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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:53 PM
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Desecration of the Dead
If anyone has any thoughts on anything to add to this, I'd be grateful for suggestions.

===

His name is Larry Northern, and he is a son of a bitch.

The Arlington West cemetery has been growing for more than a year. Begun in California by activists seeking to honor those soldiers killed in Iraq, and also seeking to highlight in an unavoidably searing way the price we are paying for the invasion of Iraq, the cemetery is made up of small grave markers made of simple wood. There are crosses, and crescents, and stars of David. Each one represents a dead American soldier.

When word got out that the mother of a fallen soldier had camped herself out in front of the Bush “ranch” in Crawford with a demand to see the president, the Arlington West cemetery was packed up and sent to Texas. This was no small job, as there are now nearly 2,000 grave markers - each bearing a name – that make up the cemetery.

I was in Crawford last week when Arlington West arrived, and I watched as the demonstrators prepared it. The land available to the protesters in Crawford is essentially little more than a series of long, narrow, muddy ditches by the sides of the road. The grave markers were set up along the entire length of the road leading to the site.

This was no mean, haphazard setup. I watched family members of fallen soldiers take tape measures to carefully map out plots of land, making sure each cross was given its own respectful distance from the others. The assembly of Arlington West in Crawford took more than a full day, and was done under the glare of the hot Texas sun. By the end, the cemetery stretched the better part of a mile down the road, each marker bearing a name.

Some markers were surrounded by flowers and American flags. The flowers were placed there by loving relatives of that soldier, relatives who came to Crawford to stand in solidarity with Cindy Sheehan and the other military families, relatives who want to know why their loved ones were spent by the man who would not come out to speak with them.

Some time around 10:00 p.m. on Monday night, Larry Northern of Waco, Texas, drove his pickup truck down to the Crawford protest site. He got out, went around back to the tailgate, and attached a pipe and a chain to the rear of the truck. He got back in and proceeded to drive his truck through the Arlington West cemetery, grinding and smashing through the grave markers. 500 of them were knocked down, and 100 of them were totally destroyed.

The harassment of the activists in Crawford has been growing by the day. Last Thursday, I watched a guy on a motorcycle, wrapped from head to boot in black leather and helmet, with a Rebel flag handkerchief tied around his neck, roar into camp and yell something at the people setting up the grave markers before fleeing down the road. That morning, a caravan of Secret Service SUVs blasted through camp at high speed, leaning on their horns the whole way. One local guy in a pickup truck roared down the road and sideswiped a parked car, narrowly missing a couple of people. And then, of course, there was Larry Mattlage, who got sauced on Keystone beer before firing his shotgun into the air a few times near the demonstration.

You figure this is to be expected. Cindy Sheehan and the military families who have joined her have touched a raw nerve among the slowly dwindling ranks of Bush supporters. They are angry, and more than a little scared of the fact that one grieving mother has managed to throw a couple of torpedoes into the side of their battleship.

But the Arlington West cemetery is something else entirely. Truthout reporter Scott Galindez was on the scene after the attack. “Respect for this country's dead is not a partisan issue,” he wrote afterwards. “Putting up memorials of our country's fallen is not a ‘liberal’ act. It is an American act. Even a group of counter-protestors from Dallas last week draped flags and flowers over many of the gravemarkers, and many were moved to tears at the sight of the long line of dead soldiers. It's too bad that someone else who disagrees with Cindy felt they needed to wipe out the memory of our fallen in such an obscene manner.”

“Obscene” is the proper word. Among the comments from Bush supporters that have appeared on a variety of forums and blogs, many have taken the line that Casey Sheehan would be appalled at what his mother is doing to his memory. Leave aside for a moment the audacity of those who think they’d know the mind of a man more than his own mother, and focus on this bit about desecrating his memory. A Bush supporter drove a truck through a line of grave markers with the names of dead American soldiers inscribed on them. It is difficult to imagine a more profound desecration.

