Anyone in here believe that in 08 Hillary can beat Jeb Bush?

[Imagevision]

YES/NO/MAYBE

- Don't forget they've already demonstrated they're "computer skills"

[Pawel K]

1. Easily

But it won't go down like that and she certainly doesn't have my vote in the primaries. She fucked up with the Rockstar games ordeal.

[lancdem]

3. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't run, actually

[Mari333]

2. no. shes too hated by the right, plus, shes a woman

US is far too patriarchal to ever vote in a woman.

[lancdem]

9. Being hated by the right is not disqualifying in and of itself

So was her husband, and he won twice. The right won't like anyone we run, so that should be irrelevant.

[Imagevision]

12. Nah! - Ginggrich was doing smiling photo-ops with Hillary last week.

[BabboonBush]

4. Yeah but

if Jeb Bush runs for office I'm moving to Europe!!

Another Bushie in the WH? NO WAY!! This Bush Cabal has to end...and NOW. Personally I'd like it to end with a bang. Impeachment.

[LiberalVoice]

5. Not a damn chance nt

[lancdem]

10. She'd lose only if they rigged the machines

I think she'd beat any RW Repuke but have more trouble with someone like McCain (any Dem would).

[LiberalVoice]

27. She would lose rigged or not....

If you want to see the Repugs band together like never seen before run her in 08.

The idea that Clinton could win is indicative of the problems the Democratic party faces today. The horse is dead...Stop beating it.

[WI_DEM]

6. I don't think either Jeb or Hillary will run in '08

[Skidmore]

7. Gackkkk!!!!

banging head on desk repeatedly

[BOSSHOG]

8. Like a drum. All night long.

I'd love the debate(s). They should be pay per view. I will support whomever the democrats nominate but If I were a republican the last person I'd want to run against is Hillary. Conservatives have spent 20+ years pissing her off; do they really think she got elected Senator to roll over and die?

[bullimiami]

11. in a fair fight? she would win in a landslide.

hopefully her people are tough and smart enough to overcome the fraud that will occur.

[Imagevision]

17. Fair fight?! oh poleeeze! Imagine Rove running Jeb's campaign

and let me know what you come up? If the chimp can't fake his way through 5 years, I can't imagine Jeb coming across as dumb.

People really computer's weren't controlled in last election.

[liberaliraqvet26]

13. Lets concentrate on 2006 first...

we can take the house back and maybe the senate. Then we can expose Shrub & the pubs with hearings galore. This will lead us to run anyone & win in '08.

[Al-CIAda]

thread on 'ignore'. nt

[Vinca]

14. Based on the "computer skills" aspect,

no one can beat whatever Republican they decide they want crowned next. Without verified voting, we're essentially a dictatorship.

[Imagevision]

23. I totally agree!!

[DanCa]

15. A campaign of dynastys

The Bush Dynasty vs the Clinton Legacy. I really like senator clinton I just dont think she can crack the south plus she has too much of a voting trail. However I want to go on record saying that I will vote dem no maatter who is the candidate.

[The Stranger]

16. Beat him at what?

Race for President? Forget it.

She can't carry the Ohios and Floridas and other places on which the national election now turns.

[Imagevision]

24. Why should Hillary be safe with Fla.-Ohio Diebold's

is she,?...special?

same ole song - not who votes- it's who does the counting.

[BiggJawn]

18. No.

Go anywhere perople enjoy Rush Limbaugh or G. Gordon and yell "Clinton!"

Like throwing raw meat to hyenas.....

[DemInDistress]

