
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:44 PM
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12. Buddy, this is all about how the blivet lies. I'm sure
no one wishes any ill will towards your family members. My thoughts are with you and yours.:hug:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:47 PM
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13. Not sure how you twisted the OPs words into calling for the deaths of
our troops, or their degredation.

This post is about our how lying president says that "consoling" people is the hardest part of his job.

:wtf:

:shrug:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:57 PM
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14. Woah there just a second...
Buddy,

First of all, let me say welcome to DU and that I'm very, very sorry that your loved ones are in harm's way in Iraq. My late father served in the Navy from 1951-1961 and I'm proud of that period of his life. I can assure you that no one here at DU wishes your loved ones harm. I don't know where you got that idea and it is very unfortunate that you feel that way. None of us here want our loved ones in uniform to have to fight in a war that is completely unecessary and illegal. There are many DUers who are veterans or have family members overseas. We want our loved ones in Iraq to come home so that they can be with their families. No one here feels contempt for your dad or brothers.
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kellenburger Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:56 PM
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16.  I am in awe..
...of the brave men and women who risk their lives every day in Iraq and Afghanistan. My sincerest wish is that they would all return home safe and sound.
It would mean so much if the president could be sincere for one fucking second, something I don't think he is capable of.

(errors blamed on cheap rum and frustration)
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 07:46 AM
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27. Hi kellenburger!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:29 PM
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17. Funny thing. I just searched all of your many 14 posts and no one has
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 10:36 PM by txindy
given you any "flack" let alone a lot of it. I was all prepared to jump on anyone that had and I completely missed it. Do me a big favor and point out where this happened, would you, please? I'd like to help out and straighten out those who would wish our troops ill. Please do point me to the correct threads and specific posts. You've only posted 14 times, it shouldn't be hard to backtrack.

I'll wait. Thank you.

Adding: I checked again because I thought I might have missed something. Nope. Nearly every one of your posts has been simply a Subject line like "Good Response" and the message was empty. No arguments. No flack. You posted one other "Be Careful" warning just like this one, completely out of the blue, and got precisely the same thoughtful, reassuring responses. Please do guide me to the perpetrators of the "flack." I want to help. Perhaps a moderator can help.


:popcorn:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:37 PM
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18. Twice you've done that
No one's given you grief, DUers have been supportive of your plight. Take a break, you're spoiling for a fight and no one's interested.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:41 PM
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19. Buddy, I nor anyone else on this board wishes any harm to your
father and brothers. My nephew was over there, came home, and is scheduled to go back in January. What bothers most of us here is extremeists from both sides - Islamic and Christian. If anyone calls for the death of your loved ones on this board, report them to the Mods because that's not what we're about. I would like to get them back and not have to see my nephew go. Hang in there, Buddy, my thoughts are with you.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:47 PM
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21. Then you should check this out
http://www.iwilltryit.com/iraq1.htm If you believe that nonsense you believe rightwing crap.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 07:53 AM
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28. your post has NOTHING to do with the subject of this thread.
I suspect you are full of shit, mr low post count. :eyes:
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:37 PM
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10. I heard an interview with Cindy Sheehan...
... on the nature of Bush's style of comforting. Said he walked into the room the family was in, saying, "okay, who are we honoring now?"

Very perfunctory, and when Sheehan started asking some pointed questions about why her son had to die, he tried to say that her son dying was no different than the death of another relative, an aunt or an uncle. She managed to ask him, what it if were one of your twins, and it was the only point that he seemed to connect, momentarily, with what Sheehan's family was feeling.

Said she kept trying to show him pictures of her son when he was young, and he did everything he could not to look at them. She kept pressing on him one of her son when he was nine or ten months old and he kept avoiding it, and looked at it only for a moment.

I suspect that's why she's determined to see him--to ask, again, the questions he wouldn't answer when he first met the family.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:00 PM
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15. here are Cindy's words in an interview on Democracy Now this June
This is what it's like for families having to meet with bush after their loved one has been killed by his lies:


http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/29/143...