Mr. Northern was arrested and charged with criminal mischief. Some have argued in the aftermath of the attack that he should be charged with a hate crime. However that shakes out, it was hate that motivated him. His hate was so strong that it motivated him to destroy crosses and stars and crescents bearing the names of soldiers he almost certainly has said he “stands for.”

A man who owns property near Bush’s “ranch,” and right across the street from his church, has offered the protesters an acre of his land for their campsite. This was welcome news, because the county commissioner was preparing to hold a vote on closing Prairie Chapel Road and evicting the demonstrators. “We can fit more people and we will be closer to the ranch,” reported Cindy Sheehan after this offer was made. “Miracles, miracles.”

They are out of the ditch now, and will shortly rebuild the Arlington West cemetery. They will do so with love and respect. The memorial will be safe from hatred and attack. The vigil goes on.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:57 PM
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1. It's also obscene that someone would actually
make Arlington West the target for their atheist rant. :eyes:

Good post Pitt. I can't believe how the MSM is downplaying this. Just imagine if liberals did any of these actions at a Pro-War Rally.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:57 PM
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2. To whom are you referring exactly?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:58 PM
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3. lol
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:58 PM
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4. It's a mystery
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:16 PM
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16. There was a post earlier
I don't know, maybe it was yours, I don't keep track of these things...

A suggestion was made to replace the white crosses with something else less religious.

That's all.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:17 PM
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18. That post was mine
But this guy is talking about an atheist rant. I'm not sure if he meant mine or not. But I'd like to know.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:21 PM
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25. Gee whiz
Sounds like somebody's pulling your pigtails, Modem.

I suggest you call him out on the playground and kick his ass at dodgeball.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:23 PM
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28. Lighten up
I thought I missed someone else's post on the same topic. Sheesh!
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:25 PM
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32. I was joking.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 02:32 PM by Dora
Didn't mean to poke you with a stick.
Next time I'll use a cute smilie.
me = :dunce:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:30 PM
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33. CNN MSNBC and the Today show have carried the story already
This one isn't going away. Wonder if the Chimp will say anything about it.

BTW Ripley, off topic, that photo is seriously cool, is it a real picture?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:42 PM
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49. No, but it would be way cooler if it was.
It's an artist's representation of a black hole. :scared:
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:58 PM
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5. I'm sure the rightwing spin machine is already labeling...
these guys "a few bad apples."
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:59 PM
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7. apples were grown on someone's tree
a tree that was grown in the right wing of the yard...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:59 PM
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6. Well done, Will
:thumbsup:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:00 PM
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8. Will, did you catch the thread with a soldier's wife's report on this?
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 02:00 PM by GreenPartyVoter
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:00 PM
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9. Well done, Will, well done.
:thumbsup:
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:05 PM
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10. I appreciate this post
I just feel like crying when I read this. These are our children, friends, family members and fellow citizens and they are dead now. Gone, not able to ever tell us they love us, or disagree with us or celebrate another event. They have been silenced and for this I grieve deeply. I hate this war and I hate the actions of those too selfish or ignorant or hateful to respect those who have paid the ultimate price...
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:06 PM
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11. Hit and run w/ property damage in the desecration of a public memorial. nt
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:07 PM
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12. i'LL chew on it
and be back (hopefuLLy in time before ya print).
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:13 PM
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13. What happened last night folks is... spitting on the troops
PURE and SIMPLE

We now have documented an event of soembody spitting on the troops... and now I am convined it happened in the 60s, somebody like Larry Northern
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:13 PM
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14. Wooodamn hooo! Will Pitt! :)
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:14 PM
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15. Great post. Some suggestions:
Got any salt? My opinion, fwiw:

- change "son of a bitch" to a less misogynistic epithet. I understand what you mean, but seeing the word "bitch" makes a lot of women cringe. Perhaps "asshat" might be a good fit: it's just as colorful as "asshole," but not as lurid.

