Sheehan Divorce?????

[jackster]

sorry if a dupe, but I just saw this.....

http://technorati.com/tag/cindy+sheehan

http://dangifiknow.blogspot.com/2005/08/case-id-ffl087021-sheehan-patrick-vs.html

There is a document on the website of the Superior Court of California County of Solano which describes Case ID: FFL087021 - SHEEHAN, PATRICK VS. CINDY, filed Friday, August 12th, 2005. The case is described as "D - Dissolution without kids".

Oh my God!

[Dogmudgeon]

1. So what?

First, lots of people get divorced. Lots of people get divorced and stay on good terms.

Second, "Sheehan" isn't exactly a rare name. I've met a couple.

Third, it's nobody's business but theirs. Certainly not the RNC's.

--p!

[wake.up.america]

5. Is it possible for her to have filed for divorce while in Crawford?

Nobody's business except their own.

Is it true?

So what.

I would not surprised if this were just another attempt at putting in her bad light.

[jackster]

11. go to the links....

Patrick Sheehan is the respondent.

[thecrow]

38. no, he is the PETITIONER

http://courtconnect.solanocourts.com/pls/bprod_cc/ck_public_qry_cpty.cp_personcase_details_idx?backto=D&soundex_ind=&partial_ind=&last_name=&first_name=&middle_name=&begin_date=&end_date=&case_type=&id_code=@620859

[jackster]

41. sorry you are right...

where IS my coffee?????

[jackster]

10. You are right....

but if this IS true, then the righties will have a field day with it. It was Patrick Sheehan's family that wrote the infamous "letter" disavowing any connection with Cindy Sheehan.

More importantly, if it is true, my heart aches even more for this family. Understandably, a marriage can be stressed to the breaking point upon the loss of a child, but to have it happen while one of the spouses is in the middle of such a watershed event as this is mind boggling. Divorce is stressful enough without it having to be aired publicly for the entire world to see and dissect.

[emdee]

114. Exactly. These are the same people....

who are mum about O'Reilly's affairs and/or stalking - they need to stop excusing their own while trashing honest, decent people -

emdee

[yvr girl]

2. Death of a child is a huge stress on a marriage

I hope it's not true, but if it is...it's their business.

[cornermouse]

6. 100% agreement.

Death of a child (also disability) is a major cause for divorce and it is none of our business.

[jackster]

14. yes, it is their business

and not ours. Agreed. We can grieve with them however. I only posted so as to

1) determine if true
2) express my sorrow
3) get ahead of the hate-mongers who will certainly use this to further smear Ms. Sheehan

"So what" may be responses of some of you, but I can guarantee you that it won't be the response of the likes of Malkin, Gallagher, O'Reilly, etc.

[Dogmudgeon]

22. I hope you didn't take that personally

I had "aimed" it for the RWers who will try to use it.

You're right about that, though. The Hate Brigade will talk about it ad nauseam. But I strongly feel that people are fed up with that noise, and it will backfire.

Their fifteen minutes of fame has expired, and poorly-concealed ridicule by morally-challenged conservative ranters looks every bit as hypocritical as we've known it to be for years.

America's response will be "Focus on Your OWN damn Family!" Cindy Sheehan's honest, straightforward reactions and requests are far more powerful testimonies than any turgid members of the Rectal Right bloviating about the sinfulness of family heartbreak.

--p!

[KitchenWitch]

3. If this is true, and it is THE Cindy Sheehan

I am certain this is no surprise to her...people usually have marital troubles for a long time before they actually file for divorce.

[Bluebear]

4. Oh no, a death of a child often results in divorce

Strength and peace to them both if this is true.

[fooj]

15. Yes. May they both find peace.

I wept today when I read that Cindy married her high school sweetheart and after Casey's death they were separated. As it is none of my business, I couldn't help but ache inside for them both. This ruthless administration has ripped apart many a stable family. I can't even imagine the loss this woman feels...

Peace.

[Montauk6]

7. And I've even heard of divorces among couples who suffered the loss

of a child.

