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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:31 PM
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Pat Buchanan makes great arguments *against* attacking Iran
http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=6932

When Pat is right, he's really really right. He makes what appears to be a complete, unassailable argument against Bush even thinking about touching Iran. A GREAT READ!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:33 PM
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1. Say what you want about Pat, at least he sticks to his guns...
he's conservative in the old-school fiscal responsibility, no foreign entanglements sort of way.
Of course, he's also old-school in the anti-Semitic, minority-hatin' kinda way.
But at least with him, you know where you stand.
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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:35 PM
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2. Don't forget
He's a Bush-voter.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:42 PM
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3. "a Bush-voter"
It would be interesting if you could explain what that means to you.
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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:06 PM
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6. Pat Buchanan voted for George W. Bush in the 2004 Election
That's what "a Bush-voter" means to me.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:11 PM
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7. He ran against him
in 2000, and has been an outspoken critic of many of the administration's policies.
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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:13 PM
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Yes, but he still voted for him in 2004
when it mattered most. If he was really against the administration's policies, he would have voted Kerry.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:52 PM
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12. Perhaps.
If he voted for Bush, one might put it in an obvious perspective. Pat has several glaring weaknesses, and one is that he is still a true believer in Richard Nixon. As such, he certainly wasn't going to vote for Kerry.

His recent statements on the scandals such as the neocon spy- and Plame would seem to show he is not a Bush fan when it counts the most. Still, I certainly understand why many democrats are less than fond of Pat. I find his ideas of social policy are crude. But his knowledge of foreign policy and some related areas of economics are solid.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:57 PM
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4. he was adament against attacking Iraq too
his Where the Right Went Wrong is a pretty good read. Attacks bush policies on iraq as well as elsewhere.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:13 PM
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8. ALthough after the war started
He was very comfortable calling all those who opposed the war after it started treasonous. He is more nuanced than many republicans, but he's consistant his disdain for us.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:36 PM
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11.  his written arguments re: Iraq / Iran / neo-cons are excellent

but he seems to pull his punches on air. i never even hoped he would endorse Kerry, though at least one editor of American Conservative did, but Buchanan then wrote an editorial endorsing Bush, ( he could have refrained from endorsing anyone at all ) which is when I cancelled my subscription.
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PeachyDem88 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:22 PM
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10. I agree...
Where the Right Went Wrong is excellent. Buchanan is one of the most intelligent conservatives in America. I read his column every week or so.

Pat Buchanan is insane, with regard to social issues...

"Batshit Crazy" is the DU term, I think...

But he is a true patriot, regardless... He really seems to have the best interests of our country in mind. This puts him at odds with the neo-cons, and the Republican party in general.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:58 PM
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5. He was against Iraq action, too. nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:13 PM
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9. I hate when i agree with Pat Buchanan!!!
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:45 PM
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13. I will say this about patrick Buchanan
As a politician I disagree with many/most of his positions --- unlike the current regime, I do believe he has the well being of the American working person at heart (again he and I often define well being in different terms), Chimpy and the neocons have the well being of corporate America at heart and I believe would enjoy an American serfdom serving the corporate Kings.

Now, as a political pundit I like Buchanan; though I rarely agree with him. I have never seen Buchanan calling for violence or misfortune to befall those on the other side. I do not see him attempting to vilify others for personal/political gain (think of what the RW did to Max Cleland ... ). He, in fact, seems uncomfortable with the vitriol spewed by the likes of Ann Coulter, O'lielly ...
Though he iS going to aggressively make his point.

So yeah, I think he's fairly crazy; for him I'll remove the "batshit" from batshitcrazyinsane.
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