- "You figure this is to be expected." As an opening sentence, this paragraph needs something more active: "This type of opposition is (to be) expected."

- Consider not mentioning Neighbor Larry's name in the piece. He hasn't been arrested or charged with any crime, from what I've read. He knows who he is, and so do we.

- "A Bush supporter drove a truck through a line of grave markers with the names of dead American soldiers inscribed on them. It is difficult to imagine a more profound desecration." (And this is profound, why? Tell me. I understand, but for the sake of those who don't get it, tell them. Great place for artful rhetoric here.)

Excellent piece. Still, I had to open my yap and offer my rusted opinon.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:16 PM
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17. Thanks
I was concerned about the sob line. Was waiting for someone to call me on it. :)

Changed sob to wretch.

Let me tweak out those other suggestions. Greatly appreciated.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:17 PM
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20. William if I may add... work on the theme
that this A-hole just spat on teh troops. He did not have to physically do it, as in actual spit, but he did...
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:20 PM
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24. I added that
Check the 'changes' posted below.

Thanks.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:19 PM
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23. Changes
I left SWhotgun Larry in. He and his Keystone got on CNN yesterday, so he's fair game.

===

His name is Larry Northern, and he is a wretch.

The Arlington West cemetery has been growing for more than a year. Begun in California by activists seeking to honor those soldiers killed in Iraq, and also seeking to highlight in an unavoidably searing way the price we are paying for the invasion of Iraq, the cemetery is made up of small grave markers made of simple wood. There are crosses, and crescents, and stars of David. Each one represents a dead American soldier.

When word got out that the mother of a fallen soldier had camped herself out in front of the Bush "ranch" in Crawford with a demand to see the president, the Arlington West cemetery was packed up and sent to Texas. This was no small job, as there are now nearly 2,000 grave markers - each bearing a name - that make up the cemetery.



I was in Crawford last week when Arlington West arrived, and I watched as the demonstrators prepared it. The land available to the protesters in Crawford is essentially little more than a series of long, narrow, muddy ditches by the sides of the road. The grave markers were set up along the entire length of the road leading to the site.

This was no mean, haphazard setup. I watched family members of fallen soldiers take tape measures to carefully map out plots of land, making sure each cross was given its own respectful distance from the others. The assembly of Arlington West in Crawford took more than a full day, and was done under the glare of the hot Texas sun. By the end, the cemetery stretched the better part of a mile down the road, each marker bearing a name.



Some markers were surrounded by flowers and American flags. The flowers were placed there by loving relatives of that soldier, relatives who came to Crawford to stand in solidarity with Cindy Sheehan and the other military families, relatives who want to know why their loved ones were spent by the man who would not come out to speak with them.

Some time around 10:00 p.m. on Monday night, Larry Northern of Waco, Texas, drove his pickup truck down to the Crawford protest site. He got out, went around back to the tailgate, and attached a pipe and a chain to the rear of the truck. He got back in and proceeded to drive his truck through the Arlington West cemetery, grinding and smashing through the grave markers. 500 of them were knocked down, and 100 of them were totally destroyed.



The harassment of the activists in Crawford has been growing by the day. Last Thursday, I watched a guy on a motorcycle, wrapped from head to boot in black leather and helmet, with a Rebel flag handkerchief tied around his neck, roar into camp and yell something at the people setting up the grave markers before fleeing down the road. That morning, a caravan of Secret Service SUVs blasted through camp at high speed, leaning on their horns the whole way. One local guy in a pickup truck roared down the road and sideswiped a parked car, narrowly missing a couple of people. And then, of course, there was Larry Mattlage, who got sauced on Keystone beer before firing his shotgun into the air a few times near the demonstration.

One could say this is to be expected. Cindy Sheehan and the military families who have joined her have touched a raw nerve among the slowly dwindling ranks of Bush supporters. They are angry, and more than a little scared of the fact that one grieving mother has managed to throw a couple of torpedoes into the side of their battleship.

