Bush's Neocon Friends Shocked As He Backs Darwin-Doubters

[Hissyspit]

From The Sunday Times

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1724138,00.html

Bush’s neocon friends shocked as he backs the Darwin-doubters

THE theory of intelligent design, which emphasises the role of a creator in the development of the universe, has received a boost from President George W Bush. He has called for it to be taught alongside evolution in schools, writes Sarah Baxter.
While Bush’s conservative Christian fundamentalist base is delighted by his pronouncement, it has opened a split with neoconservatives and other secular allies on the right.

In Texas, where the president likes to spend August reconnecting with his heartland, Bush said last week: “Both sides ought to be taught . . . so people can understand what the debate is about.”

The teaching of Darwinism is a controversial issue in Kansas and other patches of middle America, where legal and political challenges are being mounted to introduce intelligent design into the science curriculum. Many fundamentalists believe that the world is only 6,000 years old and that atheistic theories are being foisted on children.

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“With the president endorsing it, at the very least it makes Americans who have that position more respectable, for lack of a better word,” said Gary Bauer, a leading Christian activist. “It’s not some backwater view. It is a view held by the majority of Americans.”

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[aquart]

1. It is a backwater view, Gary. For a backwater, backward nation.

People are laughing at us. Nations are laughing at us.

We had everything. And threw it away.

[punpirate]

2. The neo-conservatives don't...

... give a shit what Bush says. They're the ones in control. He can prattle on all day about day-glo underwear if he wants and they won't care.

Here's the key phrase indicating that this idiot writer doesn't have a clue: "In Texas, where the president likes to spend August reconnecting with his heartland,..."

Another clueless reporter who's either bought into the mythology or is paid to write drivel.

[Hissyspit]

3. yeah, that line made me give out a sardonic laugh

HIS heartland? :puke:

[punpirate]

4. I don't know of too many pathological personalities...

... with a genuine fondness for the folksy and homespun, do you? :)

By 2009, that little bit of the heartland will be sold and he'll be in Florida playing golf and hobnobbing with semi-retired stockbrokers.

[DemInDistress]

5. hey if bush wants to promote

God created earth in 6 days,adam from 100 lbs. of clay and eve from adam's rib,I say let them but do it in catholic school and keep that bullshit out of public schools

[davepc]

7. Catholic doctrine accepts and promotes evolution

So I don't know why you'd expect anything else to be taught in Catholic schools.

Today, almost half a century after publication of the encyclical, new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers, following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge. The convergence, neither sought nor fabricated, of the results of work that was conducted independently is in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory. -- John Paul II, October 23, 1996

[Stirk]

6. Bush is so fucking stupid.

I've had this "Intelligent Design/Evolution" argument with *alot* of religious fundamentalists. Only a fool *could* argue for teaching ID in science classes, but some are more lucid than others.

The stupidest ones always start out with the "teach both and let the kids decide which they believe" line. When I hear that I just say to myself, "here's a lost cause".

I used to try to explain to them why ID isn't science, until I realized that the argument didn't affect them at all. They don't care if ID isn't science- they want an alternative to science. They do not understand the difference between evidence and belief. They just do not get it.

It's like they've stumbled out of the 13th century, I swear.

[anarchy1999]

8. Idiots one and all.

“With the president endorsing it, at the very least it makes Americans who have that position more respectable, for lack of a better word,” said Gary Bauer, a leading Christian activist. “It’s not some backwater view. It is a view held by the majority of Americans.”

Gary can we talk with you about your ties to the Moon organization.

You know the Good Rev. Sun Moon or whatever, Unification Church guy, personally, I'd like some answers, Thanks, Gary, hope to hear from you soon.

[applegrove]

9. Your patsy got loose! You neocons will have to take ownership of

his stupidity FOREVER.

He is your brand.

[sakabatou]

10. If I ever taught science

I'd only explain what ID is, but I would never teach it.