Are we going to next hear from "inside sources" criticizing Sheehan as a mother? Probably. I'm sure The Machine will find (and pay) some neighbor who'll talk about how unhappy the child looked around his mother, or some such nonsense as that.

[Mika]

8. Let the 2,3,4 time divorced repukes make a deal outta this (if true)

Time for Newt, Livingston, Limpballs, etc to speak out agin her for a divorce. LOL

[jackster]

17. good point! thanks!

[pnorman]

9. "Dissolution without kids"???

>
>
And our family, Casey's dad and my other three children, are 100 percent behind me and agree with me philosophically about what's going on. I just talked to my husband, and he said, he said, Cindy, you know I've always supported you philosophically. I know George Bush did the wrong thing, and I had nothing to do with what my sister wrote.
>
>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8925175/

pnorman

[Bluebear]

12. Thank you so much, pnorman

Well done.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

13. I wonder...

Could some ratfucker have filed falsely?

[China_cat]

21. Wasn't there a case a few years ago

where the right wing, trying to discredit some woman running for office, planted the info 'check on the rap sheet for ....(full name)'? And it came up with numerous offenses including theft and prostitution.

The only thing was that even though the name was exactly the same, it was a totally different person. And the people who planted it KNEW it.

[juajen]

43. T'was that woman who gave story to California paper

about Arnold harrassing her; remember, all of a sudden, right before the election, she was discredited for a rap sheet, when it was not her. Of course, after the election she was exonerated. That what you mean?

[China_cat]

78. Yes, that's exactly it.

[pnorman]

20. Here's a little more:

>
>
Born on Memorial Day, Casey Austin Sheehan was the first of Cindy and Patrick Sheehan's four children. In an essay she wrote for the liberal online magazine Truthout this year, Cindy Sheehan described Casey's early years as a typically suburban experience. He loved Nintendo, G.I. Joes, watching Wrestlemania and the Los Angeles Dodgers.
>
>
http://news.findlaw.com/ap/o/624/08-12-2005/e3070035c9b1f3f1.html

pnorman

There's a Rovian stench to this "discovery".

pnorman

[POAS]

31. I hate to throw a monkeywrench into the works

But I believe that in a case such as this the phrase referring to children applies only to minor children where custody would be a factor in the dispute.

[tanyev]

35. Yes.

Children over 18 are not named in divorce proceedings.

[BiggJawn]

104. "Without Kids" is not a legal term.

Not EVEN in Collie-For-Nya.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

111. I just did a search and found out that it seems to be for this county.

Go to the pulldown menu for case type.

http://court-connect.solanocourts.com/pls/bprod_cc/ck_public_qry_cpty.cp_personcase_setup_idx

[POAS]

119. nice find.......thanks for the defense......n/t

[BiggJawn]

135. Who'd a thunk it?

I guess it never occured to them that now someone could bring a divorce proceding with contested custody of young GOATS....

"She's gonna take the Billy, and I get the Nanny, but we can't decide about the KIDS!"

We use the phrase "Minor Child" in Indiana

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

136. Lol! This just lets you know how far the dumbing down of America has gone

[senseandsensibility]

141. Weird.

Thanks. Strange that they use the term "child" in other case types. I think it sounds unprofessional and I am surprised that legally trained workers would state it that way.

[WolverineDG]

116. it means no kids under 18

if all the children are adults, you don't need to fool with child support, custody, & visitation.

dg

[bluestateguy]

16. I believe the ex-husband still supports her and what she is doing

otherwise, I fail to see the relevance of her going through a process that almost half of all adult Americans will experience in their lifetimes.

[jackster]

18. okay, so maybe I'm the only one

who sees that if it is true, and I was hoping that someone could refute it (!!), that this is going to be the new smear tactic of the right.

I'm just so tired of these people slamming a grieving mother! As a mother myself, it infuriates me to see the hate directed toward her because she is compelled to follow her principles and want answers for her son's death!