But the Arlington West cemetery is something else entirely. Truthout reporter Scott Galindez was on the scene after the attack. "Respect for this country's dead is not a partisan issue," he wrote afterwards. "Putting up memorials of our country's fallen is not a 'liberal' act. It is an American act. Even a group of counter-protestors from Dallas last week draped flags and flowers over many of the gravemarkers, and many were moved to tears at the sight of the long line of dead soldiers. It's too bad that someone else who disagrees with Cindy felt they needed to wipe out the memory of our fallen in such an obscene manner."



"Obscene" is the proper word. Among the comments from Bush supporters that have appeared on a variety of forums and blogs, many have taken the line that Casey Sheehan would be appalled at what his mother is doing to his memory. Leave aside for a moment the audacity of those who think they'd know the mind of a man more than his own mother, and focus on this bit about desecrating his memory. A Bush supporter drove a truck through a line of grave markers with the names of dead American soldiers inscribed on them. It is difficult to imagine a more profound desecration. Once upon a time, soldiers returning from Vietnam were spit on. Larry Northern spit on our soldiers when he did this thing. Period.



Mr. Northern was arrested and charged with criminal mischief. Some have argued in the aftermath of the attack that he should be charged with a hate crime. However that shakes out, it was hate that motivated him. His hate was so strong that it motivated him to destroy crosses and stars and crescents bearing the names of soldiers he almost certainly has said he "stands for."

A man who owns property near Bush's "ranch," and right across the street from his church, has offered the protesters an acre of his land for their campsite. This was welcome news, because the county commissioner was preparing to hold a vote on closing Prairie Chapel Road and evicting the demonstrators. "We can fit more people and we will be closer to the ranch," reported Cindy Sheehan after this offer was made. "Miracles, miracles."



They are out of the ditch now, and will shortly rebuild the Arlington West cemetery. They will do so with love and respect. The memorial will be safe from hatred and attack. The vigil goes on.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:31 PM
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34. I like it.
:thumbsup:

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:31 PM
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35. ok I am going to get picky
the spitting on vets coming from Nam has never been proven (thogh I suspect if it happened it was people like Larry Northern that basically spread the lie that it was us, flaming libs

This is just a small note and thanks, I feel our troops were spat upon today
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:35 PM
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37. Yeah
but it has become apocryphal enough to be part of the public consciousness. The comparison needs to be made.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:03 PM
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41. ok will get off my rant them
;-)

I have just posted the photos on my blog and sent them to the four winds, the photos speak volumes
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:39 PM
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39. Well done, Will. Just one suggestion ...
... adding a comment about the fact that the President has still not issued a statement condemning the desecration.


Peace.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:01 PM
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40. I strongly support UL: Why hasn't * issued a
statement condemning desecration of the memorial?

I believe that many real conservatives will be disgusted by these images of fallen crosses. Remember the outcry when the Allied cemetery/memorial in France was defaced?

:kick:
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:01 PM
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54. odd, i remember
an awful lot of people calling for the crosses and graves of those who died in France to be returned home- and the 'freedom fries' garbage.-

But then, that was 'old europe'-
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:08 PM
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56. Bush needs to take a strong stand against
this behavior by any of his supporters. Otherwise his silence is condoning violence and that is an abuse of power.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:00 PM
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57. He won't
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:06 PM
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58. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call him on it
If he won't, then WE need to make him resign.

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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:55 PM
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52. Well, Mr.Will.....
once again you blow me away with your ability to capture thoughts in words.-

As i read your first draft, i wasn't offended at the SOB refrence (i've rarely met a female dog who didn't become a friend, while i've known many female humans who i'd only 'like' from a great distance), but it is probably more palatable with out it.

I don't know how to put this thought into the succinct words you are able to, but one thing really jumps out at me.- please, bear with my attempt to vocalize it... and mull it's relevancy over.

