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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:40 AM
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Santorum: Sheehan irresponsible - no right to meet with *
That's right. I was compelled to listen to the asshat on NPR this morning - he was asked about whether or not * should meet with Cindy. Choosing his words carefully (not) - he stated that there are others who have lost loved ones, others who aren't as irresponsible as Cindy who deserve to meet the president before she does.

He also managed to bash Peter Jennings (in reference to the liberal media) who once described Santorum as "ultra-conservative" - he doesn't understand why, Ted Kennedy isn't described as ultra-liberal.

The interview went on to discuss sexual impropriety and the constitutionality of such (Santorum claims his views are purely legal views). I laughed out loud at that one.

Surprisingly, instead of being angered by all of this, I got a kick out of it. The man is on the fringe and he doesn't even know it, so it's kinda like a comedy act. I just hope my kin in PA do the job and oust his sanctimonious ass.



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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:42 AM
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1. oh I wish there was a link to this swine's statement...
this needs to get spread far and wide in the blogs today!!

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:45 AM
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7. Got to www.npr.org...
and look for Morning Edition - Latest Show (assuming that was the show). You should be able to link to an audio link. I'm at work and they block NPR (go figure).
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:48 AM
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11. thanks, will do! nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:49 AM
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13. Thanks.
I was just looking for the link to post for the audio. For anyone who's interested, the interview is with Diane Rhem, and his comments are about 15 minutes into the show.
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:46 AM
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48. at last we finally got them talking about what we have to say
people will have to find out what he is referring to and then they find out what we are saying.

KL
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:42 AM
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2. It's not for nothing that his name has come to mean 'shit stain'...n/t
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:42 AM
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3. She doesn't want just to "meet" with the CIC, she wants him
to admit to his mistakes and lies... which isn't going to happen.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:43 AM
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4. Irresponsible? No right to meet the President?
When Santorum gives up the lives of his children for this irresponsible war, then maybe someone will listen to him.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:44 AM
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6. How quickly they forget that they work for us. nt
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:47 AM
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9. I'm seriously considering moving back to PA
just so I can vote against him. We still have a little cottage there. It would be easy to establish residence and vote.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:28 AM
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38. Why not?
After all, Santorum doesn't live in Pennsylvania either.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:49 AM
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14. The People Don't Have A Right To Meet With An Elected Official?
In which country, Ricky? In this country, the elected officials are responsible to the people. Remember those little things called elections? You better! You keep acting like this and the people of Penn. are going to bounce you down the road.

What a tool!.
The Professor
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:50 AM
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16. And this is coming from Mr. Sanctimonious when it comes to families.
He should exhalt Cindy for showing America how powerful a mother's love can be, and be ashamed that his and shrub's lies have brought such grief to so many families.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:58 AM
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22. He is a hypocrite
but then, we all know that :-).
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:43 AM
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5. The reason no one's described as ultra-liberal in Congress...
Is becasue there are no ultra-liberal congressmen. Last time I checked, no congressmen were calling themselves socialists, or (more importantly) pushing a socialist agenda.

But while no conservative congressmen call themselves fascists, plenty push anti-civil liberties, wildly pro-corporate legislation.

So there you have it. There ARE ultra-conservatives in Congress. There are NO ultra-liberals in Congress. If Santorum needs anything else explained, I'll be over here holding my breath ;)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:16 AM
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33. Bernie Sanders?
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:45 AM
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8. Digging his own grave ...

There comes a point when these idiots cease being infuriating and start being a joke, and I think Santorum has reached that point. I mean, there is something funny, in a grotesque sort of way, about watching a man willingly and with great enthusiasm dig his own grave.

Even a lot of conservatives I know are starting to refer to him as that guy peddling his book. He's on a marketing tour.

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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:48 AM
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10. Keep Quacking Rick
But you are a lame duck with a Chickenhawk heart.
As for Ted Kennedy - on the worst day of his life he was a better man than you'll ever be.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:48 AM
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12. DESERVE to meet him?
Oh Christ on a trailer hitch! Heaven forbid any commoners enter the forbidden city and seek an audience with the Boy King!



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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:50 AM
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15. More
He also said there's no way * could meet with every person who's lost someone in Iraq; it's just not feasible and he has to draw the line somewhere.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:51 AM
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17. It Seems He's Drawn The Line At; NONE!
The Professor
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:53 AM
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19. dead baby. Isin't he the one that brought home a dead baby
for his kids to commune with or something? link?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:10 AM
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27. Yup, slept with it in the bed. Sorta sick
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:12 AM
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28. WHAT?
I've never heard this. Do you have a link? That's one of the most revolting things I've ever heard.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:16 AM
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32. link, link....we need a link!!! nt.
k
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:16 AM
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34. see for yourself
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 10:19 AM by BlueEyedSon
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:21 AM
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35. The Santorum's miscarriage- AKA child abuse.
The childbirth in 1996 was a source of terrible heartbreak -- the couple were told by doctors early in the pregnancy that the baby Karen was carrying had a fatal defect and would survive only for a short time outside the womb. According to Karen Santorum's book, ''Letters to Gabriel: The True Story of Gabriel Michael Santorum,'' she later developed a life-threatening intrauterine infection and a fever that reached nearly 105 degrees. She went into labor when she was 20 weeks pregnant. After resisting at first, she allowed doctors to give her the drug Pitocin to speed the birth. Gabriel lived just two hours.

