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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:14 PM
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Good News: The Sheehan story IS spreading
I spoke to my sister over lunch today and I used her as a test subject. A little bit of background: My sister is in her late 20s, she's a high school teacher (which means right now she's a stay-at-home mom), she lives in a tiny town in western Iowa. She voted for Clinton, Gore, and Kerry, but is otherwise completely politically inactive. She doesn't get her news from the internet beyond her Yahoo homepage and maybe cnn.com. Here's how the conversation went:

Me: Did you hear about that woman in Crawford? (I was being purposefully vague)
Sister: What?
Me: The woman that's camping out in Crawford.
Sister: OMG, YES! Is that the woman whose son was killed in Iraq?
Me: Yeah.
Sister: Yeah! And when she met with him before he didn't even know her son's name? Like, he came into the room and said "who're we honoring today" or something? OMG.
Me: Yup, that's her...
Sister: And now she wants to talk to him again right?
Me: Yeah, but he won't talk to her.
Sister: Well no kidding, he's got one pissed off mom after him! I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't blame her. If that bastard killed my son...well, I already hate him, but god, what a jackass.
Me: Well, the interesting thing is that she wasn't an activist before this. She like, went down there all by herself.
Sister: Really?
Me: Yeah. She just wanted to talk to him. Of course, lots of Dem groups are supporting her now!
Sister: Good!
Me: Did you hear that Bush threatened to arrest her?
Sister: WHAT?!
Me: Apparently she's a threat to national security.
Sister: Holy crap, what a bastard.

Etc...anyway, she KNEW about it. Sure, obviously not all the details, but she knew what I meant by "that woman in Crawford" and her only source of news is completely MSM. It's spreading. :applause: :woohoo:
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:17 PM
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1. Kick and
love your pics in the sig.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:17 PM
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2. This is great. n/t
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:19 PM
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3. Don't want to be a party pooper but
the key phrase is "I already hate him"
Chickenhawks who don't "already hate him" will spew the usual crap about the troops who knew what they signed up for etc. The right-wing hate machine is working overtime to shit all over Cindy...

After what they did to american soldiers like McCain, Kerry, or Hackett... No surprises there

:grr:
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:22 PM
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4. Yes, she does already hate him
but the point is, she KNEW about it. She only hears news from MSM sources and somehow, she heard about it. I'm not claiming that Cindy converted her.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:23 PM
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5. yehbut...
the POINT is that even people who are not obsessed like WE are have heard about this. Get it?
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:24 PM
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6. Yes, that was the point!
Thank you. :yourock:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:25 PM
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:26 PM
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8. Perhaps you should read a few more threads
She didn't "change" her story. George Bush changed his.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:27 PM
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9. She changed her opinion when the facts came to light
Enjoy your stay.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:33 PM
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14. Welcome to DU, but you are wrong
Unsavory so called "News" outlets changed
her story by cherry picking bits and pieces
and presenting them in a distorted version
of reality. She has been consistent in her stance from
the beginning.
In case you have not been paying attention,
this method of distorting and editing the truth
to discredit anyone who dares to question the
illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq for
corporate profits by using and abusing our military
men and women, is the standard operating procedure
of the liars, thieves and jackboots who have lied
this country into an UNjust war.
Welcome to DU, stick around and maybe you'll
learn some truth.
Oh, and we highly recommend that you stop watching
Fox news, it is the first step in your recovery from
corporate brainwashing.
BHN
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:34 PM
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15. Fact of matter is... She did NOT changed her story!!!
MSM spin the story! You really need to do more reading.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:49 PM
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23. Aw foo, I missed it
Mods are on the ball!
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:08 PM
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28. Know the feeling
I always miss those posts! Mods are too quick

:thumbsup:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:28 PM
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10. cool!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:28 PM
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11. Good keep it going!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:29 PM
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12. Good!!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:32 PM
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13. Excellent. So many people have been working to spread the story.
I have read abouyt flyers going up in coffee houses and people sending postcard through the mail with the information.

I wrote an informational email that I've sent out all over. If you'd like it, PM me.
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4296146>



P.S. Don't you love how freepers come over here and even bother? They always look so stupid.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:35 PM
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16. Thanks!
Check your PM. :)

And yes, I was amused by the above poster. Like, could they at least TRY to blend in? LOL
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:39 PM
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17. Always Love Good News! Kick And Nomination!
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:41 PM
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18. OMG, my first nomination!
Thank you. :) I'm glad I could supply some good news.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:45 PM
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20. That Would Make This Your First Greatest Page Post! Congrats!
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 01:46 PM by DistressedAmerican
Go Click The GREATEST Link And Enjoy!:toast:
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:46 PM
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21. Wow, that's too cool
I am totally feelin' the love. :grouphug:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:49 PM
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24. I Just Noticed You've Got That Hottie C.J. Craig In You Sig.
NOW, there's a press secretary! Kicks ass and takes names!

