ls317
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Sun Aug-07-05 04:14 PM
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Edited on Sun Aug-07-05 04:15 PM by ls317
The announcement follows a surge in fighting between U.S.-led forces and Taliban rebels ahead of elections next month. The bloodshed has led the military to rush in an airborne infantry battalion of about 700 troops on standby in Fort Bragg, N.C. http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_afghan_080505,00.html
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sandnsea
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Sun Aug-07-05 04:22 PM
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I don't get it. Why would it take so long to get 15,000 troops into Afghanistan. Stuff like this is why I have a problem with the UN IN theory for Iraq. 15,000 NATO troops for Afghanistan shouldn't be a big deal and would seem to be a way to keep it from turning into Iraq. But NATO either can't or won't take over now. I just don't understand.
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FloridaPat
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Sun Aug-07-05 04:42 PM
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4. Real simple. The rest of the world knows we invaded 2 countries |
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with a good reason. They also know that the oil in the ME is in our sights plus the oil in Africa and S. America. Once we get control of all the oil, everyone has to play by our rules. Why should they put their money and soldiers in harms way to help * take over the oil? THe thinking may be that once the dollar collapses because of the wars and the ineptitude by *, maybe the rest of the American population will wake up and realize what's going on.
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sandnsea
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Sun Aug-07-05 04:48 PM
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5. The world let Afghanistan happen |
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It's a different situation, or at least it was until the rest of the world let Bush take it over. The entire world agreed to the invasion, they should have been there to see to it that it was a success. No matter what idiotic shit Bush did.
Transferring 15,000 troops to Iraq isn't going to make a hill of beans difference there.
If the Bushie's are willing to turn Afghanistan over to NATO, NATO should jump on it. It's the only hope those poor people have.
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FloridaPat
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Sun Aug-07-05 05:01 PM
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6. Actually Russia had a comment about the 15,000 troops that were |
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used to invade Afghanistan. It was a Pravda a couple of years ago. They said we went in with not enough solders to do much except remove the government and take over Kabul. The world thought we had a good reason to go in. It's obvious now we were lied to again and the only reason we are in Afghanistan is to get that oil pipeline through and in US corporation hands. Seems the pipeline rights were sold to a S. American company, which I didn't find out until 2 years after the invasion. Amazing the things the MSM don't mention.
As for the 15,000 to Iraq, probably to get the numbers up because of the desertions and soldiers refusing to go back. Also, there was that rumor of Britian pulling out.
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sandnsea
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Sun Aug-07-05 06:12 PM
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Was it not enough troops, or NATO didn't want to contribute more troops? I seem to recall them increasing troops to the Baltics so we could transfer troops to Afghanistan.
I agree on Bush and his motives, completely. But if Bush is willing to pull out of Afghanistan, seems to me it's a good time for the rest of the world to get in there and do it right. Because it's the right thing to do.
And those 15,000 in Iraq, for whatever reason, isn't enough to make a hill of beans difference. NATO refusing to help in Afghanistan because of 15,000 troops going to Iraq, would be stupid.
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Horse with no Name
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Sun Aug-07-05 06:17 PM
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8. Perhaps because they know * is itching to go to Iran |
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but as long as he has wars on 2 different fronts, it will be increasingly difficult. To take over in Afghanistan would merely be enabling him to go spread more democracy. In a sane world, you are 100% correct. However, in Bush's world--right is always wrong.
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Sun Aug-07-05 06:45 PM
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Proving to the entire world that Europe can get something right when Bush can't would be well worth any potential risk. The best way to keep him out of Iran is to prove he's a complete imbecile.
OTOH, not wanting to be blamed for his fuck-up in Afghanistan might be a very good reason to not want to take it over. Especially with mustache in the UN. If that's the case, I'd just rather hear laughter from Europe on this NATO request. Not "next year".
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun Aug-07-05 04:22 PM
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The Greeks The Persians The Mongols The Indians The Brits (Including my grandfather) The Russians
All had a shot at subduing Afghanistan.
And, now America/NATO is taking it's turn. I wonder who will be next after we get booted out like all of our predecessors?
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Sun Aug-07-05 04:23 PM
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Why aren't more Dem leaders demanding answers concerning this forgotten war? I think even a lot of really conservative people are wandering what the hell ever happened to Afghanistan.
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Horse with no Name
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Sun Aug-07-05 06:19 PM
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9. From reports it is heating up in Afghanistan |
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and threatening to get out of control. That's why we don't hear about it anymore. There isn't any success on any front. We don't talk about things that might upset the sheeple.
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