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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 05:57 PM
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My 7-year old nephew told me that homosexuals are sick!!!



I went swimming the other day and brought him over to my mom's house with me.

Somehow me and my mom got on the conversation of gay marriage while sitting on the steps of the pool. He was in front of us and could hear and everything.

He said "Ick that's sick!" When I mentioned that I wanted to marry another woman.

My mom goes "No, you shouldn't say that Malachi."

He just giggles and says that being gay is sick.

My mom asked him if he understood what we were talking about and he says "Yes, it's when two boys or two girls love each other. But that's wrong!!" Giggle.

My mom says to him, "God doesn't think it's wrong.!" And he says "But it is!" Giggle, laugh

So the conversation went on like this for a few more minutes. I said I didn't know where he got it from. I theorized that he was getting it from somewhere, maybe from my sis's ex-boyfriend Reggie who lives down south. Mom has told me before that he deingenerated my nephew for being afraid of frogs and threw one on him.

My mom told me that it could be from my nephew.

After I got home and gotten into bed my mind started pondering more about this as I am sure it isn't from me, my sister or my mom (we're all pretty liberal and accepting of the homosexual lifestyle) So I thought that it could be from when he goes to church on Weds. nights or when he was in Vacation Bible Study earlier this year. My sister shipped him off to VBS during the day so that she could basically "not deal with him." I am just wondering if he is getting some kind of fundy feed back or something, maybe mentioning me being gay and the teachers and other kids rided on him about it.

So what do you think?

Dee
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:02 PM
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1. I'd vote for the VBS
if not from the teachers probably from another kid who's got fundie parents.

Just reinforce to him that love is love..thats all you can do at that age.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:02 PM
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2. I think a seven year old would react 'ICKY' to any discussion about
sex in this country. The whole society is brought up on repression and self loathing.
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kahleefornia Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:06 PM
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6. yep it's a 7 yr old thing
Good to correct him, and discuss it, but even if he heard it specifically from somewhere else, he's just repeating it to get a reaction.
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SnowBack Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:14 PM
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12. It isn't about sex..
If a little boy says he wants to marry a little girl, do you think it's about sex? Of course not...

So if he hears about someone who wants to marry someone of the same sex and says it's "icky", he's saying something he heard from an adult or some kids somewhere...

Although you're right - society IS brought up on repression and self-loathing...

Democracy White - Someone needs to make sure he knows you might marry another woman some day and that he doesn't think YOU'RE icky does he?

Sorry you had to put up with that... Are you very open about being a Lesbian with your family? Or are you just starting to discuss it with all of them? How supportive are they?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:03 PM
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3. is he home schooLed?
if not, then he got it at schooL.
or maybe from friends/kids in the neighborhood.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:03 PM
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4. Have your sister ask him where he learned this.
Once you know the source, then you can figure out the next best step.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:05 PM
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5. And remember, it's not a "lifestyle" :)
I agree with KT, have your sister ask him where he heard it.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:08 PM
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7. Ahhh, the price of
shipping a kid somewhere so you don't have to deal with them!

I'd bet on VBS.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:09 PM
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8. I just learned I'm going to hell. . .
My son just told me the Baptist Channel said women who lift weights (as I do) are doomed because only bad women want to be strong. It seems the Catholic Channel isn't so bad but I'm right up there with Satan!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:10 PM
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9. Teach him about hate crimes while your at it!
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:13 PM
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10. Most likely got it from another kid
who overheard something from an adult, older kid or even TV - best thing to do is tell him that it is not sick and whoever told him that was mistaken. I am in awe of the infulence that adults have over young kids - especially adults that these kids are fond of - I spent alot of time with my three nephews this summer - 4, 6 and 11 - now here is a funny story - when I use a salt shaker I almost always shake it in my hand first to test how fast it pours out - I am the only one I have ever seen do this - ok so I'm strange - anyway the point of this story is that one night at the dinner table with these three beautiful - impressionable children - ALL THREE OF THEM - shook the salt shaker into their hand before salting their food - I lauged my ass off

Point is they will listen to you if you just quietly refute their statement that being gay is sick - good luck
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:13 PM
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11. Well, he is just 7
I'll be honest with you. I've always thought of myself as "liberal" but, I don't think I was that accepting of homosexuals until I was older and by that I mean 25+. I didn't understand and the only people that I had close to me that were gay was a couple that my family accepted, but we as kids made fun of. It wasn't right, but it was the scenario in 70's and 80's kids' conversations. I don't know what it is like in today's children's conversations, but I don't know that it is necessarily the church. It very well could be, but it could also be silly children that have a few in their group with parents that are discriminatory that they have learned from that is infecting their little group.
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:18 PM
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14. Well like I said, I would think it was someone he heard
saying it, especially in a church setting or something as I have mentioned that my sister is pretty open about it.

I wouldn't ask my sister to ask him now as the subject has passed but if it comes up again in her presence than I will say something.

Dee
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:35 PM
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21. it is good that your sister is open about it.
That is important. It is also important for you to be open and to just see the little boy as a 7 year old. It is obvious that he heard it from someone. Be it the Church, or be it another 7 year old. I'm sorry that homosexuals need to go through the discrimination that they do. But, like I said, I have to be honest, and I didn't understand until several years ago. For me, I didn't really become "accepting" until someone I loved came out. I apologize. It was like a curtain had been lifted for me. I live in a very red area and growing up, you only know what you know sometimes.