Scotty should try watching some West Wing!

Kudos!
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:52 PM
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25. Of course CJ has to deal with an actual press corps
you know, one that asks relevant, hard questions? Too bad they're fictional. Scotty wouldn't know what hit him if his job was like a West Wing script.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:43 PM
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19. I nominated, also. (vote #4)
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:46 PM
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22. That's awesome... I've been meaning to call my parents...
They're in the same boat... would be a good gauge of how far reaching the story is...
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:58 PM
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26. My mom heard and had plenty of opinions about it herself
This is significant bcs my mom is very much of a "don't tell me I don't want to know" type of person and she has known nothing abour virtually anything we discuss here. Her bottom line was she didn't understand why Bush couldn't at least talk to her now.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:04 PM
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27. See, that's what I'm talking about.
:)Great story! And welcome to DU.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:11 PM
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31. Camp casey flooded
Dont know where else to put this so I just want everyone to know I just got an email from the Crawford peace house and the camp has flooded and the supplies are soaked,Cindy has been moved,she is sick with a sore throat and running a fever.Anyone who can help salvage the camp please go right away,they need all the help they can get
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:09 PM
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29. Exactly! My 7 yr old son...
...said yesterday, "But if he's on vacation, then he's not working THAT hard... why can't he go talk to her? That's so rude!" and scowled! lol

I told him I totally agreed... Think I'll go call my mom right now... :)
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:37 PM
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38. Very smart kid!
You must be doing something right with him! That's too cute.
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:10 PM
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30. That is good news!

I filled my boss in when I asked for PTO again today to head to Texas. He asked me what for, I said to support Cindy Sheehan the mom who wants questions answered from Bush.

He kinda went into his :wtf: face and said where do you get this stuff? Then he did a search and is all on the know now, still won't give me PTO :(
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:45 PM
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32. Kicker!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:53 PM
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33. i did a similar test with my boss
My boss is a mother of a 5 year old and has a very busy schedule. So she has to rely on MSM. She knew of the story and when I said that they might arrest her tomrrow, my boss just shook her head and said unbelievable.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 07:51 PM
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34. Just talked to my mom today and she knew all about Cindy!
My mom doesn't get a newspaper, but watches TV news (usually CBS) and not only knew about Cindy, but was SO mad that Bush wouldn't talk to her! Not only that, when I told her about the possibility of Cindy being arrested she was outraged! So the msg is DEFINITELY getting out there...

BTW - My mom and I were talking about how the Repugs bill themselves as the 'party that supports vets', and my mom said "What a load of bull..." She then proceeded to tell me about thousands of WWI vets who protested and camped out in DC about pay they were owed, who were beaten down by none other than Douglas MacArthur! I was like, wtf? Are you sure about this, mom? I went online, and sure enough, Wikipedia has info on it.

They were called the 'Bonus Army'. excerpt from Wikipedia: "The marchers were cleared and their camps were destroyed by federal cavalry troops under the command of General Douglas MacArthur, in a possible violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. MacArthur claims he was ordered by the president to remove the veterans, but no such letter was ever sent. This is debatable since the incident took place in federal territory rather than state lands. Dwight D. Eisenhower, as a member of MacArthur's staff, had strong reservations about the operation, and George Patton was also ordered to take part in the operation. Tanks and troops with rifles and 2,500 tear gas cannisters were sent into the Bonus Expeditionary Force's camps. President Hoover did not want the army to march across the Anacostia River, but Douglas MacArthur felt this was a communist attempt to overthow the government. Hundreds of veterans were injured, several were killed, including William Hushka and Eric Carlson, a wife of a veteran miscarried, and other such casualties were inflicted. The army burned down the BEF's tents and used tear gas. "

Aren't moms great?! The things you learn...
GO CINDY!!!
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:36 PM
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37. Yay!!
That's totally awesome that she knew about it.

I talked to my mom about it too. Unfortunately, since all she watches is Fox "news" (yes, she's a republican, don't ask), she thinks Cindy's been brainwashed by Michael Moore. But hey, she did know about it. :eyes:
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 07:53 PM
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35. Kick!
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 07:54 PM
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36. CBS mentioned the vigil tonight!
suck on that Georgie.
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