Shocking NY-Sen Poll: Hillary re-election mark at 50%

[yankeefanatic3]

In a poll conducted Tuesday night on the 2006 race for U.S. Senate in New York, Clinton receives the support of 50 percent of registered voters compared with 28 percent for Pirro. More than one in five voters are not taking sides, a significant increase from a similar poll conducted in April.

You can take a look at the poll here - http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4837438/detail.html

Granted, Pirro is trailing a lot, but Clinton's support has just plummeted!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE that we need to fight to win elections in NY, Maine, and Rhode Island. it is unreal to me. I cannot believe it.

[EnfantTerrible]

1. Upstate NY is conservative

It's not all progressive like NYC.

[yankeefanatic3]

4. I know, but the fact that

Hillary's support tanked from 64% to 50% in just a month is a red flag raised for me. Granted Pirro got a slight bounce because she actually announced her candidacy, 4%, but that means NY voters are actually considering voting for her...and that is not good at all.

[Guaranteed]

2. It's called "the media."

It also doesn't help that Senator Clinton refuses to show leadership for our side.

[montanacowboy]

3. THAT IS NO SURPRISE

SHE IS A DLC CENTRIST THROUGH AND THROUGH- SHE LOVES THE WAR AND EVERYTHING REPUKE

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO BE REPUKE LIGHT - PEOPLE OF NY ARE NOT STUPID - THEY WANT THEIR CONCERNS AIRED, NOT THOSE OF AN ELITIST CABAL WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

[yankeefanatic3]

5. DoNY voters want a "moderate" voting for

McConnell as majority leader in 07 or a moderate voting for Harry Reid. Take their pick. Wake up america.

[Talismom]

7. This broad from the Bronx says right on montanacowboy! n/t

[montanacowboy]

18. THANKS BROAD FROMTHE BRONX

I used to be solid Cllinton supporters, I even met Bill and spent and afternoon with him while he was campaigning. But since this sickening love fest with not only Hillary but Bill as well, with his nose up old man Bush's ass most of the time, they truly disgust me. They both are opportunists of the first magnitude - you can all flame me for this, but the Progressive Wing of the Democratic Party does not need either one of these people, believe me.

[Talismom]

34. I'm getting used to getting flamed for saying things like this, but the

freaking DLC is gonna be the death of the dems. if people don't watch out! I'm one of those who considers them to be repuke wannabees and I don't want to vote for any of them!

[Nite Owl]

6. Her move to the middle

is phoney and there's nothing a NYer likes less than that.

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Here in Maine, believe it.

[nyhuskyfan]

9. Nothing new...

George Pataki has been a Republican governor of New York State for a while. Guiliani and Bloomberg have been Republican mayors of NYC. D'Amato was a Republican senator in New York for a while. Even Massachusetts has had a republican governor.

The blue states will almost always go blue in presedential elections (1984 being an exception), but there are no guarantees for the governor and senator elections.

[yankeefanatic3]

23. I could never believe it n/t

[DistressedAmerican]

10. I'm In State And I WILL NOT Vote For Her. She Has Sold The Left Out.

Her endless poandering to the DLC, appeaser crowd sickens me. I will be voting for a third party candidate this year.

Hell she even refused to sign onto the DSM letter written by Kerry. That is spineless and I hate her for it.

[yankeefanatic3]

16. Well, I don't mean to tell you who to vote for, but...

if honestly her re-election mark gets this low come 2006 are you sure you would risk it?

[DistressedAmerican]

30. I WILL Not Vote For Her. She Does Not Represent Me.

I have written her on many issues and every one she went the other way. She is not my representative. Won't compromise again.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

19. Same thing with me Distressed. There is no way on this earth that

I will ever pull another lever for her. She is a sellout and a political whore.

[BillZBubb]

11. Relax!

Senator Clinton will win in a landslide. Polls this early mean nothing. New Yorkers aren't dumb--aside from supporting Pataki and Giuliani.

[DistressedAmerican]

13. Yeah, We're Not. That Is Why Her Numbers Are Plummeting.

She is a phony, sell out all the way. We are not putting up wioth this crap anymore.