Ms. Sheehan amazes me - I'm in awe of her. How she can handle all this so graciously is something to behold. To add to the burden she carries now is so cruel!

[latebloomer]

95. well, you're probably right

but it just will show how they're desperately grasping at straws to discredit her.

[SoCalDem]

103. Her husband is not Casey's father..

The state of her marriage in no way affects her feeling about her dead son. If she was a divorced mother protesting the death of her son, would it make him any less dead??

In fact the crumbling marriage may have actually helped her come to terms with his death, and to decide to DO something about it

[headin_south]

128. Dang...

well, hopefully that will come out soon (that the action isn't cuz of her protest/vigil).

[HamdenRice]

19. My concern: RW attack dogs will characterize protest as "meltdown"

Any time anyone goes through a political protest and a family crisis, the RW may try to characterize and therefore deligitimize the protest as part of an emotional meltdown. That's my concern.

[pnorman]

25. Most likely, this is a different person altogether,

(and some Rovian ratfuckery). But if somehow it were to be "true", watch the Bush-lovers try to "heroize" the husband. But by ANY normal standards, he would be regarded as a Benedict Arnold or a Judas Iscariot ... not to mention ANTI-AMERICAN.

pnorman

[Libby2]

23. If this is "our" Cindy

then it would come as no surprise to me.

Death takes an ugly toll on family.
I wish them all the best.

[evilqueen]

24. afaik

I recall reading they were separated. In any case, it's no one's business but their own.

[Libby2]

26. I agree.....n/t

[newswolf56]

27. Be of good cheer. The fascists and Christofascists who will...

despise Cindy for this already despise her. The rest of us -- those of us who love her -- we will merely give her a heartfelt hug, whether real or virtual, and so grow in our strengthening solidarity.

[Junkdrawer]

28. jackster, how did you come across this info?

:shrug:

[jackster]

42. I clicked on a

Cindy Sheehan link in a DailyKos diary and it came up on a blog. I posted the two links I had.

[rateyes]

29. When it comes to divorce..

the RWers live in glass houses. Still, it won't keep them from throwing stones, because of their hypocritical nature.

[fujiyama]

30. How is this relevant?

This just shows how much stress the family has been under.

Fuck anyone that wants to make political hay out of this.

[ThomWV]

44. You Are Exactly Right

It has no bearing on her son's death, Bush's lies, the state of the Nation, or tomorrow's weather.

[H2O Man]

32. Bullshit.

No one is trying to "smear" her with this. You are the only one even pretending its an issue.

[jackster]

45. okay so maybe it isn't an issue

maybe no one will care

I care that someone is hurting and that Cindy will need even extra love and support from us all

Maybe the righties will leave it alone

I doubt it

don't attack me - I'm only reporting what I found on a link

[H2O Man]

57. It's none of your business.

There are only two "reasons" people would start a thread on this that I can think of: {1} if they were indeed trying to "smear" someone for a possible divorce -- and this could only include a tiny insignificant faction of the right-wing, considering that Reagan was divorced; and {2} those who for a variety of reasons lack appropriate boundries, and can not detect a difference in supporting Cindy's public effort to confront the evils of Bush's war, and butting their noses in her private business.

[Vickers]

33. Wow, George, your "war" is killing people, breaking up families,

tearing the country and the world apart...you must be so proud! :sarcasm:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

37. The Military's divorce rate has soared. Yep, Family Values..........

[union_maid]

34. It's not that much of a surprise

He hasn't been there with her. He's not speaking out against her either, but there don't seem to be interviews with him. He's not part of what she's doing. It doesn't have a lot bearing on anything. She's speaking for herself and has made that clear all along. No doubt the right will try to use it, but I think it's too late for that. If that was working they'd have been able to use the separation which had been mentioned before. They'll give it the old chickenhawk try, of course. Just ignore them.

[DanCa]

36. Now comes the smear and watch out shes catholic too.

Ugly ugly people.

[kentuck]

39. The Great Divider should be proud...

that he has now sunk to dividing individual families.

