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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:30 AM
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What the hell is wrong with people? (warning rant)
I just got called all sorts of names, somewhere else, for saying we should worry more about homelessness and poverty here, in this country, before we try to "democratize" any more countries.

Apparently, the poor here are "vermin" and should be "rounded up" but in Iraq they are glorious purple fingered freedom lovers.

What..how..I don't get the disconnect. Can people REALLY be this stupid? The priorities in this country are so out of whack.

A fetus is a "cherished soul" but a black or brown baby (from age birth on) is a welfare brat or a future criminal.

Islamic people are all evil, unless they have purple fingers, when they're given "freedom and liberty".

The ACLU, a group meant to uphold the constitution, is evil, but the PNAC, a group meant to end the idea of sovereignty, is great.

A white teenager in Aruba, a Bride who changes her mind, and a pop star who molests children is "hot news", and the fucking DOWNING STREET MEMO, is ignored!!

AHHGHHG!!!
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:31 AM
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1. well said
*sigh*
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:38 AM
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21. yes, very
well said-

You might point out to them, that doing good is almost always a 'good' thing. But not when you neglect your own family in the process. Sort of the 'shoemakers children' going barefoot, or the missionary who neglects thier own family, to 'save' the world-

The poisonwood bible is an EXCELLENT book about this- so is the movie the Mosquito Coast.

Let's clean our own houses before we go looking to show others 'how to live'- To do otherwise is hyprocricy.

But it doesn't stroke the "power ego"-
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:31 AM
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2. I assume this person called him/herself a Christian
Next time quote some Jesus at them.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:34 AM
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5. That's not fair.
It really isn't.

Not everyone who says they're Christian is a fundamentalist freak.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:43 AM
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10. But
While not all Christians are fundamentalist freaks, it would seem that here in the U.S. that all fundamentalist freaks are Christians, at least the ones that the media pays attention to.

Here's a list of names:

Falwell
Robertson
Dobson
Perkins
Graham

All Christians and all fundamentalist freaks.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:07 AM
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14. "... all fundamentalist freaks are Christians ..."
I'll have to disagree. We have our share of Muslim and Jewish fundamentalist freaks as well.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:50 AM
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11. wryter2000 probably meant "christofascist"
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:09 AM
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16. That could well be....
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 11:10 AM by madeline_con
It just sounded like generalizing to some extent.

Hopefully, with all the tolerance professed by Dems, we can accept those who have religious beliefs?

EDIT: non- evangelical "the earth is 6000 years old" beliefs, that is. ;)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:18 PM
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24. Religious fascism is NEVER acceptable. Religion, particularly
the sort that ends where my body begins, is not bad in and of itself. The misuse of religion to interfere with other persons' rights is always bad.
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:50 AM
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12. No, but the Religious Right is neither.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:12 AM
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18. All Christians aren't members of the Right.
That's all I'm saying.

I defend Christians, Mulsims, Jews and anyone who wants to believe in a higher being.

I do NOT support those who feel they must force the rest of us to believe in their particular brand of higher being.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:54 AM
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13. I didn't say they were
What I meant to say is that most people who'd round up the poor and dump them somewhere are rwers who consider themselves Christians.

Frankly, I'm one of the non-believers on this board who screams bloody murder when people pull that "opiate of the masses" crap. It's about time Christians took as hard a stand against the people who are corrupting their religion as they do anyone who says anything that could be even wildly considered criticism of faith.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:14 AM
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19. I agree absolutely...
I think there are groups who are taking the stand you mention, but their voices are drowned out by the war drums from the Evangelical camp.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:38 AM
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22. Thank heaven
I'm so cheered by the various Christian groups who are speaking up for their faith.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:09 AM
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15. no it isn't fair, but sadly it is
more the 'norm' today than ever-
And if a Christian said about the poor, and needy what the poster quotes, then indeed it WOULD be right to 'call' them on it-

Just as not all 'Americans' are republican, neo-cons, we are going to be 'judged' by the actions of those who have the loudest voices, and act out. That isn't fair either, but even those who have said "I don't hate the 'american people' but I hate what their government is doing", are begining to tire of having to justify our tolerance of what is so grievously WRONG.

i'm a follower of Christ- and that somehow no longer equates to what is being passed off a 'christ'ianity any longer- i'm not ashamed of my faith, i'm ashamed of the hypocricy being done, "in the name of God"-
Jesus would have overturned their tables, and called them what they are-
white washed seplecures who hang stones around peoples necks, who wash the ouside of the cup, but inside is all sorts of evil, and filth.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:17 AM
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20. "I don't hate the 'american people'...
... but I hate what their government is doing"

You bring up an excellent point that DUH-bya seems not to grasp.

I seriously doubt that all Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims.

At least, my own son has never been caught sneaking up on me with a knife. :eyes:
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:32 AM
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3. Ignore the ignorance and keep focused on what you know to be true. n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:32 AM
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4. Did you get called those names here on Democratic Underground
I find it hard to believe that anybody at DU would characterize the poor as vermin, but if they did, that's crap.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:40 AM
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9. oh no, not at all. a different user group
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:35 AM
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6. You go girl!
(sui puts on cheerleader uniform, shakes pom poms does splits)


We got your back girl - :thumbsup:

disclaimer: sui really CAN do splits and shake pom poms like a mad go go boy but that ain't me up there.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:37 AM
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7. To be a Bush apologist you have to be mentally ill. Cognitively damaged.
A sound, healthy person simply cannot sustain the dissonance that these people walk around with in their heads every day.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:37 AM
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8. ive had people say they are tired of people picking on poor CEOs
I was told that we should pity a CEO if he looses his job because CEO jobs are not plentiful. This was from a discussion about the millions that the Exxon CEO will walk away with. It just blows my mind that we should pity the poor CEOs and us normal folks should give up stuff so CEOs can continue to rip us off.

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Ysolde Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:10 AM
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17. Sort of like how the estate tax should be repealed...
even though it only impacts, at most, 54,144 estates if the exemption remains at $1million and the number dips to 3,835 if the exemption is upped to $3.5million. I just don't get how the people, the "media", and our representatives can say this tax needs to be repealed. Insane!
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IrkedSerf Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 12:10 PM
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23. Hand them this link :
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:25 PM
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25. We still kill em if they have purple fingers.
Americans are bigots and I guess they always will be. Blame the Conservative christians...their GOP fake christian cult has done unimaginable damage to this country and to the world. God must be sooooo angry with them for dishonoring his son.
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:10 PM
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26. Good post Karen! Also, tax $$$ to improve life in America = COMMUNISM
tax $$$ poured endlessly down a black hole in Iraq for no reason at all except to profit the capitalist cabal = something just and holy, apparently.

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