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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:44 PM Original message |
Why aren't the democrats talking about PNAC |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. probably because anybody who does bring it up is looked down on as a |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. - |
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tenshi816 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 06:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
59. It's weird too, because the PNAC people |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. Exactly |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Wes Clark did |
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JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 07:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
60. Chuck Rangel brought it up on Hannity once |
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oscar111 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. people for a new amer century? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Project for the New American Century. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. a walk down memory lane with the PNAC BASTARDS |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. Seeing Into the Future |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Why aren't they talking about |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Google PNAC and Read Their Statement of Principles |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I know all about the PNAC, they are certainly one of the problems |
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Al-CIAda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Yes sir, one wonders...are they THIS clueless? I say no, which can only |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I do know that the public IS CLUELESS |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
50. i'd lay odds |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 01:39 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. It would be better titled the Cheney regime manifesto. |
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JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 07:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Bolton too |
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JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 07:14 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Most of Bush's big time appointees have been PNAC |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. PNAC member lists found here |
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nookiemonster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Yes. |
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yorkiemommie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. it seems to be the GOP's operating manual |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. 'Cause pronouncing it sounds like a sick sneeze. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. rational people can't believe any sane people would take that route |
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European Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. The media owners are probably secret members of PNAC. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I truely believe some of them are |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
68. It would certainly explain a lot of things. nt |
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Al-CIAda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. Signed, sealed, and disribued game plans of the "New Pearl Harbor" |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. THE SILENCE IS AN OUTRAGE |
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sintax (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Add to that list Maurice Hinchey |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
17. Frankly? Too esoteric & conspiratorial for Joe Six-Pack |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. Yup, I agree. |
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Al-CIAda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
67. If I may be frank, I say it wouldn't be these things if the candidates |
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halsaxby (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
19. This is what Nader is talking about... |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. That is my point |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. We do. They want to be known as PNAC. We call them neocons. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. No, it is NOT the same thing |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. No - those are all the neocons. Steve Forbes wants the 16th Amendment |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
24. Recommended cuz there is not enough said even on DU about this |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. PNAC 101 Thread started by LunaC here: |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. Been asking that one since pre-election! None of my LTTEs get through |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
29. The only Democrat I remember |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
30. I do. I link their "Rebuilding America's Defenses" to current |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
31. I think Charlie Rangel talked about it on air, perhaps on Faux, a couple |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Yep |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 04:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
55. agree that many would think it's our divine right to rule the world |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
70. The Statement of Principles is Sugar-Coated, Sure |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 01:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. I agree |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 04:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
54. how can it be conspiracy theory when it's in plain sight on their webpage? |
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JohnnyBoots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 07:13 AM Response to Reply #54 |
62. On the surface they are just a "Conservative Think Tank" |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
32. Kucinich |
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Spock_is_Skeptical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 01:00 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. yes... I do think you are right, I think he did mention it. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
33. Because the Democrats have their own version in the PPI |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Will Marshall is a signatory to at least one of their manifestos. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
37. A more recent entry of events surrounding PNAC. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Deleted message |
still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 01:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. excellent points |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. I didn't realize that Bolton was PNAC. Certainly seems to pose |
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shelley806 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
40. Nominated...and kicked. |
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Buddyblazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-05 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
42. I bring it up everytime I get into political arguments.... |
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shelley806 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
43. I view PNAC as a sub category of neoconservatives. Many JINSA |
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shelley806 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Just found my notes on some current and past JINSA members... |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
45. When Tony Blair was asked about PNAC he said it was an internet conspiracy |
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Al-CIAda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. If we had a real 'opposition' here, they would make such |
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BeTheChange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
46. Because the issues are saturated right now.. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
47. Google |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
53. PNAC scares the shit out of people. |
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evilqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
56. Consider this... |
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Lannes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
57. Would be great if Conyers did a "show and tell" |
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KayLaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
58. The St. Pete Times |
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Agent Orange (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
64. Was Kosovo a PNAC project? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
66. Well let's see here |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-05 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
72. Why aren't the democrats talking about PNAC? |
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Goldmund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-05 11:27 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Bingo. |
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Al-CIAda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-05 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
74. . |
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