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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 05:49 PM
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400 anti-Cindy protestors?!? Why do I seriously doubt that?
"Marine mother Gale Muskiet of Houston estimated that there were 400 in her group that lined up in support of Bush hoping to catch a glimpse of him as he drove on Prairie Chapel Road."

http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/31-40/32news20.htm
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 05:52 PM
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1. As the day goes on
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 05:53 PM by CC
seems the number of anti-Cindy protesters grows in the news. I was shaking my head that 100 increased to 250 with in minutes here on the news. I find it hard to believe too specially when the numbers change by the minute.

Bush Supporters Confront Peace Mom
AP Image
More than 250 people gathered Saturday across the road from war protesters near President George W. Bush's Texas ranch to voice support for the war.

http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/4848521/detail.html



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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 05:57 PM
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3. LOL my pictures say otherwise
i counted about five.
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kbm8795 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:04 PM
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12. Well, this is a Party that is in charge of the economy
and of counting the war dead. I doubt they can estimate anything without spinning around until they are dizzy and counting the multiple images they see.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:28 PM
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19. That's really all you need to know
Look how long it took for people to get there for pro-Cindy protestors. I highly doubt that many people can get there.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 05:56 PM
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2. Somebody slipped an extra zero on the number...
:eyes:
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 05:58 PM
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4. from the pics
I seriously doubt the numbers and the communist crack at the end of the article..makes you want to pull your hair out.

"Dr. Raoul Deming, a member of FreeRepublic.com, called the pro-peace demonstrators un-American because, he said, the host organizations have ties with communists. "

Why, why, why, why??????????????????????????


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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:56 PM
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27. This is a rinky dink operation. Cool that they hate Bush, but
Those are 22 year old writers writing there. If someone said that to me, I would ask for his proof he is a Dr. and what his doctorate was in, and how he knows they have ties to communist organizations, which ones, and where I can find the proof, otherwise, that statement would be exed out. That's not opinion, that is a statement of fact. And obviously, he has no facts to back up his opinion.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 05:59 PM
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5. Because they over inflate their #'s and under inflate our!
Somethings never change.
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NewInNewJ. Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:01 PM
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7. A P reports
200 bush supporters. How do you correct this crap?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:30 PM
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20. Beats me?
Apparently we are the underdogs here! Even though we outnumber them. The corporate controlled media isn't on our side. Duh!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:07 PM
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33. I just e-mailed the source of the article in the OP
Since my e-mail, they've added a correction to their report, saying others dispute the "400" figure. I'm tired of this shit, misrepresenting the facts and taking at face value what these right wing fanatics say. I'm e-mailing and writing these news places, today.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:00 PM
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6. By the time the MSM gets ahold of it, that number will be in the thousands
This is the break the corporados have been looking for, an opportunity to truly marginalize Cindy and re-popularize the war and the "war president".
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:02 PM
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8. is there anything we can do?
How can we get through that the pics don't lie? Sometimes I feel so freaking helpless.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:02 PM
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9. I'm listening to Guy Games show and he stated that, there were
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 06:02 PM by Rainscents
over 2000 people there supporting for Cindy! He didn't say how many Pro-Bush there, I'm guessing, not many!!!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:03 PM
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10. Their game is us versus them. The biggest mob wins, join the biggest mob.
Hindbrain stuff. Doesn't matter if it's true, not that anyone interested in domination would ever lie to achieve it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:04 PM
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11. Not even close
Here is a picture I found over at FR:

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:07 PM
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13. Yup, looks like 500 to me! Lying assholes lying assholes lying assholes ly
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dissent1977 Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:04 PM
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31. That is about 500 I'd say...
Just ask Diebold I am sure that is about the number they would get if they counted.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:09 PM
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34. good one n/t
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:11 PM
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14. The guy on the far right

Looks like the transitional species they've been wanting us to produce.
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mamiesb2001 Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:11 PM
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15. My local (Baltimore station) is reporting 250+ "Pro-Bush" folks. Funny,
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 06:13 PM by mamiesb2001
they aren't supplying any numbers for the other groups.