[geek tragedy]

12. Link? eom

[kikiek]

14. Link to poll?

[yankeefanatic3]

20. HERE IS THE LINK TO THE POLL

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/4837438/detail.html

Will post on topic too

[kikiek]

24. Sounds premature to me with her approval rating remaining unchanged.

Sounds like she is kicking ass.

[yankeefanatic3]

25. True

I figured it would change the dynamics some what because Pirro is actually an announced candidate now, so I was not surprised that she got a slight bounce. But that's 14% of people who thought they were voting for Hillary before moving into the Unsure/undecided column. That's quite a slip. But it's still early and we'll have to see.

I just get in a panic when I see things like this.

[kikiek]

26. Probably will change several times again. People are very burned out

and confused I think. This war is tearing this country up.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

15. Hillary has triangulated herself out of existence

Just a simple case of bad timing. I think we are entering a new age of "passionate" Democrats. Democrats who have realized they have to be as zealous and energetic and inspired as the radical right. We are new mobilzed Dems and we reject the Republican lites like Hillary and Leiberman and Biden. I think the most interesting development will be if a renegade Dem faces off against Hillary in the primary. Anyone can run and win with an agenda that says the middle class has been screwed and screwed and screwed again and that's ending.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

17. Not shocking to me. I have been a Democrat for 30+ years and will

not vote for Hillary. She disgusts me.

[earthside]

21. It's Her Move to the Right

I don't live in New York, but if my conversations with other progressive out here in the west are an indication, Hillary will continue to plummet in credibility as she moves to the right.

These establishment, elite Democrats just don't get it -- the country wants more Paul Hacketts that have the guts to call Bush an SOB and a chickenhawk; they want more Cindy Sheehans that have the courage to call O'Lielly a LIAR.

If Clinton and these other weenie Dems keep moving to the right ... they're going to lose because they will have alienated their liberal/progressive/labor base.

This NY poll may be an indication of what is in store for these out-of-touch Democrats.

[yankeefanatic3]

22. I agree, but the fact of the matter is

It comes down to who's going to bring a more progressive majority to the Senate and who's claiming to be a "moderate" for NY (Pirro) and then voting for a looney tune Mitch McConnell for majority leader in 2007. That's just how it is with me.

I don't necessarily agree with things some "Democrats" stand for, but I am loyal to my party.

[Renew Deal]

27. You are overreacting.

Let's say the 20% split evenly, that's 60-38. Not much here.

[B Calm]

28. She grew up in a republican family. She was a member of the Young

Republicans in college! She has moved to the middle and NY needs to tell her to get on the liberal march or get the hell out of the way!

[Lexingtonian]

29. oh, same story as everywhere else

All the real Indies and conservative leaning ones and moderate Republicans are upset that the world is changing, and they're not siding either Party. Reelects are down for politicians everywhere, though the effect is worse on Republicans. There's real opportunity and danger there in an electorate where such a big chunk is averse to engagement. I'd just suggest that the danger part is very disproportionately to the Republican side.

New York has a 'natural' 57/43 split at the moment, so Pirro is down 15 where Clinton is down a mere 7.

It's a jittery and fearful and fed-up electorate, though, feeling extremely eerie. The last time things felt this way as I recall was 1994. Change of regime wasn't a sentiment anyone felt in an articulate way, despite all the lying and pretensions afterward. Ideas and sentiments were chaotic in the Mushy Middle. But there was a sense of something Past really being Over in the air. Election Day came and It Just Happened by people staying home. Afterwards they agreed with the suffocating, lame, deadness being dispelled more than the policy points (really, only Republican activists actually knew any of what was inside the 'Contract with America', and the point was to pull Perot activists to their side). The smell in the air then was dead conservative Democrats.... Right now the stench and deathbed feeling is rising in the air again, and it's not emanating from much or any of the Democratic side. Some set of politicians with real power is having political gangrene and wasting set in. Guess what side that would be....

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. Why do you still believe in poll results?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

32. FREAKOUT!!!1!

It'll do ya good.

[wli]

33. 98% of prisoners in New York are in Republican Senate districts

And prisoners count toward electoral shares, and partially depopulate the Democrat-held cities, reducing their electoral shares. Then factor in felon disenfranchisement and election fraud...

[seaglass]

35. No worries, this is an overnight poll - notoriously unreliable.

Pirro has a lot of problems, she has zero chance.