I'm so ashamed

[Horse with no Name]

I just finished watching Hotel Rwanda and cannot understand that we will intervene in Iraq but refused to intervene there?:cry:

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. We only go to special places. Didn't you know that?

[Duer 157099]

2. I know, that's how I felt too

I recently also saw it. Now you should get the Frontline documentary called "Ghosts of Rwanda" (Netflix)

[Must_B_Free]

3. think "smallpox blankets"

[noahmijo]

4. Sadly that's just ONE

What about China where they take female babies and toss them down waterfalls because they feel that there are not enough males and too many females?

What about what happens in Sudan, Somalia, North Korea, Guatamala..hell even the crimes committed right here on our own soil...

[NaturalHigh]

5. I still haven't watched it.

I've heard that it's pretty intense.

[cry baby]

6. Powerful story, isn't it...

[Horse with no Name]

12. Yes.

Paul Rusesabagina was a hero.
Truly.

[mcctatas]

7. Not only would we not intervene...

we (the UN included) wouldn't let Peacekeepers already there use force to protect the victims...of course, they didn't have any of our oil under their land.....:mad: :wtf:

[madeline_con]

15. Actually they have mines...

that Halliburton and Brown& Root were into. Check out my other post in this thread.

[Skwmom]

17. The French buried around 10,000 in a mass grave and built a volleyball

court on top. French soldiers were stationed in a few places around Rwanda. The people went to where the French soldiers were housed, thinking they would be saved. Instead, thousands were slaughtered and buried in mass graves.

[mcctatas]

19. Didn't the UN say that they could not give orders in time to stop the

massacre? I vaguely remember my poli-sci prof saying something along those lines, also that since the UN mission was peace keeping, intervention would have constituted Peace-enforcement and therefor not allowable under the mission statement? Whatever the reasons were, I sincerely believe NOTHING excuses our lack of action!!!

[Pirate Smile]

8. I know Clinton has said that is his biggest regret and has apologized to

the Rwanda people. He has been back there and someone (I think it was Joe Conason)said the people seem to love him - one reason is that he is the only one who has ever apologized for what happened.

I think Conason told this story on Al Franken's show last week. He went with Clinton to Africa a couple of weeks ago.

[Horse with no Name]

9. It should be his biggest regret

My respect for him dropped immensely after seeing this tonight.

[Skwmom]

10. Clinton apologizes AFTER Hotel Rwanda is released and

when his wife is planning an 08 run. The apology seems to be purely for the benefit of Clinton.

[applegrove]

11. Yup. And it was a simple war to solve. The bandits only had macheties

and were terrified of guns. Their army just sat by. A small invasion force with guns could have stopped that really quick.

[Skwmom]

13. Clark drew up plans for the US to stop the genocide in Rwanda.

Of course, it was all for not because Clinton wouldn't intervene. On 60 minutes Clark stated that he pushed to intervene in Bosnia because he could not let another Rwanda happen.

[madeline_con]

14. "... refused to intervene there?"

Refused? We were all over it. We CAUSED it.

"In 1998, while I was in Rwanda conducting research for my book, Genocide and Covert Operations in Africa 1993-1999 (Edwin Mellen, 1999), a number of U.S. military personnel assigned to that country raised questions about Brown & Root's activities. "Brown & Root is into some real bad shit," one told me. The U.S. Army Materiel Command has confirmed that Brown & Root was in Rwanda under contract with the Pentagon. One U.S. Navy demining expert told me that Brown & Root helped Rwanda's U.S.-backed government fight a guerrilla war. Brown & Root's official task was to help clear mines. However, my research showed it was more involved in providing covert military support to the Tutsi-led Rwanda Patriotic Army in putting down a Hutu insurgency and assisting its invasion of the neighboring Democratic Republic of the Congo (Cheney and Halliburton declined numerous opportunities to comment on this story.)"

Wayne Madsen of The Progressive

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Covert action in Africa exposed

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Western corporations are aware that revenues from mineral exploitation received by African countries involved in war are used to purchase military equipment. Considering the history of a strong U.S.-led corporate presence in Africa, it is quite likely that U.S. mining interests have benefited from the war, concluded the panel.

This may also explain the interest of American Mineral Fields International (AMF), which, according to Mr. Snow, is a classic case of cronyism. The company secured a $1 billion mining deal for cobalt and copper before Laurent Kabila came into power. According to Mr. Snow, the deal was secured through a shared interest; namely Pres. Clinton. AMF's chairman at the time of the deal was Mike McMurrough, a native of Mr.Clinton's hometown of Hope, Arkansas. Mr. Snow also alleged that Mr. Clinton has financial interest in AMF. Former Pres. George Bush Sr. was also cited at the hearing for his advisory board membership at Barrick Gold, Ltd., for which he used his connections with the CIA, having once been director of the spy agency.

http://www.trinicenter.com/WorldNews/apr262001.htm


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Rwanda's Secret War
US-Backed Destabilization of Central Africa
By Keith Harmon Snow*

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/congo/2004/1210secretwar.htm

[Horse with no Name]

16. Wow.

Fucking wow.

[Miss Chybil]

18. I can't watch that movie. They don't have oil in Rwanda, do they? nt

[Maru Kitteh]

20. It's very simple and you already know why n/t.