Even tho my Dad and step-mom were very accepting of a gay couple, they still referred to them in derogatory terms at times. I bought into the "there was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Adam" slogan. I was wrong. And, like I said it really took maturing and knowing someone that I love coming out to really lift that curtain.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:16 PM
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13. i can only tell you my then 9 yr old experience, and feels normal
from whaT I heard this nephew say, doesnt feel like it was so much taught. he may not have even heard of it until listening to your conversation, two females marrying, two males marrying. my son didnt know what gay meant, but he was being called that at school. also with the election a lot of people were talking homosexuality adn in a bad way,s eeing i am in the bible belt. i told son when teo males, or two females marry. they fall in love with same sex. he immediately went to eeeeeewwwwww. (normal response, he is looking at it only in his limited vision of relationship love marriage). i told him, from beginning of time there has always been homosexuality, all animal species has homosexual behavior, it is just another child of god in diversity. he thought about it. then he started getting bothered that people were judging gays and came to all should be treated equally and with respect

initial response came only from his own experience, thought took him beyond.
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:19 PM
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15. Well Malachi understands what homosexuality is...
and some of you may be right, it's probably a thing where he thinks all forms of "love" are icky.

Dee
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:24 PM
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18. How is homosexuality not normal?
Maybe in the physical procreation sense it isn't but spiritually it is as normal as the air we breathe.

Dee
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:37 PM
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22. lady you're damn idiot!
Thats all you've got???? That's you LAME areguement over why YOU think homosexuality is not normal.......

How about old age? You think that's normal? How about death???? You think thats normal???
PLEASE....what do you think would happen if NO oNE EVER DIED, and in your NORMAL world their were no abnormal gays??

Well, I'll tell ya, you wouldnt be here for starters we would have killed ourselves off by now.

Also....what about women and men who are born who CANNOT biologically have children??? You think their freaks of nature too???

What about the ones who just dont care to have children.........have they missed the only real reason why they were put on the earth???


Again......you're not too bright and you really should educate yourself a bit!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:38 PM
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23. Wow you bought that "we'll die out as a species" line?
>ask yourself what would happen to the world population if all consisted of homosexuals<

Do you see that happening?

>It is fact. It's not normal. Sorry.<

I take normal to mean naturally occurring.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:47 PM
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32. ok, then you think its a choice?
If so please tell me when you made the "choice"

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:49 PM
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36. How on earth would you think I think it is a choice from my post?
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:51 PM
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39. LOL!
sorry, I got so upset, read it wrong, looked at it again.
taking foot out of mouth :)
bare with me....new to this, and where I should link my direct responses too. I'll catch on
sorry :)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:52 PM
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40. All good titoresque!
:toast:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:41 PM
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24. You forgot to add
this sarcasm image. :sarcasm:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:41 PM
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25. We'd die out as a species??
And this is a bad thing?
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kahleefornia Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:45 PM
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27. "truth" and "facts"
Sexual reproduction is not the only reason for sexual behavior, in any species.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:47 PM
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33. It is for the fundies. "God said that sex should repulse....
unless it leads to results.
And so we crowd the world
full of consenting adults." - Leonard Bernstein
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BrewerJohn Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:46 PM
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29. So what you're saying, technically, is that they are a minority
That's what "normal" implies, in the literal sense: being close to the statistical mean. So homosexuality is a minority trait. And so?

Being infertile is a minority characteristic also. The same fate would befall the species if that were universal also. So what?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:55 PM
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42. Yeah, I want to educate you. Imagine if everyone in the world were...
straight and had numerous children. We'd all starve to death, because Mother Earth could not sustain the exponential population growth.

Or imagine if all straight couples refused to use birth control. According to your definition of normal--procreation--birth control is not "normal." Again, exponential population growth would seal our doom.

Even American Indians thousands of years ago believed that balance equated with normality, and when their world was out of balance, it was not normal, and measures had to be taken to bring back normal balance. Yes, there were homosexuals then (berdaches).

Normal is a balance. In human sexuality, I'd propone that normal is a healthy balance of hetero and homosexual people.

I'm eager to hear your response.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:57 PM
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43. Well said as always nt
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:25 PM
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19. Normal? neither is prostitution lesbianism...
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:24 PM
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17. it's pretty sick what the fundies are doing
They really don't like it when people make up their own minds.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:45 PM
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28. another thing while you've pissed me off
what isnt normal is to live out an entire lifetime without
truly being comfortable with who you are, what isnt normal
is living an entire lifetime being what everyone else considers "normal" while you die inside.

You have about as much authority to say what is "normal" as
our Government should have in telling me who I can and cannot marry

BTW......My wife and I raise our two children and we have been MARRIED for 9 years living a VERY normal mundane life...paying our taxes for over 1,400 rights (two horny kids can get while in a drive thru wedding in Vegas after only knowing eachother a day)we do not benefit from.

Is THAT normal???????!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:47 PM
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31. I'm not sure how to read your post; did I offend somehow?
When I look at your post's content (vs. the title) it seems your sentiments largely match mine.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:48 PM
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35. I'm sure the reply was to shelley806
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:49 PM
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37. sorry linked it to the wrong one
new at this :) sorry
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:47 PM
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34. I think you replied to the wrong person.
:hi:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:43 PM
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26. Wait, Malachi?
Wasn't their a Malachi in Steven King's "Children of the Corn"?

Hope it's not a bad sign.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:47 PM
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30. Well, I wouldn't automatically blame the Southerner
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 06:48 PM by Clark2008
that's for sure.

Look - this attitude is in the schools - EVERYWHERE.

We have gay folks down here, too.

Geesch.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:50 PM
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38. When I was little, I thought it was gross.
Especially when I started having those feelings myself. Then I started to learn that it's normal.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 06:53 PM
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41. I think it's about being 7, i bet he thinks marriage in general is "Icky"
and girls are gross too.
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44. Locking
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