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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:25 PM
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"Stability is an unworthy American mission" - Michael Ledeen
Catastrophic of neoconservatives in Iraq

August 10, 2005

In his speech on June 28, President George W. Bush accurately characterized the situation in Iraq as “horrifying, and the suffering is real.” Previously, Bush had described the invasion of Iraq as a “catastrophic success.” Foreign affairs analysts agree that in both cases, Bush accurately captured the reality of the Iraqi mess, but were equally surprised by his insistence on staying the course. The fear is that Iraqi hardship and bloodshed may be deepened and reversing the state of disorder is a remote possibility. Three recent developments in the Iraqi political arena reaffirm the growing fear: US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld predicts that the mess in Iraq could go on for 12 years, The New York Times reported (June 30) that a type of federalism is supported by Washington, where each region in Iraq gains power approaching true sovereignty, and Zalamy Khalilzad assumed his position as the American ambassador in Baghdad. The last two developments are interrelated and are certain to turn the transformation of Iraq into a bloody mess.

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Critics and political commentators agree that the neoconservatives are obsessed with a grand design to militarise the globe and globalise fear. Knowledgeable observers, however, acknowledge that the core of the neoconservatives' thinking revolves around the Middle East and the role of Israel. Unlike Bush, the neoconservatives harbour the belief that freedom for the Arab people, prosperity, and cultural renaissance are a threat to Israeli security and vitality. It is for this reason that neoconservatives make a powerful argument for creating instability and chaos in the Middle East. This was well expressed by Michael Ledeen, former US undersecretary of state and a leading neoconservative, when he stated: “Stability is an unworthy American mission, and a misleading concept to boot. We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and even Saudi Arabia; we want things to change. The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilise.”


http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2005%20Opinion%20Editorials/August/10%20o/The%20triumph%20of%20neoconservatives%20in%20Iraq%20By%20Abbas%20J%20Ali.htm


This is why Bush is so happy all the time. This is the kind of wacko thinking that has taken over our government. The genocide of Iraq is going exactly according to plan.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:34 PM
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1. i doubt if neocons would ever cop to creating
instability as a goal for the survival of israel.

but there is the self evidense on the ground. iraq is a mess.
bolton goes to the u.n. -- iran is a mess.
saudia arabia remains unable to clear al quaeda from it's borders -- it is a saudi home grown movement after all.

lebanon is less stable than it has been in several years.
syria stands shoulder to shoulder with iran.

egypt is being pressured to open up elections -- which no one really wants because of the flood of religous fanatics that will come into government.

it's all so pretty isn't it?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:36 PM
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2. The above is a direct quote
from a Neocon.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:58 PM
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10. A neocon
of significant influence, in fact.
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Doo_Revolution Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:38 PM
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3. Totally insane, whacky, corporatists....
The Israeli-led PNAC coalition are completely out of their minds dictators bent on taking every single sop of oil for themselves.

General Kevin P. Byrnes has been relieved of command.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--armygeneralreliev0809aug09,0,2729727.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

I hope Michael Ledeen has a really nice place tucked away for him in prison, for all the bullshit false propaganda he has siphoned and the USA documents he has leaked to Israel.......
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:48 PM
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6. I hope that the Franklin case and the Plame investigation
will be their undoing. In the meantime, they are now at their most dangerous. The darkness and corruption of these people knows no bounds.



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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:42 PM
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4. OH!!!! I am so glad you posted this. People do NOT understand,...
,...the freakishness of this regime. NO MORE DENIAL!!!!!

This regime is sick and capable of horror folks simply will NOT comprehend.

Please, please,...people,...get a grip on the BushCO/neoCON regime's blind ambition towards total destruction,...and accept it. This is serious, serious human evil we are facing/confronting. Face it.
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Doo_Revolution Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:49 PM
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7. Sirs and Madams, I. Lewis Libby has no loyalty to the United States.....
He is a branching officer of a led Israeli government trifecta benefitted by Michael Ledeen and his own personal friends:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/1300

"In the 1980’s, the Reagan administration had their own problems with radical Islam and the Middle East. So National Security Adviser John Poindexter decided to launch a disinformation campaign against a representative of that religion, namely Muammar Gaddafi of Libya. Nine years into her tenure at the Times, in 1986, Miller participated in Poindexter’s massive campaign of discreditation. According to Bob Woodward — who should know — Miller agreed to plant Poindexter’s propaganda in her own columns. She wrote that Gaddafi was in danger of being overthrown from within, that he was mentally imbalanced, was a drug addict, and had even come on to her sexually but quickly cooled when she told him she was Jewish. Then, at the time of Gulf War I, she co-authored two books about Hussein. One was on germ warfare, which has always held an odd attraction for her. The other was a biography of Hussein which was co-authored with Laurie Mylroie — which tells us a lot.

In 2000 Mylroie published a clear black propaganda tome called Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein’s Unfinished War Against America. The book was published by the American Enterprise Institute. In the acknowledgements, Mylroie thanks John Bolton, Lewis Libby, Paul Wolfowitz and his ex-wife. Richard Perle wrote a blurb for it saying the book was “splendid and wholly convincing.” This book supplied the figleaf for the neocon idea that Hussein was the world mastermind of terror. Mylroie blamed Iraq for every anti-American terrorist act of the last decade: even the Oklahoma City bombing. As Peter Bergen wrote in Washington Monthly (December 2003), “she is, in short, a crackpot.” Then, after 9/11, when Perle and others mustered a huge PR campaign to convince the public that Hussein had something to do with the hijackings, Miller and Mylroie were both associated with Eleana Benador, the huge public relations firm that partly handled that mass brainwashing effort. As part of this campaign, Dick Cheney made a speech on August 26, 2002 denouncing Hussein’s efforts to gain chemical and biological weapons. A few days later, Miller co-wrote an article for the Times which first set out the whole “aluminum tubes as centrifuges” myth which was used as a prop for the ersatz nuclear arsenal Hussein was building. The same day Miller’s article appeared, Cheney was on “Meet the Press” and mentioned her story, giving credit to the Times for a scoop.

But it was after the war, in the search for the non-existent WMD, that Miller’s true identity came through: in the Washington Post (June 25, 2003), Howard Kurtz wrote that Miller was embedded with the Pentagon’s MET Alpha group which was the team sent to hunt down the WMD. Donald Rumsfeld himself signed off on this assignment for Miller. One officer said she almost ended up “hijacking the mission.” How? By threatening to go to Rumsfeld or the Times if she did not get her way in the search. She was even allowed to sit in on the interrogation of Hussein’s son-in-law. At the end of the mission, she was at the ceremony to promote the warrant officer of MET Alpha, one Richard Gonzalez. She even pinned the new bars on his uniform. "


The largest American traitors you have ever seen...Cheney has aided them, at the price of getting his own money out of the deal for some time.

The Project For New American Century is absolutely a dispicable, oil-hungry dictatorship of crazed men.

http://www.newamericancentury.org

Because they are now fully exposed with the limelight, they are solidifying and accelerating all their plans.

If any Americans would dare stand in the way, they will be shuffled aside, or become a casuality. That is what we have here. A war within this country with outside forces of evil.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:43 PM
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5. remember that Ledeen is openly fascist, and in the AEI
This is to be expected.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:52 PM
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8. Yes, Ledeen has some sort of belief in creative desctruction
It goes along with the neo-fascism. I can't even begin to explain it, but it's some sort of whacked-out faith in the purifying powers of kicking shit to pieces. :shrug:
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Doo_Revolution Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:56 PM
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9. See above post...
WLI, this has been mounting for a while.
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