[flordehinojos]

40. maybe they have grown in different directions..or maybe just cindy sheehan

grew...maybe her new growth and direction is opening her up to become our LECH WALESA ... CINDY SHEEHAN,the one who stands against bush and brings him down... maybe she cannot stay in a suffocating marriage where you either support bush and you are out {how so like the bush line you are either with us or you are against us . or, maybe it is just him who cannot face up to his bush supporting parents and has buckled under their pressure rather than stand with his wife.

go figure! it is none of our business--even when the right wingnuts will make a federal case out of it...they are so dirty, they will grab at anything, mud, shit, whatever, just to smear anyone and make a case to their equally nut-likes, the sort of lee attwater-karl rove types

.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

46. This thread is in bad taste & something about the filing doesn't look

right. Is Cindy's legal name Cindy or is it, like most Cindys, Cynthia??? Could some freeper have filed those court papers? Also, there are no middle initials for either Patrick or Cindy.

[jackster]

47. how is this in bad taste?

I'm merely reporting what I found - don't we all try to stay informed?

I am hoping that someone with more skills than I can determine if this IS true?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. If you like staying informed with a tabloid mindset. Her being separated

is not news, and it is totally irrelevant except for the fact that very often the death of a child can tear a family apart. I am not in that marriage, and I have no idea, And It Is None Of My Business. I am divorced and it's no biggie. What are the statistics for divorce these days? 1 out of every 4 or more?

[ClassWarrior]

51. Wasn't Reagan divorced?? Gingrinch four or five times??

NGU.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

58. Warner of VA 3 times, Bob Barr....... ....... nt

[ClassWarrior]

50. Yeah, Ken Starr "stayed informed" of other shit that was none of his...

...fucking business. And he giggled and rubbed his pasty white thighs over it. I guess that wasn't in bad taste either.

NGU.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

60. Lol! Or J. Edgar Hoover and his "private files"..probably salivating

as he was zipping up his latest bustier........

[wovenpaint]

55. Amen

Something seems amiss here....

[datasuspect]

146. it looks like a spoof site

for one: don't most courts have a goverment-type extension and not a ".com?"

this is fishy as hell

[eridani]

48. This actually looks like an "empty nest" divorce to me

Maybe not just Casey's death, but the fact that all the kids are now out of the house. It isn't unusual for people to focus on raising a family and then have major identity crises when they have finished doing that. More than a few find that when the daily doings of their kids are not there as a conversational subject anymore, they have very little else to say to each other.

[Mr.Green93]

52. Her private live is nobody's business

Her Private life is Private. It is separate from her Public life and should be left Alone.....Cindy Sheehan will be this years Nobel Peace Prize Winner!

[johnnie]

53. What the FUCK?

This is a bullshit post and you should feel like an idiot. What does this have to do with what is going on here? If this is true, then it is another horrible aftermath of asshole's bullshit "presidency".
Thanks for giving us the "news" on Cindy's love life, now get back to the issue that we are concerned with here, not a fucking "Fox news" fuck-job.

[H2O Man]

59. Well said. n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

62. Thank you johnnie, Exactly! n/t

[ohio_liberal]

54. Wow

That's some shitty timing. I feel terrible for Cindy that she might have to cope with this while she's in Crawford.

[Alamom]

56. Not Uncommon

There is an incredible amount of information regarding the stress a couple or family goes through due to the death of a child.

Any manner in which a child dies can break a family apart, however violent death seems to be worse.

Coping, is their business. Sometimes, it takes years to come to terms with the loss. This should not reflect on who the Sheehan's are, in any way....except they loved their son and lost him.



John Walsh

Ouote:" You can deal with the loss of a spouse, a parent, a sister, a brother, however difficult it may be. But you are not supposed to bury your children. They are your immortality. Eighty percent of the parents of murdered children wind up in divorce."


http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Profiles/People_Profile/0,2540,101,00.html.



MADD

A Child's Death and the Marital Relationship: Do Most Bereaved Parents Divorce?

http://www.madd.org/news/0,1056,4360__print,00.html


These are just a couple of links...there are dozens written by experts in family crisis.