CINDY SHEEHAN: Actually, I met with the President in June of 2004, a couple of months after my son was killed. We were summoned up to Fort Irwin, Washington state, to have a sit down with the president. So my entire family went. And I was on CNN last night with Larry King talking about this, and there was another mother who had met with him, and she said that she supports the war and the President, and she said he was so warm and everything and gentle and kind, and when my family and I met with him, I met a man who had no compassion in him. He had no heart. Like Karen said, he cares nothing about us. We tried to show him pictures of Casey. He wouldn't look at them. He wouldn't even acknowledge Casey's name. He called me “Mom” through the entire visit. He acted like we were at a tea party, like it was something fun, that we should just be so pleased that we got to meet with the President who killed our son.

AMY GOODMAN: What did you say to him?

CINDY SHEEHAN: The first thing, he came up to me, and he goes, “Mom, I can't imagine your loss. I can't imagine losing a loved one, you know, whether it be a mother, a father, a sister or brother.” And I stopped him, and I said, “You have two children. Try to imagine them being killed in a war. How would that make you feel?” And he got a little bit of -- just a little bit of human flicker in his eye, like he might be connected for a minute, because this is a man that's disconnected from humanity. And he had just got a little flicker in his eye, and I said, “Trust me, you don't want to go there.” And you know what he told me? He goes, “You're right, I don't.” And so I said, “Well, thank you for putting me there.”

And then he moved on to the next person, and then a little while later we were talking, and he went up to my oldest daughter, and he said, “I wish I could bring back your loved one to replace the hole in your heart.” And she goes, “Yeah, so do we.” And he gave her the dirtiest look and turned his back on her and ignored her for the rest of the meeting. And then a little later on in the meeting, I said, “Why were we invited here? We didn't vote for you in 2000, and we're certainly not going to vote for you in 2004.” And he said, “It's not about politics,” which is just bologna, because he went through the campaign trail, and last night he said he meets with families, and we say that we’re praying for him and stuff like that.

You know, that’s not -- that wasn't our experience. And everybody else I’ve talked to who have met with him have about the same experiences I do. He comes in, says I want to extend the gratitude of the nation and express my condolences, but he says it, and his eyes don't convey that, his heart doesn't convey that. We felt – we left our meeting with him feeling worse than when we walked in, feeling more determined to stop the madness in Iraq than before.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:51 PM
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22. I heard her talking about that on Malloy's show
and boy was it creepy.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:19 AM
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24. yes - she talked about him on our local AAR, in Minnesota with
Nick Coleman.

She kept emphasizing bush's lack of humanity - empty - no heart.

Cindy Sheehan totally rocks the country - she just needs broader coverage and I hope her Crawford Stand will get things going.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:58 AM
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26. Knowing how this WH operates, expect a press
release soon to the effect that the chimp met with Cindy Sheehan previously and that she had an opportunity to voice her concerns at that time.

They will turn this around to make her look like a stalker or worse.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:39 PM
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11. Fuck him. He's such a fucking liar. Such a fucking, lying, asshole
sack of shit, I can't fucking stand it.

Who has he consoled? Anyone outside the token patriot mother he was able to cajole into showing up at the state of he union address so he could bring her out at an emotionall charged moment to make it look like he's meeting every family and weeping with them and having them to the white house and paying for their children's college and buying them cars and, hell, even letting them live at the white house for as long as they need.

Fuck you, Shrubbie McCokeHead Asshole Traitor Fuck. You are nothing but a fucking liar.

Fuck you all the way to hell.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:42 PM
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20. Does that include Cindy Sheehan???
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:51 PM
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23. This sociopath is going on the junkheap of history soon
And hopefully the lesson of electing a creep who giggles about executing someone, lies like a rug (remember his first BIG whopper, the one about how he hardly knew Ken Lay, he donated money to my opponent?), who isn't bright enough to read a moderately difficult textbook, and has no real friends in his life (name one that doesn't work for him) is so far beneath this country as to turn us into Uganda in the Amin days.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:22 AM
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25. What a jagoff. I can't put into words how much of a scumbag he is.
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