I don't have the stomach to go over to FreeRepublic...

[Vektor]

But I have seen some of the threads that others have pasted snippets of here. I have seen sickening hatred in the form of heinous attacks on Cindy Sheehan. How anyone in their right mind, with a grain of humanity, could mock a grieving mother who lost her son at war is beyond me - beyond all comprehension.

Answer me this, those of you brave enough to wade in the quagmire of rancor that is Freepland - have ANY of them, even a single person over there, expressed compassion toward her? Has there been even a single voice of reason over there who has been willing to overlook her differing political beliefs and admit that she has suffered a great loss and deserves empathy and understanding?

I only ask, because it keeps me awake at night thinking about the possibility that every single one of those people is THAT abominable, and that there's not a shred of decency among the lot of them.

I don't expect good news, but I just needed to know.

[madeline_con]

1. Sometimes, the dissenters just do't post in certain threads....

to avoid being attacked. While It's unlikely anyone over there is against the war, some may be agianst trashing Cindy. If they say anything, they'd be so flamed, why bother?

[Vektor]

3. Makes sense...

I guess they'd catch a world of shit if they defended Cindy. I just can't imagine that say, a mother of a young man Casey's age could participate in bashing a grieving mother. Not that I don't think the Freeps are capable of some pretty horrible stuff - but what some of them are saying about her - it seems bad by even Repuke standards.

[madeline_con]

9. I was attacked ...

when I tried to remind them of our "liberation" of Iraq after they'd gone to Arab-bashing in a thread.

I was called a troll (which I was), but I thought a gentle reminder would bring some sanity back to the thread, get the chest poofing going. No such luck.

You can't really say anything if you have half a brain. They can smell your brain a mile way, and they make it their mission to eliminate it!

I can't go over there for long. It's way too freaky. I'll check out a thread if someone posts it here, but that's the extent of it.

On my 2nd try (new name), I didn't get booted, but I can't really put it to any use. It's futile to try. They're crazy!

[FreedomAngel82]

13. Interesting

So they were bashing them and then turn around and it's we're freeing them? :crazy:

[madeline_con]

18. No, I reminded them of the "liberation"....

hoping to bring them out of their HATE ARABS trance.

It didn't work, they turned on me like a pack of wild rats.





You didn't think I'd insult dogs, did you? :evilgrin:

[FourStarDemocrat]

36. I think they knew your were a troll because even they don't buy that we

"liberated" Iraq. Even they, a bunch of sheeple morons know it is ridiculous to even mention something so absurb as liberating between good'ole boy freepers, unless you're going to try to use it in an argument for justification of the war when debating someone who's anti war.

[madeline_con]

40. Oh, o.k. I get the "logic" there.

They bogglethe minds of normal people.

[Vektor]

14. I have that concern too...

they brag about "liberating" Iraq, but then use horribly racist degrading terms to describe the Iraqi people. It's foul.

[madeline_con]

21. Exactly....

They go from the "noble work" being done to, "Nuke those raghead bastards!" in the same sentence. :crazy:

[Vektor]

25. Quite a stretch...

But they do do that don't they? Some of the outright racist comments I have seen posted here (from FR) boggle the mind. So many of them don't even try to pretend they aren't bigots!

[madeline_con]

43. I've heard mention fo how "ungrateful" Iraqis are....

That must be what bugs them, that the flowers that were supposed to be thrown at the soldiers' feet weren't forthcoming.

[Vektor]

44. Ungrateful for the occupation and mass casualties?

Imagine that!

[madeline_con]

46. I know, what are they thinking?

It's for their own good!

[Vektor]

48. And we are

"great liberators!"

[madeline_con]

54. Islamic Theocracy, YAY!

I'll bet they'll never be able to thank us enough.

[karlrschneider]

35. We need a new word for "cognitive dissonance" plus "hypocrisy"

I guess "shithouse rat crazy" covers it, but it's a little cumbersome.
:eyes:

[Vektor]

37. I've always liked

"batshit crazy" myself...

[madeline_con]

47. If you switch the words around....

Crazier'n a shithouse rat rolls off the tongue easier. :)

[Vektor]

50. It's accurate too.

Because that they are!

[no_to_war_economy]

2. dont waste your time on those people, they are lost

i saw them across the street at camp casey and didnt even give them a look

fuck them and fuck freerepublic

[Vektor]

4. Sad they'd be so hateful.

And stupid me for caring about the human condition, but sometimes I just can't help it.

[Elwood P Dowd]

5. You don't understand the mind of a freeper

or most repukes for that matter. You see, they would use the death of a loved one to advance their agenda or make a ton of money. Look how ecstatic and excited Bush became after 9-11. All those dead people gave him new life.

Freepers and repukes believe Cindy and most liberals think the same way. It's similar to the con artist who thinks everyone is out to get him. In their little world, they would use the death of a loved one to advance their agenda, so Cindy must be doing the same thing.

[Erika]

7. Excellent analysis

Throw in the freepers would drink the Bush kool aid at his command faster than the Jonestown group did. These people don't think, they just worship W and follow his orders. These people are not intellectual giants. They are Bushbots.

[Vektor]

8. That's unfortunate.

And that's a mindset I really don't wish to understand. But I fear you may be right.

[madeline_con]

16. The RWer who first suggested this...

said "political agenda", right?

(I don't know who first said it, but the RW radio guys sure love to read it!)

Then, it was pointed out that Cindy's not running for office.