My youngest brother died in 1976 when he was 10, due to a medical error. I was 23, he was the baby, with 3 other siblings. It took years, incredible resolution and support to keep our family from deteriorating.
Almost 30 years later, my Mother is 73 and the sadness is still in her eyes. My Dad died 8 years ago with it in his.

[johnnie]

61. Hi Alamom!

Welcome to DU.

[Alamom]

64. Thank you...n/t

[DemonFighterLives]

120. Welcome to DU!

So sorry to hear of your grief. I lost my mother last December. Even though she has a great life until 79, the loss is affecting my sister very hard.
That John Walsh quote kind of says it all. 80% divorce rate for parents of murdered children. The murderer in chief has wreaked havoc on many families and their is much suffering coming yet. Many people are maimed and I'm sure divorce will follow for a bunch of them.

The issue here is not just about Cindy, but the population at large. I don't know the details of Cindy's possible divorce, but feel that we should still be able to talk about it.
:hug:

[jackster]

63. wow....

I had no idea that some of you are as mean spirited as the other side - how are we any different than them if we eat our own?

Sooner or later this was going to come out whether true or not. If I offended anyone, I apologize, however, there is no need to attack me. My post was in no way intended to be disresptful or an invasion of privacy. If true, it is a matter of public record. If not, then hopefully someone will jump on it and disprove it.

Jeeeshhhhh......

Did I make a mistake in joining this community?

[H2O Man]

65. The issue isn't

if it is "true" or not. The issue is an unhealthy lack of boundries.

[jackster]

67. Boundaries?

you have to be kidding. I didn't dig into the details - I merely reported what I found, all which is publicly available. If you are so repulsed, then why do you keep reading and responding to the thread?

[H2O Man]

69. "repulsed"

Interesting choice of words. Why did you use it?

[jackster]

71. you find this in bad taste

when I find something in bad taste, I'm repulsed. Aren't you? That's it. Nothing more.

[H2O Man]

91. "in bad taste"

Like "repulsive," that is out of your mouth, not mine. I pointed out that posting a dozen times on a thread about her personal business illustrates a lack of healthy boundries. Rather than address that, you decide to venture in another direction.

[ohio_liberal]

66. No, you didn't make a mistake in joining

:pals:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

68. Wow.... Meanspirited? Eatting our own? It seems that believe it

or not, in your innocence (?), you are doing that very well yourself. What don't you get that a relationship between a husband and wife are a private matter, as is the possible dissolution of their marriage?

[ohio_liberal]

70. Unfortunately, it's a matter of public record

And the wingnuts will be all over this in a matter of hours, regardless of this post. Cindy's become such a visible target for those "compassionate conservatives". *sigh*

[jackster]

72. Thanks Ohio Liberal

for being a sane voice here. Is everyone so afraid of trolls or are so paranoid that they are unable to stand the revelation of public information that makes them uncomfortable?

[ohio_liberal]

73. I think emotions are running very high

Don't take it personally.

[datasuspect]

144. can you explain

how this supposed recitation of facts contained in the public record is relevant to w's cowardice?

how is it relevant to a mother's protest?

what connection are you trying to make with your information? or are you just baldly blurting this out without any context?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

74. I don't know if you saw my other post. The filing doesn't look right to me

Cindy is a bit younger than me, and most people around my age with the name Cindy are really Cynthias. Also, no middle initials. Can't anyone with pull create a filing?

[ohio_liberal]

76. Don't know if it's real or not

If it is the case that it's fraudulent, it doesn't hurt to bring it into the light to figure it out. And to support Cindy as well.

[ohio_liberal]

80. And if it is real

I can't help but think it was done now for maximum damage.

[jackster]

79. I hope this is the case...

but a judge and the petitioner's lawyers are mentioned and it looks legit from here. We'll have to see....

[yellowdogintexas]

109. this smacks of Rove...the terminology is so ..not legalese,

if you get my drift.

dissolution without kids.
just doesn't sound right to me.