Casey, and every other person who has died as a result of this 'war' on 'terror' were men and women who were willing to 'give their lives' for the FREEDOM of any and ALL americans to do exactly what Cindy, and all you beloved sisters and brothers are doing.- The saddest reality is that what they were told to 'give everything for' was NOT 'freedom' as the actions of this sad Mr.Northern, the SS, the 'president' and the 'dove hunter' have demonstrated. Being 'free' is being able to freely assemble, WITHOUT intimidation, fear of retrebution or violence. The statement of 'Arlington West' is all the more poigniant because it is speaking the saddest of all truths.

That these men and women, trusted 'America' with their lives- and we allowed them to be needlessly destroyed. That 'Americans' want all the pleasures of life, but don't want to have to really LOOK at any of the costs of those pleasures, most especially the cost of being an active citizen, having to be AWARE and ATTENTIVE to the actions of the 'government'- not just pulling a lever, punching a card, or making an x on a ballot, and thinking we've 'done our duty'-.

Destroying the crosses, won't destroy the grief and the loss of more than 1800 friends, sons, sisters, husbands and fathers. This grief is something EVERY american should AT LEAST be 'aware' of, if not share in. Never, in my 40+ years of life have i seen such a lack of empathy, outrage, dismay or even simple 'notice' at the loss of so many bright, and shining brothers and sisters for a reason that has NO credible foundation.

America needed to 'witness' the pain of sept 11th in order to feel the outrage, sorrow, magnitude, horror and loss. A loss brought upon America by 'outside' forces.- Perhaps therein lies the difference. WE, have done this to our own. Just as Mr.Northern did this to them again.- and we ask the same question? Where is the outrage? Where is the SHAME? Do we really care so little? Or is the enormity of what we have done, just too much to face.


i love your ability to put thoughts into such readable, moving and flowing articles- Your post is perfect just as it is, i just wanted to share the strange connection i see between not facing reality- and destroying the evidence of our failure to protect those who were willing to die to protect us.


i admire you, and so many other posters here- and i'm grateful for this island of sanity in this f-d up world.

blu
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:01 PM
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55. Even more powerful with the pictures...
nicely done, Mr. Pitt.

:toast:

Sid
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:40 PM
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60. Great post. 2 suggestions.
1) Is there a picture anywhere that has other religious symbols besides crosses? I keep seeing posts that others are represented, but it wouldn't hurt if something other than a cross showed up in a picture. That may seem like a nit, I just think it would be good to show it rather than say it.

2) "It is difficult to imagine a more profound desecration." Well, the opposition will come up with all sorts of things and call you names for thinking that this is worse than whatever they came up with - potentially derailing the discussion to an argument over what is "a more profound desecration." (Durbin, Gitmo, Nazis anyone?)

Great job as always!
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:17 PM
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19. The residents of Crawford and surrounding areas
should resign themselves to more of the same in the future. With three and one half years left in his presidency, George Bush is likely to bring many more protesters who object to his unbelievably insane domestic and foreign policies. The anti-Iraq War movement shows all indications of blossoming into something not seen in America since the 1960's protests of the Vietnam War. Since Mr. Bush spends at least twenty percent of his time vacationing at the ranch, and the other eighty percent divided between other vacation areas and Washington, Crawford is likely to be a hot spot for years to come.

