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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:12 PM
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Racist origin of the "We Don't Care" anti-Sheehan protest in Crawford
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 08:13 PM by iconoclastic cat
Here:
Damn it! It's Mike Gallagher (none / 0)

He was reciting the phrase on his program the other day based on something someone wrote. He posted it on his site:

http://www.mikeonline.com/images/linksandinfo/dontcare.html

The account of his bus going to Crawford is here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/12/182426/409

Dana Garrett

by Dana Garrett on Fri Aug 12th, 2005 at 20:58:08 EDT


This is the post:
I Don't Care

by Doug Patton

Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001? Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania? Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet? Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia.

I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling, slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

I'll care when Clinton-appointed judges stop ordering my government to release photos of the abuses at Abu Ghraib, which are sure to set off the Islamic extremists just as Newsweek's lies did a few weeks ago.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college hazing incident, rest assured that I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank that I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and -- you guessed it -- I don't care!


So, there you have it. It's all about bigotry. What a surprise.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:15 PM
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1. Send him to Iraq if he don't care!
Send his kids!
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:18 PM
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2. And when someone decides to dissappear...
...Doug Patton, or blow his ass up, rest assured, I won't care.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:18 PM
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3. I`m just about in tears.
Sweet Jesus, what have we become?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:29 PM
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13. I haven't become anything like that ignorant fascist asshole!
He quotes Rush's line of trash like a good little Nazi, none of them can think on their own! I guess thinking is Hard Work With their heads so far up their asses! A lot of the Germans thought the shit Hitler was doing was cute too and they paid for their ignorance when the Russians came and raped their wives and mothers! They paid in war crime trials too! They paid in a country split in half for 50 years!

I'll bet you he's not a VETERAN!
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. he's not
neither are his 4 twenty-somthing year old sons.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #21
29. The asshole knows about the military from watching GOMER!
And Being GOOBER!
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #3
18. I feel ya demo... that's what I thought too....
how can people be so stupid.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:19 PM
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4. Send his stupid bigot ass to Iraq. He'll care about something then!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:22 PM
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5. "Send YOUR Boys, Mike".."Send YOUR Boys, Mike".."Send YOUR Boys, Mike"..
Mr. Gallagher has four sons, all of prime military age. None are serving, or plan to.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/12/182426/409
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:24 PM
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10. Four military-age sons?
Oh good, one for each branch of the military :evilgrin:

I love that cat/beer photo btw :hi:
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:29 PM
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14. Four non-serving sons and he has the nerve to write this crap?
Well, my oldest IS serving and Mike Gallagher can kiss my ass! Put up, or shut up you heartless fucking chickenhawk bastard. Put up, or shut up.

Maybe then, you will care.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Well said....BTW: They left as fast as they came....
Anti-American Losers Depart Protest: Cindy Sheehan Won't Back Down
by patrioticliberal
Fri Aug 12th, 2005 at 17:00:04 PDT
Update <2005-8-12 21:18:29 by patrioticliberal>:They're gone, no violence. Thank goodness. A message to you right wing freaks: Cindy Sheehan and her group of peaceful protesters will not back down. You can try to attack the mother of a soldier who died in the war you love so much; you will not win. You are the cowards, and your "leader" is a coward for passing up two opportunities to meet with Cindy today. Thank you Cindy and her fellow protesters for remaining peaceful. Let's hope someone taped these right wing fascists. If you do, please send it to iconoclastic cat . Thank you!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/12/2005/19928

Prolly got a few bug bites, then left....
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #14
45. The problem, is that we have no "gallagher" to blab on the radio
about why HIS sons are cowards..It IS all about the rightwing stranglehold on media.. The ones we do have need to REfocus on BEING the antidote..not just a "mildly" liberal voice..

Now that I don;t get AAR in my car, I have the Turks guys, and the other day they spent the entire time i wa sin my car, just blandly chitchatting with each other..nothing remotely political..

WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LET UP..FOR A MINUTE..WE ARE PLAYING CATCH-UP..30 years worth


If you're in the 4th quarter and down by 21 points, you don't play "carefully"..you go all out to try to catch up.. a 3 point field goal won't help when you need touchdowns:(
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:23 PM
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6. Yeah, we saw the recruiting numbers. You really don't care.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7802712/


The Army was 7000 below mission at the beginning of this month. By the end of FY2005, I estimate they will be short on the annual mission by more than 10,000 recruits.

That is not good news for front line units already hard pressed for personnel.

They should be chanting "I Don't Care For Military Service Because I'm A Gutless Chickenhawk!!"




