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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:27 AM
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Dear Judy in dutch w/Fitzgerald over hubby's health??? and MORE
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 04:36 AM by Gabi Hayes
check Arianna for this juicy tid:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/arianna-huffington/the-expanding-judy-file_5248.html

One of the more intriguing tips directed me to Miller's lawyers' motion seeking home detention -- and to Fitzgerald's response . The question was whether Miller might have opened the door to more trouble with Fitzgerald by invoking the ill health of her 76-year-old husband, Jason Epstein, when trying to convince Judge Hogan to let her serve her time at home.

The fact that after Judy was sent to jail, Epstein headed off on a Mediterranean cruise, led my e-mailer to suggest: "When Fitzgerald and Hogan find out about the cruise, Miller could get hit with a separate contempt charge for misleading the court -- judges and prosecutors do not take that kind of thing lightly."

It's hard to say whether Miller was misleading the court since the parts of her motion relating to her husband's health have been marked "confidential" and filed under seal. However, the non-confidential part says: "Also relevant to consider is the health of Ms. Miller's 76-year-old husband."


don't you just love it....plus, hubby's more like a daddy, now, isn't he? as in sugar?

enjoy your cruise, poppy

EDIT: the important part of this Huffington post is that the NYT is doing an inhouse investo on Miller, cause they're worried that they'll be scooped by outside reporters actually doing some reporting for a change. too bad nobody thought of practicing their craft back in 1999, when the BFEE launched dumbass' campaign nationally.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:37 AM
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1. hahahahhaaaaaaa.....one more paragraph from above
Speaking of the Times' Washington bureau, according to another source within the Times, the DC office has put in a dedicated phone line specifically for the purpose of receiving Judy's collect calls from prison -- which are then forwarded to whoever it is she wants to talk to.

It's been dubbed "the Judy Line." No word on whether the number is 1-800-4-MARTYR.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:49 AM
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2. oooh, nicely done Arianna. LOL Thanks for posting this Gabi. n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:57 AM
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6. thx...if you liked that, and have some time, see post #5
loathefest abounding
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:50 AM
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3. While I dislike the...
... Louella Parsons-like gossip columnist tone that Huffington has taken over this, it's yet more indication that Miller has been neither truthful in her pleadings to the courts or her reporting. When she wants to play games with the prosecutors, that's between her and the prosecutors. When she wants to mislead her employers about her reporting, that's between her and the Times.

But, when she's sought to further the agenda of the White House because it fits her politics, or because her reporting, however untruthful, is meant to justify the conclusions she made in a badly-researched book fifteen years ago, she's done the public a gross disservice.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:52 AM
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5. you're being WAY too kind, IMO
well-said, nonetheless
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:06 AM
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8. Well, "disservice" was probably not...
... a strong enough word. Someone who deceived her readers in order to propagandize for a war based on false information (for which she was a conduit of a great deal of that false information) is probably not adequately described as doing a disservice to the public.

There are harsher words, but, I'm eating. "Quisling" comes to mind, though, as does "spawn of Westbrook Pegler and Leni Reifenstahl." :)

Cheers.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:51 AM
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4. excellent research here about Judy the embed, as well as
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 04:56 AM by Gabi Hayes
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:03 AM
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7. more good stuff
Joshua Holland, the Gadflyer, July 8, 2005
... I do take great pleasure in seeing Miller rot away in a jail cell, and I'm not afraid to say it.

After all, she didn't just help get us into this war. She served much the same purpose in the run-up to the first Gulf War. In 1990 she co-authored the inflammatory bestseller Saddam Hussein and the Crisis in the Gulf with right-wing nut-job and AEI Fellow Laurie Mylroie. Mylroie is the one who advanced the theory that even the Oklahoma City bombings committed by Timothy McVeigh were actually the work of Iraqi intelligence.

As for the heroism of Miller and Cooper's crusade for journalism, I think it's pathetic. They're shielding a vindictive and probably illegal act committed in order to silence just the kind of whistleblower the use of confidential sources is supposed to protect.


And a requiem for Judy:

All the News That's Fudged to Print
If You Think Jayson Blair was Loose with the Facts, Look at How the Times Covered Iraq
by John MacArthur, Globe & Mail/Canada, June 6, 2003
... The Times has lately been a perpetrator of fraud more than its victim.

Take the case of staff reporter Judith Miller, who covers the atomic bomb/chemical-weapons-fear beat, and hasn't heard a scare story about Iraq that she didn't believe, especially if leaked by her White House friends. On Sept. 8, 2002, Ms. Miller and her colleague Michael Gordon helped co-launch the Bush II sales campaign for Saddam-change with a front page story about unsuccessful Iraqi efforts to purchase 81-mm aluminum tubes, allegedly destined for a revived nuclear weapons program. ...

When officials leak a "fact" to Ms. Miller, they then can cite her subsequent stenography in the Times as corroboration of their own propaganda, as though the Times had conducted its own independent investigation. On Sept. 8, Dick Cheney cited the Times's aluminum tubes nonsense on Meet the Press to buttress his casus belli. ...