I would expect dissolution with no minor offspring.

"without kids" sounds like they are talking about baby goats.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

110. On edit... Dissolution without kids is actually a filing type in

Solano county.

http://court-connect.solanocourts.com/pls/bprod_cc/ck_public_qry_cpty.cp_personcase_setup_idx

[jackster]

83. According to the links...

it's already on the conservative blogs

[ohio_liberal]

85. Yeah, I understand that

I mean that wingnut TV and print media will pick it up.

[jackster]

77. Private matters are private matters.

I don't care why the Sheehans are divorcing because it's none of my business. I care that others will take this and use it against her and I care that a she is bearing an additional burden. I care that the timing stinks as someone noted earlier. I care that a family is dissolving. I don't care WHY!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

82. And you are assuming that this is a burden to her. And yes, I agree the

timing does stink, and I also think that the filing looks a bit suspicious to me.

[jackster]

86. Maybe your divorce was no burden to you,

but every divorce I know of was a burden to those involved. Added stress, pain, grief, loss, worry.

Maybe you are right and that this would not be a burden. I am only speaking from my experiences and my 50 years on the planet.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

92. I've been on this planet for 53 years, so don't play the age card with me.

[jackster]

97. Wow...

I didn't know that noting that I've been around for 50 years and have seen alot means I'm "playing the age card."

I think you mentioned earlier that you were older than Cindy and since she's what 47 or 48 I realized that you were older than me. There was no disrespect intended.

Why are you so antagonist? I'm on YOUR SIDE!

[fishnfla]

87. Damn you jackster for posting this information!

The last thing we need is to be discussing this information! Only people who will use it to smear Cindy should know!:sarcasm:


Dont worry about this "blame the messenger" stuff jackster. Its a knee jerk response on DU.

By tomorrow there will be a slew of threads on this. And it'll still be your fault :P

[jackster]

93. thanks for the laugh....

:toast:

Now I can get up and do something useful instead of lying here in bed posting!

[kentuck]

75. Don't let this become the story...

and overwhelm the good thing she is doing down in Crawford for all of us.

[DistressedAmerican]

81. This Post Stinks. I Mean Gross. You Sound Excited...

I wonder why you choose to make such a big deal out of more suffering resulting from the this evil fucking war?

Shame on you. No REALLY! Shame on you!

[jackster]

88. I'm sorry you feel this way....

however I stand by the fact that I merely posted something I found on what appears to be conservative blogs. They found it fast and jumped on it.

[Scout1071]

118. I agree with the other posters. Its the fact that you seem to be

almost gleeful over this news just plain pisses me off and does seem suspicious.

If you have been reading along, you would know that Cindy was separated. This happens with a high percentage of those who've lost children. Especially those with grown children.


Now stop trying to distract and deflect. Let's get back to talking about what a miserable fucking mess your President has made of this war.

[jackster]

123. HE IS NOT MY PRESIDENT!

I never voted for the man and take offense that you would conclude that I am one of them because I posted this information.

You are no better than they if you are unwilling to give anyone the benefit of the doubt!

I knew Cindy and her husband were separated. I also knew that it was his family that circulated the letter distancing themselves from her. If you read my earlier posts you would have seen that I noted that death of a child can cause stress on a marriage. We do not know why they are divorcing and the reason is none of our business.

THE FACT THAT THE RIGHT HAD THE INFORMATION FIRST AND WILL USE IT TO SMEAR ALL OF US IS OUR BUSINESS!

[Scout1071]

125. Of course they had it. Why wouldn't they try to smear a grieving mother?

This will be my last post on this thread because it's a non-topic.

I hope you'll agree and let this go.

[DemonFighterLives]

127. Scout, this is a discussion board last I checked

We seem to be able to discuss most everything else, so why not this.
Being the smear has started we need to spin this to how b*sh has destroyed more people's lives with death, maiming and lies.