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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #6
32. Apparently Gallagher has his own pseudo-Army
(complete with pseudo-uniforms). How appropriate for a chicken-hawk.

http://www.gallaghersarmy.com/
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SledDriver Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:23 PM
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7. I'll bet he'd care if...
...he was on the receiving end.


shithead
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:23 PM
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8. Have you seen his website? He cares. Every death is another dollar
in his bank account. Yea, he cares a lot. If I knew how, I'd post his Chickenshit Chickenhawk photo with him hiding behind a fake uniform.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:24 PM
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9. OK, but I want to know how we get these people voting Democratic
these white male conservatives who are fundamentalist Christians, who hate black people, hate Muslims, and have an entitlement mentality that they should control everything.

Al From and the DLC says we need to "connect" with these people.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. What these people need to "connect" with.....
ia a Mr. Paul Hackett. He`d fix their sorry butts.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:36 PM
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30. I don't believe you CAN connect with them. They are irrational with fear.
So many Americans are afraid of damned near everything but they have to maintain this stupid cowboy macho thing. It's like the blowhards about gun ownership. Mostly I feel sorry for them because they are so afraid. Must be a terrible way to live.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:25 PM
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11. Who is this guy?
And where does he spew from?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:33 PM
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15. Let them chant it. Most Americans will be horrified by them.
They'll look like idiots. Why should we care that they don't care?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:34 PM
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16. They do grow some mighty big ASSHOLES in Texas!
That prick is a classic example!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:44 PM
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19. Another breathless whineing ass repub,
get over it, you "won", fuckin' brownshirt.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:56 PM
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20. Why is Mike Gallagher raising money for military families...
Asn still backing the War....

If he is so behind this war, why doesn't he pressure to government to support the troops and their families....

I don't get it....

Sending him an EMail Right Now.....

Go on, Mike.....

Take it too Iraq you big pussy....,

I'm sure Bush could find you some Kevlar....

Or not.....


http://www.mikeonline.com/
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:04 PM
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22. He's a fighter...
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:04 PM by NightOwwl
but with words. :sarcasm: :eyes:
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democratic veteran Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:04 PM
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23. I do care - for our troops; and you are helping to kill them!
This had made the wrong wing rounds before. A progressive friend had a great response:

From: GORDON MANN
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:42 PM
Subject: What's all the fuss?

WHAT'S ALL THE FUSS?
"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we?

>---No, our president now calls this "a global struggle against violent extremism." It was known from the beginning that no one can "win" a "War on Terror" but we might be able to shove around some "rag heads" involved in a "global struggle against violent extremism" and appear to be doing something.

Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our
shores on September 11, 2001?

>---No...it began years before with western hegemony and industrial
nation's over-dependence on foreign oil. Watch something other than FOX news and you'll understand that I am talking about the history of that region, not the narrative republicans want to pass of as "historical fact," holding political purchase over the safety and future of America.

Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?

>---Yes, over 3,000 died, and for that we took the lives of thousands more, occupied their land and are hijacking their natural resources so that we can keep our gas guzzling SUV's running. 3,000 died so that a handful of oil industries in America could exploit their deaths and secure what could be the largest oil fields in the world.

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible,
burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

>---See above.

And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet? Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

>---This is why those same soldiers face what they do every day, because the military doesn't help them understand the inflammatory effect of these "accidents" and how they have helped cost over 1,7000 Americans their lives and wounded thousands more. How do you support a war that you "don't care" about the fundamentals of? You don't.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

>---He was in our sights at Tora Bora and we let him go. This
administration is getting too much political support from people like you to catch him now. Osama says "Keep up the good work."

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start
caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia.

>---If you look at the statistics about how much Christians understand the Bible, it should be a crime for some of them to own it. "God helps those who help themselves" is a "phantom scripture," not stated by Jesus Christ. But many Christians swear it's Biblical. Jesus Christ helped the poor, he wouldn't rush to give welfare to corporate America while taking it away from the underprivileged like the "family values" right is doing today.

>http://www.acts17-11.com/cows_helps.html

I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for
hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling, slashed throat.

>---The question is when are we going to say "I'm sorry" for intervening in Middle Eastern affairs supporting despots like the Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussein until they just don't get us the oil we need or their people kick them out? I suppose al-Zarqawi will apologize for one man when we apologize for centuries of death and destruction to support our national fossil fuel addiction.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

>---I'd be interested in seeing how you would "come out and fight like a man" if you were nose to nose with those "cowardly insurgents" and your billion dollar a week military wasn't there to protect you. The insurgents have no air force, no navy, no army and yet armed with smuggled weapons they can still raise hell in Iraq. Are you still here? Go get them boy!