19. Question....

Do you believe they'll be an election in 08'? A New Pearl Harbor attack will certainly bring Martial Law..Does anyone have infomation on MI6 agents caught trying to blow up the subway in Chicago on July 18 2005?..Tony Blair's MI-6 Agents Caught Trying To Blow Up Chicago Subwayhttp://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3388
.. French Intelligence and The U.S. Marshall Service Monday night July 18, 2005 caught eight of Tony Blair's British MI-6 Agents trying to bomb the Chicago Subway system. A shoot out killed 4 British Agents. Four were captured in the act of Terrorism and arrested. The British Agents part of Bush & Blair's Al Quaida network were charged in Federal Court today with explosives. The British MI-6 Terrorist Cell Operated out of Laidlaw Corp in Chicago. Chicago US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald served Tony Blair a subpoena in the CIA Valerie Plame case on July 13, 2005 to answer questions regarding his role in the leaks connected to George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Condi Rice, Andrew Card, Scooter Libby and Karl Rove. Tony Blair has not yet responded to his subpoena. George W. Bush has not responded to his subpoena either. Tony Blair had supplied George W. Bush with falsified British Intelligence stating that Iraq leader Saddum Hussein had obtained "Yellow Cake" Nuclear materials from Niger. This was the reason Bush gave to start the war in Iraq. This has all now been proven to be lies by Bush and Blair. CIA Valerie Plame's husband Ambassador Joseph Wilson submitted his report prior to the Bush-Blair lies that Niger never sold yellow cake to Iraq. Wilson came forth stating Bush lied in his State of the Union address to the nation. Valerie Plame's CIA Network was further investigating Bush & Cheney's orchestrated attack on America on 9-11-2001. New York Police Bernard Kerik who ran a FEMA operation out of pier 29 known as Code Angel also known as Tripod II planted the bombs on the 7 World Trade Center Building that were demolished on 9-11-2001. This operation was a US Justice Department operation involving Gary Best of Defense Intelligence Agency a George H. W. Bush Shadow Government Crony who is currently in Prison in the French Guinea for espionage against the French Government. Best has admitted to French Authorities of his 9-11 involvements. As I am writing this press release two more British MI-6 agents were arrested a few minutes ago details are forthcoming.

[JDPriestly]

20. No! Too much history! Too much animosity!

I like her in many ways, but I think it would be bad for the Democratic Party if she ran. Father and son is bad enough, but husband and wife, no. Plus, she' labeled as a liberal and is trying to look middle of the road, which will be made to look like a flip flop even though she always was middle of the road.

On the other hand, she is capable and smart, and people look on the Clinton years as good years -- but the Clintons will be blamed for everything that has gone wrong since Bush took office if she runs. You will hear no end of it.

[smoogatz]

21. No problem.

Bush fatigue has already kicked in with a majority of Americans--and W's the "smart" one. But Jeb won't be the Repubelicker nominee--how would Hillary do against the Giuliani/McCain ticket? Not so great, I'm guessing. '08 will be a test for the Republicans--will they insist on running a hard-right ideologue/PNAC wingnut (if they do, they lose big), or will they be pragmatic and nominate a relative moderate like Rudy? Hell, if Rudy ran as an Indy or a Dem, I'd think about voting for him.

[movonne]

22. Anyone voting Repub is down right stupid...do they want more

of this...or a dictatorship in this country...but we do have those pesky little voting machines.

[God Bless the USA]

25. NO- Need a fresh face to emerge

She is probably too polarizing to win. Although she has been making great strides in the last year to avoid appearing 'too liberal'.

It would probably do the party a world of good to get a fresh young face to carry the party into the future, ala JFK. I'm thinking someone like Evan Bayh from Indiana. Bush carried Indiana by 20pts in '04 but the GOP would certainly lose that state for the first time in about 50 years as Bayh is extremely popular there and I think would appeal to a lot of the swing voters in many key states.

[Oerdin]

26. Hillary is dead.

She polls poorly even among Democrats while she is down right despised by conservatives due to 13 years of slander & smear jobs by right wing radio. Centrists don't seem to like her much either.

In fact the only ones who seem to want her to run are right wing Republicans who know she'd be a fat tied up turkey for their Thanksgiving feast. She's DOA and everyone but the special interests who will get her nominated knows it.

[Kraklen]

28. No.

Even in a fair fight.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. Is Diebold getting a vote

how about Sequoia?

And this does not only apply to Senator Clinton, BTW

[JohnnyBoots]

30. Not a fucking chance....NASCAR dads will be sure

to vote for a bossy, yankee woman, their wives will most likely vote accordingly. Not to mention a lot of dems can't stand her DLC ass and would probably vote green or a third party. She would do the Dems a disservice by running

[Caleb]

31. YES

What's with all the Hillary bashing?