Godless Liberals are suppressing Conservatives in Colleges!!!

[ck4829]

....

:rofl:

But, then again people are believing it.

:cry:

"Provision tells schools to grade students on subjects, not ideology, measure aims to shield campus conservatives."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1685299&mesg_id=1685299

This is the kind of stuff that David Horowitz supports.

Hey, wait a second. Just how truthful are the claims of 'The Persecution of Conservatives on Campuses by Liberals AKA Complete and Total Lie'?

"Foothill College student Ahmad al-Qloushi -- who claims that he received a failing grade on a term paper about the U.S. Constitution because it was "pro-American" and whose allegations have been publicized by right-wing pundit David Horowitz -- appeared as a guest on the February 17 edition of FOX News' Hannity & Colmes. But no one on the show mentioned that al-Qloushi's professor disputes his version of events, that al-Qloushi's claims were originally publicized by the Foothill College Republicans (of which al-Qloushi is president), or that al-Qloushi has been touted by Horowitz to promote Horowitz's right-wing university campus initiatives.

"The Foothill College Republicans blasted faxes to reporters this month complaining that a professor had forced a student to see the college therapist merely because the student wrote a pro-American essay," the San Jose Mercury News reported on December 26, 2004. On January 6, Horowitz's right-wing website FrontPageMag.com posted an article by al-Qloushi about the incident. The Washington Times ran an January 16 article titled "California professor flunks Kuwaiti's pro-U.S. essay," in which it relayed al-Qloushi's claims and noted only that "Mr. Woolcock did not respond to telephone and e-mail inquiries." On February 1, al-Qloushi appeared on a segment of ABC's World News Tonight about "conservatives who claim they are victims of a double standard on college campuses," where his assertion that "I was attacked and intimidated because I love America" went unchallenged.

...

Al-Qloushi's essay, which is posted on Horowitz's Students for Academic Freedom website, has been described by conservative blogger and political science professor James Joyner as "an incredibly poorly written, error-ridden, pabulum-filled , essay that essentially ignores the question put forth by the instructor." Another conservative blogger, political science professor Steven Taylor, concluded: "I can see how this essay resulted in a failing grade."

As Media Matters for America has noted, Horowitz is president and co-founder of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture (CSPC) and the editor-in-chief of FrontPageMag.com, which serves as the CSPC's online journal. The center's agenda includes right-wing campus organizing and opposing affirmative action programs. At the end of al-Qloushi's FrontPageMag.com article and in a February 1 interview with the website, al-Qloushi expressed his support for Horowitz's "Student Bill of Rights," a campus initiative seeking to prevent professors from "forc(ing) their opinions about philosophy, politics and other contestable issues on students in the classroom."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200502220005

First they take over the Church, then they take over the School, then they take over the Government... and then they send you to a Death Camp.

[tanyev]

1. I'm sure we'll still be supressing them even from the death camps.

:sarcasm:

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[Deep13]

3. 'bout time!

:evilgrin:

[Rose Siding]

4. Poor intellectual College Republicans!

[fasttense]

5. Because these intellectual repukes get bad grades then it's the

professors fault? Bull, they do lousy school work and think it deserves an A. I've been there. I did a paper for a woman's studies class that showed how Jesus actually supported women. The professor gave me a D. I claimed it was because it supported religion instead of blasting it. Well when I went to talk to the professor about it, she explained how poorly organized and patchy it was (of course I had author's blindness and thought it was terrific). After making the corrections she recommended she upped to a B (thank God she gave me a second chance). Often a bad grade can teach you more than a good grade.

[iconoclastic cat]

6. But those freepers don't believe that they have to learn anything!

Ignorance is strength, remember?

[ProfessorGAC]

11. Maybe; Just Maybe; They're Poor Students

What do ya think? In addition, content and analysis are part of what is graded in a college paper, isn't it? So, if the ideas are simple-minded (the kid is a conservative, so let's not look for depth of logic), and the arguments are posited in a sloppy fashion, he would get a poor grade. No?

In your case, you were looking to learn. This kid obviously thinks he has it all figured out, already. The fact that he an undereducated boob, who just HAPPENS to be in college, is irrelevant to him. He's not trying to learn in college. It's just a trade school to buffoons like this.