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

>---This will happen when American bombers trying to secure oil fields for American oil industries, can drop those things without killing thousands of children in a fell swoop.

I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First
Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

>---"First Amendment Liberties" are not derived from International Law but inspired by them either because or in spite of European influence.
>Our Constitution is a combination of a lot of different European ideas and certainly didn't rise out of a vacuum. Read the "Federalist Papers," in between FOX news flashes. If some of us weren't so girlie-man sensitive about feed back and criticism we could take a breath and understand that we don't live in a fish bowl, we live in a big ocean, and how we exercise our "rights" in the world impact people all over it, not just the three foot radius around your TV chair and beer tray. A lot of countries will attest to that, like Germany, Japan, most of South America, Spain and now the Middle East.

>I'll care when Clinton-appointed judges stop ordering my government to release photos of the abuses at Abu Ghraib, which are sure to set off the Islamic extremists just as Newsweek's lies did a few weeks ago.

>---That's called "freedom of the press." When did that become a bad
thing? BTW, "Newsweek's lies" were later substantiated Dweezle, as you confirm here.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

>---That incident becomes a recruiting anecdote for thousands more
insurgents rising up our of the streets of Iraq to hunt and murder that "brave marine."
>Do me a favor. Don't support the troops...you're killing them.

When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have
been humiliated in what amounts to a college hazing incident, rest
assured that I don't care.

>---That "college hazing" has been used to recruit thousands of Iraqis that may have been on the edge and our treatment of their fellows tipped them over. Don't support the troops...you're killing them.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank that I don't care.

>---More propaganda turning those Iraqi's that are on the fence into al Quaeda supporters, one more insurgent hunting our troops in the streets of Baghdad. Don't support the troops...you're killing them.

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is
complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can
absolutely believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care.

>---Only in America can cafeteria food be a trade off for living in a cage with no hope of ever returning to your homeland. What did you have for dinner last night BTW big boy?

>---Now as for your tax dollars, the GAO says that billions of it is
disappearing in Iraq from choice contractor deals that are basically
producing zip over there. The money is going into some big, universal contractor's toilet while many Iraqis still don't have water or electricity after two years. Let's not worry about what Omar had for dinner at Guantanamo so much as our tax dollars are concerned, and actually demand some accountability from the war profiteers in Afghanistan and Iraq chewing up billions there for who knows what.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran"
and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and -- you guessed it -- I don't care!"

>---When an American city is rendered inhospitable for eternity from a tired little dirty bomb because we couldn't spell "Quran" I imagine that you won't care then either, unless it's your home you need to vacate over night for radiation contamination. How will that happen? It will happen because this administration is more interested in war profiteering than securing our borders, more interested in controlling Iraqi oil that subduing real al Quaeda operatives, more concerned about approval ratings than the lives of American soldiers trying to support a lie that many of us back home have failed to really understand but like to blab about a lot...maybe because we "don't care."

>---Mr. Mann you are a gift to Osama bin Laden with a big, pretty pink ribbon tied around your fat head. We have no chance at wining anything we have started here as long as what we are doing goes as unexamined as it is in your mind. Our enemies love this crap. Your email is probably in every terrorists email inbox right now and used in every terrorist recruiting >article available on the Internet to date. It intimidates no one, most certainly doesn't educate anyone, and inflames those whom we have understood so little and yet set out to change so much about, pronounced so bravely from within the three foot radius of our armchair and TV tray.

>---"Bite me" Mr. Mann, and if you don't like that...I don't care.

>>Doug Patton/Gordon Mann or whoever wrote this or believes it: Support the troops, enlist. I did.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #23
33. I love it!
Smacked down like a fool on every point! GREAT JOB!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #23
36. SUPERB!
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 11:42 PM by BrklynLiberal
I wish I could nominate your post.
:applause: :woohoo: :patriot:
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:06 PM
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24. 911:"Was it or was it not started by Islamic people...?"
Well, yeah, Islamic fundamentalist mostly from the southern Asir region of Saudi Arabia, geographically and politically remote from Iraq. But hell, they were Islamists right Gallagher? you NAZI POS!!! Oh damn. Once again I disqualify for most diplomatic new DUer. Maybe next post. Maybe people who follow Rush and Gallagher are stupid but Rush and Gallagher know very well what they are doing.
As my momma said when I was young; "Auschwitz is not a warning about the Germans. It is a warning about all of us."
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #24
31. We have no idea who did 9-11. It was never investigated.
We were simply told by the known liars of the Bush Administration who they wanted us to believe did it.