Meanwhile, the White House-Judith Miller teamwork has had its intended impact. A Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) poll found that 41 per cent of Americans "either believed that the U.S. had found WMD, or were unsure" and that 31 per cent thought Iraq had actually used chemical or biological weapons in the war (or were unsure). These numbers led PIPA director Steven Kull to suggest that "some Americans may be avoiding having an experience of cognitive dissonance." No, they're just reading The New York Times. ...

http://www.publicdomainprogress.info/2005/07/i-do-take-great-pleasure-in-seeing.html

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:22 AM
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10. Thanks also for the links to additional articles, Gabi. As noted, there
is a pattern of the Administration and their buds feeding a story to Miller and then citing her reporting as corroboration of their claims. Laundering their disinformation through Miller.

So when it appeared that Libby and Rove were claiming that they heard the Plame story from the media and Judy elected to go to the slammer although she'd never written a story on the Plame matter and wouldn't have been an obvious choice for Fitzgerald's scrutiny, I suspected she was protecting more than just a "source."
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:53 AM
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17. got it! circular, reinforcing propaganda....and the media
are SO fffing lazy/credulous, that it's worked perfectly for them so far, and, if judging by the past is any indication, it will this time, as well

one can only hope

sigh
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:21 AM
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9. saw a freeplink on JM, and HAD to see just how insane/misinformed
they are

this just about sums it up:

"Yep -- after White House criticized his report, he had an op ed piece in NYT. At about that time, I believe he bragged to a reporter (Miller?) something along the lines of 'I know what I'm talking about. My wife is a secret agent!'"

how many things did this idiot get wrong?

makes sense, though, cause an earlier poster talks about getting his info from.....who else>>>Rush!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1440946/posts

really a laff: see just how utterly clueless/wishful/delusional they are over this
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:37 AM
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11. Judith's hubby must be a real prize
I wonder if he ever even bothers to go visit her in jail or he still too busy cruising around?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:40 AM
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12. he's frickin OLD. I don't know if he cancelled, or not, but.....
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 05:42 AM by Gabi Hayes
their excuse that they'd lose their deposit if he didn't go doesn't get it with me

I'll bet he's got more money than Croesus. why else would somebody marry a guy that old?

she's gotta be 20 years younger, at least, right?

very crude/superficial on my part, I realize, but would it surprise you? she certainly doesn't strike one as the type of person to be unmoved by the trappins of wealth and power, now, does she?

she was born in 48....edit

his birthday is up above; 76-77

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:44 AM
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13. The Six Star Harry Potter Cruise
on the Silversea http://www.silversea.com/why_ss/frames/why_ss_frame.asp

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/331819p-283554c.html

Famed editor Jason Epstein, husband of jailed New York Times reporter Judith Miller, has lately been making himself scarce at the federal facility in Virginia where his wife has been incarcerated for the past three weeks.

Miller has been married to Epstein - who was the longtime editorial director at Random House and a founder of the New York Review of Books - since 1993. She chose contempt of court and imprisonment over revealing her sources to the independent counsel in the CIA-Karl Rove-Robert Novak leak brouhaha.

And Epstein's choice?

In a frothy social column yesterday about a celeb-glutted Mediterranean cruise, featuring everyone from Isabella Rossellini to J.K. Rowling aboard the ocean liner Silver Shadow, the New York Sun's A.L. Gordon revealed:

"One passenger with his mind soberly on home is the literary icon Jason Epstein. ... Ms. Miller would have been on the cruise had she not gone to jail."

His wife's in the slammer and he cruises the Med?

..more at link...
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:52 AM
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16. thanks! I wonder if he'd gone or not
everyone from isabella rosellini to JK Rowling?

what's that supposed to mean?

Dennis Hopper?

sounds like quite the to-do
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:46 AM
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14. interesting stuff about Epstein
During 40 years as editorial director at Random House (he was lured there in 1958 by Cerf, who put him in charge of the Vintage paperback line), Epstein worked with Norman Mailer, Vladimir Nabokov, E.L. Doctorow, Gore Vidal and Philip Roth. He received the first National Book Award for Distinguished Service to American Letters and the Curtis Benjamin Award from the Association of American Publishers for "inventing new kinds of publishing and editing."

wonder if he got rich doing his sorta stuff

he was editorial director at random house for quite some time

somebody (Arianna?) said she talked to Vidal about Miller's upcoming jailhouse a clef, and ridiculed her writing. wonder what he thinx about hubby
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:49 AM
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15. jeez louEEZ...cofounder of the NY Review of fricking BOOKS!
I used to subscibe to them...guess I never read the masthead, or much else, very carefully, cause I find googling that he writes a bunch of stuff for them, too
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:01 AM
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18. Vintage Paperbacks Are The BEST!
Epstein was an exceptional editor and excellent writer himself. Judith has been using him for years and I think he is giving her a big "Fuck You Honey."
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:06 AM
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19. righto...he's largely credited with
creating the boom in paperback publishing

I've known that for a long time....twenty minutes, at least
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:19 AM
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20. That Boom Was Greatly Influenced By Me! LOL
I've been buying and reading Vintage paperbacks since I was 10 years old. A voracious reader with loads of babysitting cash is a dangerous thing! I had over 2600 paperbacks at last count. Fuck Judy Go Go Go Epstein and have a few cocktails on me my friend!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:43 AM
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21. amen...hope he meets a hostess on the cruise and runs off to
Mykonos with her/him
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:03 AM
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22. Me too! He sounds like he's too cool to wait around for Judy! n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:10 AM
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23. please please PLEASE let it happen while she's still in stir
that should do wonders for the dainty little periwinkle's state of mind
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:59 PM
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24. haven't seen anybody talking about this today
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