She's doing it for the same reason a RWer would make someone puta crossing guard in front of a school- so other parents don't have to hurt like she does.

She's trying to stop the war, andthere are actually people who want to stop her! That's tough to comprehend...

[Vektor]

20. I have a REALLY hard time understanding

how anyone could be "pro-WAR." Sure, there are times when military action is justifiable, but how could anyone be enthusiastic about war? It's sometimes a necessary thing, (not in this case, however) but NEVER a good thing.

[Elwood P Dowd]

31. Most pro-war freepers have never been in the military

The ones that have probably avoided combat. I have two sisters who worship Bush and the war. Their husbands managed to avoid the draft during Vietnam, and none of their children have been in the military. I was drafted during Vietnam and family friends were killed or wounded over there, but it still doesn't register. Only my mother and late father (he was in WWII) ever understood war.

My sisters actually believe we're fighting for our freedom in Iraq. Nothing my mother says and nothing I say will register. Fellow workers, church, Fox News, Limbaugh, and their husbands have put up an impregnable shield that simply cannot be penetrated.

[Vektor]

34. Ah, good ol' brainwashing.

I think "war worship" is usually practiced by those who deep down feel weak and powerless. It allows them to pretend they are a part of some heroic, brave movement.

[madeline_con]

39. "... fighting for our freedom in Iraq."

So we don't have to fight them here....

:banghead:

[Vektor]

42. Oh, well yeah...

Because there were so many hostile Iraqis storming our borders before Bush's holy crusade!

:sarcasm:

[madeline_con]

45. To hear him tell it, there was a "cell" in every city

just waiting for the call.

[Vektor]

51. Ehhh....well, I'm surprised

we haven't heard from them yet.

Considering we attacked and occupied their country quite some time ago.

Seriously? Shrub was saying that IRAQI terrorists are hiding out all over the U.S.?

[madeline_con]

53. Well, just terrorists in general.

They all hate our freedom. :eyes:

[madeline_con]

33. Agreed...

American military personnel sign up with the idea of defending their country from legitimate threats.

Then they get sent to hell on earth by a short little draft-dodging coke addict whose VP had "other priorities" during the Vietnam war!

Of course, there are those who believe the hype, and are really dangerous to the innocent Iraqis who just want some peace and quiet.

The military Mom who was attacked by O'Reilly, what's her name?
She said if Saddam was such a threat, Daddy Bush would have taken care of him during the first Gulf War.

He and Schwartzkoff (sp) both went into detial about not becoming an occupying force and getting stuck for years, but does DUH-bya read any of it? No, he's still struggling through "My Pet Goat"!!!

[uppityperson]

6. Yes. I saw one when I clicked on a link someone had posted here

I too wanted to see. Yes, there are posters who are telling others to not be totally buttheads.

[Vektor]

10. Are they getting jumped on

by the more hardcore freepers? I'm glad to know there are at least a couple not willing to stoop so low as to bash Cindy. Granted, this doesn't make me feel good about freepers, mind you, but it's good to know.

[uppityperson]

19. Of course they are, but they don't write "ok you are right"

[Vektor]

22. Well good.

At least the few dissenters are holding ground.

[SeaRust]

11. try alt.politics.democratÊ ----

some of these posts make free republic look like a hotbed of liberalism--hehe

[Vektor]

15. I think I'll stay away from there...

I can only take so much insanity.

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. I remember when I first joined DU back in early 2001, I was

directed to Freeperville. I was shocked at the level of hatred and non compassion there. I believe my first post was about my observations of that site. The level of hatred floored me! I can't wrap my mind around it. I don't think Cindy Sheehan set out to make this political, the repukes did that. It should not be about politics at all. It's about what is right and what is clearly wrong.

[Vektor]

17. What's really disturbing,

is that most of those Freepers consider themselves "moral."

I'm unsure as to how spreading hate and bigotry is justifiable...

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. Apparently they don't think they are spreading hate and bigotry.

:shrug:

[Vektor]

24. I guess not.

They think it's "God's will."

[SammyWinstonJack]

28. Ah yes "God's will"

Well I am an atheist, so maybe that's why I don't get them?

[Vektor]

32. Hahahah

Well, I'm agnostic, and I don't get them either. Most of the genuine Christians I know do not support hate-mongering and bigotry, but most of them are Dems!

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. Most of them are Dems.

Yes that explains it. We Dems whether atheist, agnostics, christians or whatever, tend to be open minded and not into hate-mongering or bigotry. Personally, I just believe in live and let live. Seems the most reasonable way to exist.

[Vektor]

41. Seems that way to me too.

I'm not sure why that's so hard for some people to understand. I guess there are those out there who are not happy unless they are oppressing someone else.

[Erika]

26. Freepers are not nice people

They are Bushbots who detest anyone who isn't.

[Vektor]

27. Try as I might...

I cannot think of a SINGLE reason to like Bush or support him. He has no redeeming qualities. I can't imagine what they see in him.

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. Well they can detest me all they want, I will never be a bushbot.

Nor a Mepublican greed pig.

[Erika]

30. Freepers aren't interested in compassion

It's not their thing. That might make them face the Bush policies on our poor and needy, innocent Iraqis, etc. They won't go there.

[Elwood P Dowd]

49. Freepers treat wars like football games

"We is kicking their ass. Did you see that bomb hit in Baghdad? Musta' killed 500 ragheads." USA, USA, USA, USA

[Vektor]

52. "Culture of life" at its best!

I guess they don't care that pregnant women die when you carpet bomb whole cities.