We do not yet know who did 9-11. My money is on the PNAC crowd since they said they needed it to happen and the timing was GREAT. Far more evidence of BushCo involvement in 9-11 than Muslim "terrorists"
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. I am all in favor of a real investigation.
I am just cutting my teeth on the ideas surrounding 911. Unbelievable at first to me, then to now I am thinking holy crap.' 911 was so perfect for these guys. So many motives. OMG!'
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. I am a MIHOP tinfoiler myself.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #37
46. LIHOP so far...getting more MIHOPish though.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:43 PM
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25. Yep-- that's about the mentality
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:55 PM
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26. Racist? Sounds like a violent psychotic to me...
When the US becomes a dictatorship run by goon squads, we will have people like this to thank.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
27. Folks this is the same guy who makes way too many
crazy statemetns during the Shviavo nuttiness... I even still have it on my blog by the way
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:13 PM
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28. My version of "I Don't Care"
Courtesy of the Circle Jerks:

I don't care
Where you from anyway?
I don't care
Lots of money anyway
I don't care
What you say anyway
I don't care
Lots of clothes anyway

I don't care
I don't care

Don't care
Nice car anyway
Don't care
Nice parents anyway
Don't care
Nice home anyway
Don't care
Lots of money anyway

I don't care
I don't care

Don't care
Don't care
Don't care
Don't care
Don't care
Don't care
I DON'T CARE!

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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:31 PM
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35. He Don't Care

He Don't Care
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 12:11 AM
Response to Original message
38. Kick!
:kick:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 05:18 AM
Response to Reply #38
39. And another
:kick:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:27 AM
Response to Reply #39
40. They don't care cause the poor kids fight the wars!
They don't care because they HATE AMERICA!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:22 AM
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41. Kick for "Doug"
Just so everyone understands that he doesn't care. Reminds me of the *dauphin.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:44 AM
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42. I just realized -- this is classic criminal gang mentality
"They did it to us so we've gotta get them back" is a rationalization most commonly employed by street gangs and criminal organizations, including terrorists. By and large these groups are made up of anti-social young men with mal-adapted coping skills, a deviant sense of morality, and a vengeful desire for power over others. They find validation within an exclusive 'family' dominated by a leader (or leaders) who lays down strict codes of conduct and demands everyone think alike and for the good of the group, or they're out. The 'enemy' is anyone who attacks them or gets in their way. Things like societal law, empathy, and remorse have no place in their twisted sense of justice...and if innocent people get caught up in the conflict, oh well. To them the ends always justify the means. (i.e. "We don't care, we don't care...")

The way Bush** practices authoritarian rule, it's no wonder his most vicious supporters are those who identify with this aberrant mentality.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 09:34 AM
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43. These twits actually strike me as being the *lower end* of gang structure
Usually, the very young or very dumb are the ones sent in to get the blood on their hands.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:16 AM
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48. Basically, FReepers aren't anything more than wannabes
...which puts them on the extreme outer fringes of BushCo's circle. But their hero still makes them feel special, part of an exclusive family that shuns anyone who doesn't worship the ideology and the man 100%, and they'll happily engage in petty Rethuglican acts -- like organizing smear campaigns against Cindy -- to continue to feel included and "important". Just think, the President condones and ratifies their hateful, reactionary response to the world. He even sets examples for them to live by...like a strict father who beats up the next door neighbor and then pats his kid on the head for killing the neighbor's cat.

Really, it's gangsta group-think on a national scale, orchestrated from the WH and Congress. As if the whole sorry mess weren't horrifying enough in its component parts.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 09:37 AM
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44. I wrote to Mike Gallagher yesterday
and asked him to understand if he had children the age to go to war, how he would feel. I now understand, that he does have 4 boys all chickenhawks, and of course their dad, General Chickenhawk, does not care... GO TO IRAQ GALLAGHER FAMILY and then tell us you don't care.....
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:07 AM
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47. Doug complains of the Bible's treatment in Saudi Arabia?
Well.. then he's supporting the wrong man. Last time I checked Bandar BUSH lived there... and Doug's esteemed holy leader Bush was openly supporting and fraternalizing with those that banned the Bible.

I'm sorry but those fascist, racist, assholes have no grasp of reality. They are just thrilled that their racism is finally mainstream...
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kbm8795 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:20 AM
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49. Yeah...and notice that he doesn't care
about any of the gay Americans who died that day as well. . .particularly one who helped in the defense of the airliner that was downed in Pennsylvania. The wingnut's reward for that patriotism? Constitutional amendment pretending their relationships don't exist.

Send his butt to Iraq and the wingnut talk radio hosts who bitch about the MSM but don't seem to recognize how much of it they control.
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