Edited to add: just sent an email to the station, asking if they could give some clarification re: the number of people supporting Cindy. We'll see what happens.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:16 PM
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16.  they can't accurately count people OR votes !!!

n/t
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:27 PM
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17. The pictures suggest the Freeps can't count past their fingers
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:01 PM
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30. It's a miracle
Kind of like the loaves and the fishes. 7 becomes 700.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:28 PM
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18. We could have a million, they could have 10 and the corp. media would...
report it as a "near standoff".

Remember this?

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:31 PM
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21. Exactly
MSM pulled this same crap with anti-war protests, drastically underreporting the number of people who turned out for them.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:32 PM
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22. As I have said, "If a Republicans Lips are moving"
then they are lying.

I don't believe it either.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:35 PM
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23. Remember - these people don't know how to tell the truth
Maybe it's genetic. Maybe it's mass psychosis. But these people are unable to tell the truth.

As for that Marine mother - let's see if she feels the same way when her son is returned in a flag-draped box. Still seem like a good idea? Feel any freer or more democratic? Safer?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:40 PM
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24. 50 in support of Cindy, and 400 in protest of Cindy. Hmmm, the
new math?

:sarcasm:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:42 PM
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25. Diebold is counting their protesters
You know--counting backwards for us and triple counting theirs.
It's the new math dontchaknow.
THEY also don't want the sheeple to know that more people disagree than agree.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:44 PM
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26. I just sent them an e-mail, pointing out their bias and
error, and asking for correction and more accurate info in future updates.

Here's their contact info:

CONTACT INFORMATION:

e-mail: office@iconoclast-texas.com
telephone: (all departments): (254) 675-3336 or toll-free: 1-800-241-5504
fax: (254) 675-4090
web newspaper: iconoclast-texas.com

Send mail to: The Lone Star Iconoclast, P.O. Box 420, Crawford, TX 76638.

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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:55 PM
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28. Hey, they changed it!
Here's the part of the article I copied and sent to them, asking them to correct the numbers:

5:35 p.m.


Nathan Diebenow reporting for The Iconoclast:

The pro-Bush counter-protestors left Houston at 5 a.m. and arrived at Crawford around 10 a.m. at Camp Casey. The event was organized by members of FreeRepublic.com.

Marine mother Gale Muskiet of Houston estimated that there were 400 in her group that lined up in support of Bush hoping to catch a glimpse of him as he drove on Prairie Chapel Road. The group left there reportedly after 12:30 p.m. for the parking lot of Pirate Field in Crawford. Many of the members of the group had to walk halfway because of traffic congestion.

At the counter-protest rally four Marine moms spoke in support of President Bush and the war on terrorism saying that the United States must stay the course and that their children chose to join the military of their own free will.

There was a member of the group that dressed up like the Statue of Liberty.

And Now, here's their updated version:

5:35 p.m.


Nathan Diebenow reporting for The Iconoclast:
Several photos of today's event appear at the bottom of this section.

The pro-Bush counter-protestors left Houston at 5 a.m. and arrived at Crawford around 10 a.m. at Camp Casey. The event was organized by members of FreeRepublic.com.

Marine mother Gale Muskiet of Houston estimated that there were 400 in her group that lined up in support of Bush hoping to catch a glimpse of him as he drove on Prairie Chapel Road. The group left there reportedly after 12:30 p.m. for the parking lot of Pirate Field in Crawford. Many of the members of the group had to walk halfway because of traffic congestion.

The 400 estimate has, however, been disputed by others present, who say that the number was considerably less than that.

At the counter-protest rally four Marine moms spoke in support of President Bush and the war on terrorism saying that the United States must stay the course and that their children chose to join the military of their own free will.

There was a member of the group that dressed up like the Statue of Liberty.

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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 08:06 PM
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32. good for you
I think its things like this we need to be vigilant about. We should be emailing all the networks until they are sick of hearing us. Call them on their misinformation until they realize we are not taking the lies anymore. We know the truth, we have pictures of the truth so they might as well tell the truth.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:57 PM
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29. riiight. give or take 390.
Math must be very difficult for some people. :eyes:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 09:55 PM
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35. It doesn't matter anyway. The more that try to protest Cindy,
the better for our cause. They just keep making themselves look worse and worse.
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