[ClassWarrior]

130. A discussion akin to the one on the shape of Clinton's penis...

...that Ken Starr shoved in our faces while rubbing his pasty white thighs? Is that the kind of discussion you want Demon?

NGU.

[DemonFighterLives]

149. I don't know where that's coming from and nasty as well

PS-the name is Demonfighter and not Demon.
I want subjects to be able to be discussed here and not censored.
Divorce is their business, but the righties are grabbing it, so we may as well know what is going on.

[ohio_liberal]

90. It sounded to me

like he was more amazed at the timing.

[Karmadillo]

84. Ooooooh. Divorce. See ya', Cindy. Morality now weighs fatally against you.

I have no choice but to support the treasonous scum in the White House that lied and lied and lied to lead us into a disastrous, illegal, immoral war. More troops! McCain/Biden in 2008!

[Iris]

89. So? Her husband's an asshole.

There are reaonable way to dissolve a marriage. This isn't one of them. He could have waited 4 more weeks. What a jerk.

[fishnfla]

96. Dont forget, Casey was his son too

No fair piling on

[Iris]

101. No shit.

Yeah, he was his son, too. So why doesn't he act like a man and hold it until his wife sees this thing through?

[fishnfla]

106. Who knows Iris?

I sure as hell dont, do you? As was pointed out all over the place, the death of a child can wreak havoc on a marriage. People deal with their grief in a million different heavy ways. Its a downer, no?

We can call Cindy a hero. I call bullshit on blasting the father and calling him an asshole or a jerk . Thats all.

[Iris]

121. That's fine.

But I believe the man should act with some honor, which in my opinion means not causing more grief the mother of his child than necessary.

I still don't see why he couldn't wait to file for a divorce. It seems like the most decent thing you could do for your child's mother.

[earth mom]

138. NO- he is making a statement and it is one of control.

I don't approve of what you are doing so I will divorce your ass!

He's a TOTAL JERK, if it is true that is.

[Junkdrawer]

94. Posted at michellemalkin.com at 06:22 AM...

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003250.htm

[jackster]

99. Her source is exactly the one I posted....

the smear revs up.....

my prayer is that the universe envelope in love - Cindy Sheehan and the other grieving family members who have lost loved ones in a war built on lies for greed

My son is volunteering for Iraq - I don't want to have to feel that same pain. A mother's loss is everlasting

[coffeenap]

112. Some support for you here, jackster. Best wishes to you as your

child goes forth. Also, in my opinion, your good intentions show through in your original post. (I got bashed a few times early on too--almost quit, but realized this is a huge group of people and there will always be some who take things the wrong way.)

I do not doubt that it is likely someone is planting this info--remember, everyone, what was done to Andy Stephenson by a bunch of so-called amateurs.

Peace.

[ohio_liberal]

105. The letter from the family

...didn't have the effect the wingnuts desired (except to fire up other demented wingnuts), so now they're going to lob this at her through the media. Drudge will pick it up, then Fox, and then the CBS, NBC, CNN, and ABC will put add breathless little blurbs about this to their reports. This is how it works.

[thecrow]

148. Dissolution without KIDS?

Do they really write legal files like this in California?

Wouldn't they say CHILDREN?? I think this thing is a fake.

[latebloomer]

98. Sorry, jackster, for the attacks!

It's legitimate for you to bring this out, as I'm sure the media will soon.

I think it's terrible that people attack you so viciously for it.

Belated welcome to DU!

:hi:

[jackster]

100. thank you....

my heart is heavy for the Sheehans....

[latebloomer]

102. you're welcome!

And my heart goes out to you-- Your son volunteered for Iraq?

I am so very sorry.

:hug:

[RSchewe]

107. Is this an attempt at invading people's lives like with Terry Schiavo?

How is this anyone's business?

[ohio_liberal]

108. In the real world, it's nobody's business

But, it's a matter of public record. The wingnuttia are looking for every possible way to descredit Cindy Sheehan, and they will use this for all it's worth. It's up to us to support and defend her.

