The Quaint & Antiquated World War Two Notion of Sacrifice During War

[mopaul]

whatever happened to that? it was before my time, but history shows that nations involved in the world war and had lost so many, made many sacrifices on the homefront, to support the men on the battle field.

recruitment was aggressive and volunteers were every where during world wars one and two. people grew victory gardens to save money, and recycled rubber and metals and pinched pennies and skipped the sunday drive, and just made sacrifices for the war effort.

i don't see any sacrifices going on except the soldiers, the enemy, and the innocent in iraq. bush certainly is making no sacrifices, and he'll never understand Cindy Sheehan's sacrifice cause she's not a republican voter, and he's a sociopath.

and most americans don't even realize there's a war going on, let alone make sacrifices of any kind. after 9/11, bush told america not to sacrifice but to go shopping and behave like good consumer/slaves. mr. bush uses the word sacrifice a lot, as in, "we grieve for the fallen who've made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms", but he's redefined the word. to him, sacrifice means, "i want a war, and you will sacrifice your sons and your selves cause i say so".

JUST LOOK at how many souls bush has sacrificed to MOLOCH while he was on vacation. just look at the hundreds of thousands of dead people laying in bush's wake. just look at the sacrifice you fucking maniac, LOOK AT IT before the god you profess to worship sends you to your ETERNAL PUNISHMENT.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. they learned from Viet Nam

that it is not a good idea to get the general public too involved in an illegal war. Hence, no call to sacrifice, and definately no draft.

[Hekate]

2. After 9-11 I actually hoped for him to say something presidential

...Something that would bring us together as a nation in a sense of shared sacrifice. Man, I was ready to plant a Victory Garden, slap solar panels on my house, join a Civil Defense group and roll bandages -- anything to feel like I was helping out my fellow citizens in NYC and share their burden.

If I were president, after 9-11 I would have used my executive powers to put solar panels on every federal building, just to make the point about energy independence from Middle Eastern oil. I would have made sure that the government set a good example to the citizens about energy efficiency, and would have made it easy for folks to retrofit their homes and cars.

Instead I was stunned to hear W tell us to go shopping; and later ram the message home by practically giving away giganzo gas guzzlers by letting people write them off for "business."

The only people sacrificing are the military troops and their families. They are sacrificing plenty, but aside from a few platitudes, their reward is to have right-wingers sneer that they have no right to complain because "they volunteered."

Hekate

[madinmaryland]

3. An excellent commentary on this by Mark Shields,

who himself grew up during WWII and is also a verteran.

..snip

WASHINGTON (Creators Syndicate) -- In his landmark book on the infantryman, "Mud Soldiers," George Wilson quoted Col. Steve Siegfried, a combat veteran, on why the United States must reinstate the military draft in wartime: "Armies don't fight wars. Countries fight wars. I hope to hell we learned that in Vietnam. ... A country fights a war. If it doesn't, then we shouldn't send an army."

The current war in Iraq is the first since the war with Mexico in 1846 that the United States has waged without a draft or tax increases.

War demands equality of sacrifice. Nobody knows that hard truth better than Jim Webb. Long before he was secretary of the navy in the Reagan administration, Webb was a 1968 graduate of the Naval Academy.

As a Marine platoon leader and company commander in Vietnam, he earned the Navy Cross, a Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, two Purple Hearts and, after multiple surgeries, a medical discharge.

..snip

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/08/08/sacrifice/index.html

No American has ever been asked to sacrifice for this war except for the soldiers fighting this illegal war.


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