Good for you for learning from your own shortcomings. That's what college is for.
The Professor

[Ravenseye]

7. The Essay Was Crap

http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/archive/December2004/Ahmad%27sessay121004.htm

If he wanted to argue against the question he could have, but he just didn't. Joyner was right on the money.

[The Magistrate]

12. Indeed, Sir

No grade but "F" would be possible for that effort; it is rather dismaying to realize it was written by someone attending a college....

[ProfessorGAC]

13. Dismaying, But Alas, Not Unbelievable

The Professor

[The Magistrate]

14. There Are Sentence Fragments, Sir!

Leave aside the utter lack of follow-through on the claim to demonstrate a proposition, and the recourse to mere assertion of things wholly unrelated to the point to be engaged: the creature cannot even display a mastery of simple grammar....

[Ravenseye]

15. Guh

You cityfolk sure done talk funny! I reads that essay and gots me own thoughts on that thar matter. His word stuff don't got none ta do wit it, as I see it yes sir. The boy done not answer that thar question which his fancy schoolteacher did ask. Uh hyuh.

[The Magistrate]

19. That Is True Enough, Sir

And had he actually engaged to demonstrate the ptoposition he stated in opposition to it, which could well have been done, my inclination would have been to over-look a lack of competence in written expression. Since he did no such thing, the incapacity becomes a matter for some comment.

[ProfessorGAC]

16. It Reads As If Written By A 6th Grader

You and i are in complete agreement. However, i've seen this before, IN GRADUATE STUDENTS! Like i said, dismaying, but hardly beyond belief. All too common, i fear.
The Professor

[Ravenseye]

17. What do you expect...

...from the president of the College Republicans?

[ProfessorGAC]

18. I Expected Nothing Better

Just commenting. Like i said to The Magistrate, i'm not at all surprised.
The Professor

[The Magistrate]

20. I Know, Professor

It is just that on occassion, something within me rebels....

[BlueStateModerate]

22. Oh my goodness

Is English that guy's first language? It certainly doesn't seem like it after that. Great thesis, too: "The Constitution is good."

[idlisambar]

23. pathetic n/t

[William Seger]

8. Horowitz is despicable

Truth means nothing to him:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200503160001

[Ravenseye]

9. Separate Question

What is a Kuwaiti citizen who has only been in this country for 5 months doing being the president of the college republicans?

No seriously. There was no one more qualified than a non-citizen who'd been here less than half a year?

[Vogon_Glory]

10. Gullamaroons Who Believe Horowitz's BS Never

The gullamaroons credulous enough to fall for David Horowitz's bunkum obviously never attended Southern Methodist University. The student body was overwhelmingly conservative back in the late 1970's, and I don't see how it could lurch over to the left with the general inflation as well as tuition and fee hikes.

The problem with a lot of self-styled "conservatives" (And, alas, too many of us progressives) is that they're sloppy thinkers, poor writers, and indifferent researchers.

Horowitz has not only transformed himself into a conservative, but the sort of reactionary that he once fought against.

[The Magistrate]

21. 'Gullamaroons', Sir, Is An Excellent Coinage!

"What a nimrod! What a ultra-maroon!"

[Vogon_Glory]

24. Thank You, But It's Not Original

I thank you, but "gullamaroon" is not something I made up. It's actually something made up by the script-writers for the old Warner Brothers cartoons.

I started using "gullamaroons" out of desperation. Back in the days when I posted on that ex-Time-Warner affiliate's message boards, like other progressives, I had to avoid using "naughty" words when responding to the reactionaries and their postings (Self-styled "family values" "conservatives" could and did use obscenity and blasphemy to their little black hearts' content without having THEIR posts deleted.

IMO swearing is tacky and should only be used sparingly. My posts tend to be liberally laced with all sorts of interesting verbiage that still delivers most of what I'm trying to say.

[porphyrian]

25. Good.

I fucking hate conservatives, the obnoxious pieces of shit.

[Rockholm]

26. Godless Conservatives are suppressing Liberals in USA!!!

Yes, that's right. GODLESS. Those with a REAL God would not be pulling the crap that they are.