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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:13 AM
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Our only hope
The only way we will be able to save our country is to have a coalition with republicans who feel the same way we do about the course America is on, guided by their president b**h.

I know, it is quite distasteful to even think of looking at one of them for very long, given that there is a great political divide between us. But some of them really love this country as much as we do, and we must find those few, and begin devising a plan whereby we can all get rid of the neo-cons once and for all.

It will take truly liberal hearts and minds to accomplish such a coalition. But we can do it: we must find common ground and unite our forces if we are to save America.

I do so wish to remain free, but the current course America is set upon tells me my freedom is about to go down the toilet. We must begin to embrace our fellow Americans.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:17 AM
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1. I totally agree , where is the outrage among principled republicans?



I posted something about this a couple of weeks ago...

1967313, The light bulb has come on for me


Posted by corkhead on Fri Jul-29-05 02:46 PM
I apologize in advance for being relatively underdeveloped politically and as a DU newbie, I am sure some of what I have to say will come off as trite, but maybe I can serve as a medium between the advanced erudite political scholars of DU :-) and the stick-your-head-in-the-sand “American Idol” crowd.

I was never able to put my finger on why I had been less than enthusiastic about the Democratic Party over the years, which was why I called myself an independent until only within the last year when I was forced to declare a party affiliation in order to run for a township office. I live in a predominantly Republican area and was politically adrift, but one thing was certain for me; out of principle I could not possibly bring myself to declaring myself a Republican. I held my nose and chose to become a Democrat, not because the principles it supposedly espouses, but because it was the less objectionable of the two. I didn’t feel either party was representing my interests.

I became very engaged in the last election cycle, did all I could to help get Kerry elected, even though deep in the back of my mind, I didn’t think he was as much of an alternative as I would have liked to have seen compared to the Corporate cabal of Bushco. I think it is safe to say that the discovery of DU and other Internet sites, the advent of Air America, and Fahrenheit 911, really lit a fire for me. I soon became perplexed as to why there were so many people I knew who were politically disinterested, including my girlfriend, when there was so much at stake. When I would strike up conversations about politics with people I encountered, I would often hear that “it doesn’t matter; the candidates are both the same anyway.” Having become more politically aware, I certainly didn’t believe that, but it put me at a loss; until now.

The recent flap about the DLC vs. real Democrats has opened my eyes as to what I see as being our biggest problem. While the Corporatist DLC follows the Repubs rightward and separates themselves from the core principles of democracy, they have made themselves look very similar to them, thus disaffecting a vast majority of people in this country. I believe this is why voting in recent years has consistently been an exercise in holding one’s nose. This problem needs to be fixed because at the risk of sounding melodramatic, THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD IS AT STAKE.

We don’t need to kick the DLC out of the party.
We don’t need to form a third party.
We, The People, need to regain control of OUR party.

Individuals who have been voting Republican are not our enemy. The enemies of democracy are the corporatists who calling themselves Democrats and Republicans. Let the corporatists choose for themselves what party they want to be in, lets not let them continue to destroy ours. While the DLC continues to work on making the party look like Corporate Repug Lite, they successfully keep a lot of people believing that at best there is no difference between the two parties and that “at least the Republicans stand for something”, while the Democrats look weak trying to be a cheap copy.

Most certainly the deck is stacked against us in many ways; the corporatists have most of the media on their side and they have created a very successful red herring attack machine that has distracted, discouraged, and divided a large number of those not as engaged as you and I are. Many Americans who actually bother to vote have become one issue voters, often sacrificing self interest for ideology, while others throw up their hands and stick their heads in the sand while all of Rome burns.

We do have something on our side that should be able to trump all of what the corporatists use against us, SHEER NUMBERS. We can be the party of the people, not the party of a bunch of simpering corporate apologists. To regain control of the Democratic Party, we need to draft a clear agenda that simply serves the best interests of the VAST MAJORITY of Americans. I would think that would be easy. How about universal healthcare, fiscal responsibility, a free and fair election system, workers rights, environmental protection, individual freedom, corporate accountability, and something the corporatists are truly incapable of, adherence to the ultimate core value, THE GOLDEN RULE. We must develop a clear and concise platform that measures up to these principles before we can work on the strategy to win with them. If we can change the divide in this country from being along silly red herring social issue lines to being “The People” vs. “The Corporatists”, we WILL win easily.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:35 AM
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5. GOOD points
We do have the numbers. It has been to the advantage of our corporate ringmasters to have us believe that the majority of Americans are with them, when nothing could be further from the truth.
We DO have the numbers. Whether we can harness that remains to be seen.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:37 AM
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6. You're correct, of course, corkhead
It is the corporations which is the stake through the democratic heart of this country. Our problem is that too many of the sleeple are beholden to the corporatists and any frontal attack on corporations is seen as an attack on their personal security.

What I am thinking is that we find the common denominators and use them to multiply our power against the head of the beast. Yes, it will grow a new head even after we cut off the existing, but we will eventually destroy those bastards once and for all.

Gawd, it gives me chills to think of having to share the same breathing space with pukes for very long, but it is our last hope that we unite and overcome. Looks like b**h will yet be the uniter he once proclaimed to be.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:20 AM
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2. Who are these Republicans?
In poll after poll, he seems to have universal support from those who identify themselves as Republicans...in fact, it's the only support he seems to have left. Democrats were always against him, and now the unbiased, non-partisan people seem to have abandoned him.

Anyone who still supports Bush this late in the game (Republicans) can't just be excused as "deluded" anymore...they must be people who just don't love their country. :shrug:
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:24 AM
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4. My mom is one, there are others
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:28 AM by corkhead
but I think they are in denial with their heads in the sand because it takes a lot to admit such a COLOSSAL mistake in supporting the war criminal that is our Commander in Thief. $3 per gallon gas will possibly wake them up.



Corrected on edit: I accidentally wrote "Chief"
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:21 AM
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3. I hope enough of them have the moral courage to admit their ...
mistake. Millions of people need to be weaned off of corporate propaganda (Limbaugh, etc.). They have been told for years "you are morally superior and all of the problems are the fault of the liberals." Typical propaganda themes. Our biggest problem is the millions of Americans who have marched along without really thinking much, and lazily believing the corporate propaganda, which is well-funded and pervasive.

I fear they are too well-conditioned and will remain loyal to their party over all else. They will follow Bush into the toilet and drag the rest of us with them. I guess I'm feeling a bit pessimistic today. But I don't see these freeper-types developing critical thinking skills anytime soon.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:56 AM
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7. Freeper types
We need not waste our time with the freepers. They are so screwed up they will never be welcome to the new America. It is the true Americans who look upon their president with disgust who we need to begin forming this coalition.

There are many potential Ms. Sheehans within the republican ranks who, properly motivated, would gather at the side of the road with her, either in spirit, as most of us are, or in body. We need them there.

And that is just one example of rediscovering the common ground America was founded upon and will need to be re-farmed if we are to survive as a country.
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