[kentuck]

113. FOX is on the phone with Mr. Sheehan as we speak....?

attempting to get him to discredit Cindy Sheehan, the mother of his son which was lost to the lie in Iraq? Who is looking for publicity? Who has the moral high ground?

[ohio_liberal]

115. self-delete

n/t

[LibDemAlways]

117. If her husband filed the papers while she

was baking in the Texas sun conducting her vigil on behalf of their son, I'd say his timing sucks. Sounds cruel and callous to me.

[DemonFighterLives]

124. Yes and also fits with the smearboats playbook.

I'm sure Rove is smiling and dubby is smirking and cheney is sneering.

[Generic Other]

122. Another fine mess to lay at Bush's doorstep!

Poor Cindy. Betrayed by her president. And now her husband.

[Horse with no Name]

126. What really gives it an air of fakeness is that in divorce papers

It is generally written Sheehan v. Sheehan
not Sheehan, Patrick vs.Cindy
Cindy is a little older than I am and most kids during that time were named Cynthia. Also, most Catholics have very "formal" names--not trendy ones. These people are devout Catholics.(purely speculation of course).
This smells like rightwing foolery-ala Dan Rather.
I cannot imagine any husband would pull a stunt like this at this time--knowing that the mother of his dead son would be attacked unmercifully for it. If nothing else, his living children would hate him for doing it.
I don't believe any of it.

Edited to add:
I found this while looking

http://courtconnect.solanocourts.com/pls/bprod_cc/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=SF023605&begin_date=&end_date=

SF023605 - SMITH, M G vs SMITH, A L

[Dogmudgeon]

129. And note "Dissolution without KIDS..."

Correction added.

"Kids" is way too informal for legal papers.

It's either a hoax, or the Solano court system is seriously lax.

--p!

Correction: There really is such a case

The web info states "This is not an official document." But it's all there.

This whole thing is starting to seriously stink.

--p!

[senseandsensibility]

131. Yes, I noticed the "kids" too

Although I've seen formal signs in restaurants and shopping centers asking parents to control their "kids", I don't think the term is used in legal documents yet. Just a few years ago, while training to be a teacher, we were told not to call students "kids" They are referred to as either children or students. Personally, I don't care for the term "kids" except in very informal situations. But I agree, it would NOT appear in a legal document.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

132. See my post #111. There is a filing type for that in the county.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4346124&mesg_id=4346870

[Rainscents]

142. I been divorce before and this doesn't sound like official divorce paper

to me.

They always refer to Sheehan V Sheehan and about children's, they will always mention how many children's they have together with their names, regardless if they're grown or not! I smell something very fishy about this.


BTW... Divorce paper, NEVER, EVER will say "KIDS"... It's always refer to as CHILDREN, CHILDREN'S or Child!!!

[RSchewe]

133. ...and this has what to do with the war? n/t

[RandomKoolzip]

134. Four Questions:

Yeah?

And?

So?

What?

[earth mom]

137. It's a smear attempt.

Sorry, but IF this true, why did Cindys husband file for divorce right now in the middle of the fight of her life?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everything Cindy is doing is to honor THEIR sons memory!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF true, it shows just how big an asshole he is and how much he wants to control her.

I am absolutely sickened by this and she is well rid of him if it is true.

Her husband should be ashamed of himself.

:puke:

:puke:

:puke:

[pox americana]

139. If it's true, there's probably a little "incentive" coming his way.

There usually is. Like maybe he can stop worrying about bankruptcy. It doesn't take much these days.

[Dogmudgeon]

140. Another Winner!

Connect the dots isn't all that difficult a mental task for anyone. And everyone is going to be playing it.

And Bush will lose.

--p!

[datasuspect]

143. how is this relevant to w's hardon for fucking murder?

as you said:

"oh my god!"

[steve2470]

145. With all due respect, this is just fodder for the RW opponents

I feel bad for Cindy and her family whatever is happening.

[datasuspect]

147. "solanocourts.com?"

you're joking right?

there isn't anything in the URL that indicates it is affiliated with a governmental organization.