Response to freepers about Casey joining voluntarily

[Horse with no Name]

I have searched the archives because I posted on this months ago, but I can't find it. So one of you better archive searchers might have a little more luck.
MSNBC had Cindy on Connected Coast to Coast with her story. They rebutted her with General Patton's granddaughter.
It was a viscious attack on her. One of the statements that stood out to me though was when General Patton's granddaughter made the comment to Cindy that he (Casey) died doing what he loved.
Cindy was so great because she said that no he didn't.
When Casey went in the army, he wanted to be a chaplain. He was promised that he would be one. That is why he joined. However, once he was in, they said there wasn't a need for chaplains and therefore they assigned him as a humvee mechanic. So he DIDN'T die doing what he loved, nor did they allow him to do what they promised him. Everything they did was a lie. Down to the evidence of why the war was started.
Can you BLAME this mother for being angry since her son was lied to personally from the start and the lies killed him?

[Midlodemocrat]

1. Wow. What a great find. Thanks for posting that.

That should shut those assholes up once and for all.

[tk2kewl]

2. bottom line on this bullshit freeper argument

they volunteered to defend the country and the Constitution.

this is a illegal (violates Geneva and therefor the Constitution of the US) war against a nation that posed no legitimate threat to the US.

[jody]

3. Minor point but he could not have been a "chaplain". He could have

been a "chaplain's assistant".
:hi:

[Horse with no Name]

6. You are probably correct--Thank you.

It's been several months since I watched the interview and I didn't remember the exact details.
Sure wish I could find the archived story.
:hi:

[jobycom]

4. Anyone hear the Randi Rhodes caller a while back who lost two sons

He claimed that after 9-11 his sons joined up out of patriotism to go to Afghanistan and fight terrorism. Instead, they sent both sons to Iraq, and both were killed. He was angry because they had volunteered for patriotic reasons but were used for Bush's political and personal vendetta.

The thing is, our troops volunteer to serve America. They watch out for us. Our duty in return is to watch out for them. To make sure they are not sent to kill and die for nothing, but only when the interests of the nation are at stake. That's how you support the troops.

Republicans failed them. Again.

[MalibuChloe]

11. this kind of thing happens a lot

a friend of mine joined the navy to be a hospital corpsman. during boot camp, they took everyone into an office (individually) and asked them a series of questions. one of them was "have you ever smoked pot?" she said yes. they asked how many times approximately. she said 4. they said, "oh. when we asked you that before you joined, you said 3." and they told her that 4 was considered "beyond the experimental phase" and deemed her unfit to work in the medical field. she became a postal clerk.

the point is, they lie. and they take advantage of the poorest and most vulnerable kids in this country. sometimes the kids live through it. sometimes they don't.

[Spike from MN]

15. Exactly. The troops have a duty to serve once they sign on

the dotted line but the country also has a duty to the troops. They should not put them into harms way unless it is absolutely necessary to DEFEND the country. The troops have no obligation to serve in an illegal war. We have an obligaton to them to make sure that they aren't forced to do so. We need to stop this war and bring them home before more of them die needlessly because of Bush's lies.

[Patchuli]

5. First off

who gives a shit whose granddaughter that woman is? Does that make her a military expert? NOoooooooo....

Secondly, even if Casey did volunteer, I'm sure it was with the thought to fight in a legitimate war, not this tragic excuse for corporate America and the rich bastards to fatten their wallets further at the expense of our young people!

Shut up Patton's granddaughter! No one cares what you think! BTW, how old is she? If she supports the Iraq occupation, why doesn't SHE go?

[wake.up.america]

7. So what does it matter???!!!! He was lied to as everyone else.

This has to be friggin' stupid on the part of the freepers.

Her precious was killed in an inexcusable war, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why cannot these morons accept the fact that BUSH IS A LYING SOB. The fact is irrefutable kids are dying because BUSH LIED.

Boy, am I angry.

These people who want to dissect her son's motives make me ill.

[Spike from MN]

8. When was she on Connected Coast to Coast?

I thought MSRNC cancelled her appearance. At least, that's what I read here a couple of days ago.

[Horse with no Name]

10. This interview was several months ago

before the Crawford thing ever came up.

[whistle]

9. General Patton's granddaughter, uhmmm.....

....well her grandfather certainly didn't die doing what he loved, which was to be engaged in battle with an enemy. He died in an automobile accident. If Gen Patton were there in that interview when his granddaughter made that statement, he would have probably slapped her with his gloves!

[HockeyMom]

12. I can very much understand that

My daughter wanted to enlist as an MP. They "promised" her that she would be. This was long before Iraq. Both my husband (a Vet) and I said she should get them to put it in WRITING. My husband had them put it in writing (specific job) when he enlisted in the Air Force during Nam. They hemmed and hawed and ultimately refused to put it in writing. So, my daughter refused to sign up.

[xchrom]

13. where are the weapons of mass destruction?

and we already know that it was a lie that boxed in, bombed for slightest twitch iraq, could have been hiding weapons from the intelligence community.
so it was on purpose that bushco/blair ''sexed up'' all the evidence for their illegal war.

our troops weren't then and aren't now defending us.
iraq was not then nor is it now a threat to the united states.

there is no honour -- no glory in this military debacle -- just a bunch of dead, maimed and wounded people -- waiting for the worst of the civil war to come when the u.s. leaves.

[Solly Mack]

14. I don't care if they did join voluntarily...they didn't join to be lied to

or to be sent off on illegal wars...

Blaming the soldiers for joining is removing the blame from the government that LIED to them and the rest of the nation.

It truly shows just what is important to some people....they don't care that their government lies.

[Kerrytravelers]

16. Casey, along with many other military people, were opposed to

invading Iraq to pad *'s personal pockets.