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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:04 PM
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Weapons Found at Iranian border
CNN is reporting that a large "professional" cache of explosives has been found.

BReaking story.
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:07 PM
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1. Gee we better go invade Iran!
If we want to stop the insurgency, better go invade Iran and stop all of them from making more "very sophistated" bombs. Right, right? And the next story on CNN is the Iran refinement stuff. Its deju vu all over again...
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:35 PM
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14. or tell Dimbulb & Rummie "Gee, outta have secured the borders"
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 04:41 PM by emulatorloo
like everybody advised you too. . .

SO TOO DAMN BAD BUSHBOY. . . .

and maybe Dick shouldn't have sold all that stuff to Iran when he was working at Hallyburton.

Sorry, no Iran invasion for the Bush admin.

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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:57 AM
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25. That always confused me ...

They keep saying that they have enough troops in Iraq. That was the # the generals say they need and if they say they need more, they'll get them.

... BUT ....

The insurgency is being fueled by "foreign fighters". The explosives and weapons are all "home brewed" (not derivative of the ungaurded Al-Qaqaa) weapons depot. And terrorists are just "streaming in" to the country.


This is a prime example of cognitive dissonance. People who can believe both of these things are so incredibly brainwashed and married to an ideological belief system that makes them incapable of digesting facts and executing logic. Too much O'Reilly Factor I guess.

They don't have enough troops to even secure the streets, nonetheless to secure the borders. And that's really ironic considering that the borders of Iraq aren't mountainous or forest. They're DESERTS. They can easily be controlled with attack helicopters. Just make sure to put up some signs (warning: border crossing at illegal crossing. Violators will be shot at with 20mm machine guns and hellfire missles.


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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:10 PM
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2. Did they have to go to a special school
to certify as a "professional" weapons cache? Does that make them smarter -- or just better dressed than "amateur" weapons caches?
:sarcasm:
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GracieM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:43 PM
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18. School of business
They found weapons? click

Now they found "professional" weapons? 10 seconds....click
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:51 PM
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19. They had their resumes with them
Four years with DoD, two years with Pakistani weapons dealers, one year with Saddam Hussein's Republican guards, references available on request.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 08:58 AM
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24. *snort*!!
Thanks for the chuckle, both of you (Gracie, too). Don't you just love ambiguous pronouns?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:10 PM
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3. probably planted for propaganda purposes
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:10 PM
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4. 0h Hum! I wonder if "non-professional" explosives would
be any less dangerous.

Does this sound like propaganda, LOL!!

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:17 PM
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7. What about IED's?
Aren't they amateur? But they still kill lots of Americans.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:23 PM
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12. Well, they are improvised
It seems to me that someone who can "improvise" an explosive device is by definition a professional.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:11 PM
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5. Does this not sound familar...REMEMBER IRAQ...It worked once
why not again....
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:15 PM
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6. no kidding
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 04:15 PM by antifaschits
I guess Wolfie is too fast for their website. It still hasn't made it on.

They did state that there was "no way to show who manufactured or shipped the arms" except that they were "professional".
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:21 PM
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9. I wonder what an invasion poll would say right now..
"Do you support invading Iran?"

I'll bet the no's would be a LOT higher than 53% for Iraq...
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:18 PM
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8. Were they stamped "Property of Curveball"?
Or maybe "BFEE Enterprises".
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:22 PM
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10. Gee
this corresponds nicely with John Bolton's threat against Syria and Iran now doesn't it? A little too convenient if you ask me.
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Lucille Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:22 PM
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11. Blitzer just said that the Pentagon says they came from Iran
and possibly the Revolutionary Guard, according to an "analysis." The story that followed was Iran's nuclear program. Do we see a pattern here?

PS--Blitzer and his special correspondent were unable to forge a theory as to why the Iranians shi'a want to help the Iraqi Sunnis, but concluded that this is "potentially" a big story.

Well, yes. ARen't they all?
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:34 PM
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13. Did it say which side of the border?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:36 PM
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15. maybe
they haven't made that part up yet? :shrug:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:37 PM
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16. Right on cue!!!
This time, though, they've got the WMD planted before the invasion. BushCo must be learning from their mistakes in Iraq.
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12345 Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:00 PM
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21. yeah, that business with bolton really threw things off. now that
he's been "installed", maybe they can proceed as planned...
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 PM
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17. Maybe it belongs to the Iranian Mining Co...
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 04:39 PM by Az_lefty
or maybe our little chickenhawk is trying to plant WMD's again.

just askin...
:hide:
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:53 PM
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20. They "found" them?
Bushco should probably do a better job of remembering where they leave things from now on...
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:00 PM
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22. Indictments are close OR THAT woman in Crawford is getting to 'em! n/t
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:37 PM
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23. It's all about cement!
Since 2003, there has been a global cement shortage. Over half of the world's cement is produced in China, which as you may recall wasn't terribly happy about the American invasion of Iraq. Thus we should not be surprised that there is a shortage of cement for rebuilding in Iraq.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/07/14/biz_cement14.html

However, the real problem to date is that what cement has been available to Iraq isn't being used to rebuild that country. Instead it's being poured into fourteen very permanent concrete bases to protect the seventeen brigade-sized US forces in Iraq.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/040323-enduring-bases.htm

I should note that China has very plausible excuses for not being able to export cement, what with the construction boom in Hong Kong, enormous public works projects, and the Olympics. But it probably didn't escape the attention of the Chinese that by not sharing their cement, they would force the United States to choose between rebuilding Iraq or fortifying it. We chose the latter, and we are paying for it in blood and treasure.

However, my sources inside Halliburton tell me that those bases are nearing completion. Once the permanent fortification of Iraq is complete, the actual rebuilding of Iraq can begin, some three years after the invasion. And, I suspect, the powers that be think that once some real work is done for the Iraqi people, their ardor for resisting the occupation will subside. Which will free up troops who are already in position to invade the next target.

Thus, the timetable for invasion of the next country, be it Syria, Saudi Arabia, or Iran, has been contingent upon how much cement Halliburton can pour.

And it looks like they're just about done pouring.

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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:05 AM
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26. The problem with cement is ...

The problem is that Iraq used to produce a LOT of cement. Now that the Bush crime family has taken over and refused to do any reconstruction, Iraq no longer produces cement. The electricity doesn't work.

You broke it, you bought it. Don't tell it's due to the "insurgents". Saddam had religious insurgents too, and they were terrified to move a muscle against him.

We went in undermanned to fight a counter-insurgency battle. The Bush administration ignored the state departments plans for post invasion civil affairs. They fired EVERYONE who belonged to the Bathe party and fired the Army. Is it any WONDER that they now have an insurgency and poor civil infrastructure given that they sacked everyone who knew how to run the country????

Lord knows that they couldn't use anyone from the Yugoslav reconstruction teams. No, no, that would only point out Clinton's VERY successfull nation building efforts that were accomplished without the death of a SINGLE US soldier.

Just like they ditched all the anti-terrorism efforts at the FBI when they took over because that was a "Clinton" thing. Or how they shut down the Army's "nation building" and "peace keeping" schools because they didn't approve of nation building. Oh the irony.

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