What happened after the death is a kind of snapshot of a cultural divide. Some would find it discomforting, strange, even ghoulish -- others brave and deeply spiritual. Rick and Karen Santorum would not let the morgue take the corpse of their newborn; they slept that night in the hospital with their lifeless baby between them. The next day, they took him home. ''Your siblings could not have been more excited about you!'' Karen writes in the book, which takes the form of letters to Gabriel, mostly while he is in utero. ''Elizabeth and Johnny held you with so much love and tenderness. Elizabeth proudly announced to everyone as she cuddled you, 'This is my baby brother, Gabriel; he is an angel.'
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:29 AM
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39. I hate Santorum and what he stands for with every fiber of my being
but I can't knock how someone grieves the loss of a child. That is personal and however they choose to do is "the right way".
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:39 AM
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45. Hmmm
Not something I would do; just a bit morbid. Although I can't stand Santorum, it was his child and I can't fault him for how he and his family choose to mourn.

That said though - why write a book about it?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:52 AM
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18. Ted Kennedy IS described as ultra-liberal.
How many times did I hear, "Kerry is the only Senator who leans further left than Ted Kennedy," in the weeks leading up to the election? :eyes: What a moran!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:56 AM
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20. I Love When They Have To Respond. Just Proof That She Is Getting The Job
DONE!

Suck on it Rick!

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:57 AM
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21. MORE
Santorum sez intelligent design is SCIENTIFIC theory. lol. (of course he has no evidence to back it up). It's counterintuitive to believe in evolution, it's a leap of faith to believe that complex cell structure happened through chance. :rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:59 AM
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23. it takes a family, .... to diss a mother who lost a son n/t
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:10 AM
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26. ooooooh, NICE! nt
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:02 AM
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24. Two questions for our good Pennsylvania neighbors
1) How in hell did this nutcase ever win an election in your state, and:

2) When are y'all going to send this guy packing?

Sheesh, he's such an idiotic embarrassment!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:06 AM
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25. Answers I've heard*
he fooled them with his smile and easygoing manner. Santorum didn't reveal his true self until he was elected.

He'll be gone in 2006, at this point he's an embarrassment to the state of Pennsylvania.

*word of mouth, family members.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:24 AM
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36. Exactly.
He ran as someone who would keep the Heinz legacy going (moderate, fiscally responsible, PA first) and once in office he went off the deep end.

Never voted for him, not my fault :P

I did vote for Heinz and Specter in the 80's when they stood up to Raygun and voted for $$ for the state. That ended when Heinz died and Arlen did a job on Anita Hill.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:13 AM
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30. PA elections are always a battle between the "liberal" cities...
and the RW rural/small towns. As the old joke goes: "I didn't know that Alabama was located between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia".
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:16 AM
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31. Usually.
I think it'll be different in 2006. My parents are in rural PA - right in the middle of da Burgh and Philly. The climate is not good; they're fed up with * too.

And that joke - ugh. Someone from that part of the country might take offense. ;-)
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:26 AM
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37. I now live in Pittsburgh, but I'm from Johnstown...
and, while all my friends from Johnstown are and were quite liberal, the majority opinion was quite reactionary.

When I went to high school, there were 2 mixed race students and 0 blacks in a class of 800 students. I suppose de facto segregation was common in the North at that time, but I doubt it was to that extent.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:31 AM
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42. Sounds just like me -
I grew up in Altoona - 1 black student in a class of about 1000. We did have a rather large Jewish community though, and those that I knew were liberals.

The majority of folks in Altoona were blue collar skilled workers (at least when I was a kid); railroad, manufacturing. I would say the single most deciding factor on how they vote, at least from my perspective, is gun rights. It's what makes most of them vote Republican.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:39 AM
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47. In 1970, a small store opened on Market St. that sold bell-bottomed jeans,
fringed leather jackets, etc. I swear, front page in the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat, with pictures, read:

"Hippies Invade Johnstown".
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:54 AM
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49. lol!
How funny! Reactionary - yep. Still that way unfortunately. :hi:
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:13 AM
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29. He really has become ...
... the poster child for mental instability.
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:29 AM
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40. "Compassionate conservatism" at work...
He says others who have lost loved ones aren't as "irresponsible" as Cindy and deserve to meet Bush before she does. Irresponsible? Translation = those who support Bush's position on Iraq "deserve" to meet with him, those who don't can go screw off.

What an incredibly offensive statement to make about a grieving mother who lost a child in combat. Its mind-blowing, really, that an elected official would say something so cold, callous and insensitive.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:30 AM
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41. Isn't ultra-liberal on the way to socialism/communism?
Just a question.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:33 AM
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43. How is she irresponsible?! Let's demand an answer from Santorum!
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:38 AM
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44. Santorum is an embarrassment.
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 10:46 AM by Dulcinea
Speak no ill of the dead, pRick.

Bad form. People don't like that.

I can hardly wait until he falls...HARD.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:39 AM
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46. To Booze Saint: Sit thee on a spit thou fool - born canker blossom
Well, I feel better.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:55 AM
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50. Santorum is a human stain-maybe not even human actually.
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