Additionally, the protesters have a right, under the U.S. Constitution to freely assemble. If the residents of Crawford are allowed to expand the area around Bush's ranch in which protesters are not permitted, one could only imagine that Mr. Bush himself is behind it. The no parking zones around the Presidents home in Crawford were established by the Secret Service to insure the President's safety. What other reason could there be to expand those zones other than to prevent Mr. Bush from being bothered by protesters? Let us not forget that he needs to "get on with his life". If only we, as regular citizens of this country, could have such a cushion around us that prevents anything uncomfortable from entering our world. If only.......
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:18 PM
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21. Don't change a word.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:19 PM
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22. Nicely done, Will.
:thumbsup:
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:22 PM
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26. Did the other Larry really get sauced on Keystone?
I must've missed that. If he did, then great. Otherwise, it seems a bit odd to mention a specific guy getting drunk on a specific brand of beer. :shrug:

:toast: Excellent as usual.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:24 PM
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30. Yeah
The camera work from CNN was great. The had him blathering about doves and port-o-potties, and the camera zoomed in on the open case of Keystone in the back of his truck. Classic.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:22 PM
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27. Thanks
I wasn't really familiar with the history of Arlington West and now it even becomes more obscene.
Between the purple heart band aides, attacks on John Kerry's and Max Cleland's service records, beating on women at their convention last year and now purposely mowing down hundreds of symbols of soldiers that are not coming home, they are showing the true hatred that seeps through their blood.
These people don't care about the troops and what is happening to them. They care about "winning" and that's all. Win at all costs because the men have penis envy and the women have been beaten into submission. They are a truly sad and despicable group of people. They must really hate themselves to be as hateful as they are to others.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:24 PM
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29. Very good...
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 02:28 PM by Crankie Avalon
...you evoke the memorial and its meaning very powerfully.

I'm wondering if you would consider deleting or editing your very first line, though, "His name is Larry Northern, and he is a son of a bitch."

In my opinion, you don't need to start with calling someone a name to tell us how we should think and feel about him. Your description of his actions, particularly after writing so movingly about what Arlington West was/is, shows us, rather than tells us, and let's the reader reach that conclusion on his/her own.

I know it's good/necessary to start with an attention grabbing opening, but this seemed a little too jarring for the wrong reason. You only mention him briefly in your opeining to call him a name and then don't talk about him again until halfway through the essay. If you want to open by getting us thinking about Larry Northern, maybe make a paragraph giving his background in a more objective way, rather than just a sentence that calls him a name.

Just my opinion, since you asked in your OP. Otherwise, as I said, the moving description of Arlington West in the first part makes the desecration recounted later on even more unjust and appalling.

EDIT: I see you've changed your opening line a little since, but I think my opinion remains the same. Let me add, thanks for writing, and for even asking for our input on it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:25 PM
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31. Already done
Thanks.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:34 PM
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36. Excellent post Will.
Thanks for the very thoughtful summary of the heinous actions of last night.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:39 PM
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38. Great piece, Will
As always :patriot:

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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:05 PM
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42. One thing to double check...
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 03:22 PM by VelmaD
is it county commissioner or county commissioners (plural). I think most Texas counties have plural but I could be wrong.

Otherwise, I like it...even the change to the opener that I liked so much the first time I read it. I've calmed down a little bit since then.

A suggestion...how about misbegotten wretch? Wretch is a great old-fashioned word and I always thought misbegotten went quite well with it.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:24 PM
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43. Freepers snicker & jeer.......
The "Arlington West" memorial is no more or less the same as the "Moving Wall" honoring veterans of another unpopular war. Would they cheer its destruction too? It doesn't matter what political party a family belongs to they that lost a loved one would hope he/she is remembered. They seem to think they have the monopoly on freedom and patriotism. I know the price of war and so does Cindy Sheehan, its a deep scar on ones soul. They mock her and anyone that does not reflect their viewpoint. They are scared of the image these small markers portray. They are afraid of the names & the images in mass, it sends a powerful message to folks out there. They say she denigrates her son Casey's memory. How so? Is it because she wishes to spare others the same grief. Is it to prevent more needless death & destruction. Freepers can't tell you exactly why were fighting this war. They spout political talking points, and use words like freedom & democracy. When people here exercise their right to dissent, they call it treason & unpatriotic. How soon they forget. Well, we haven't, we won't and thats what scares the be-Jesus out of them.

A great man once said in his dedication of a cemetery that........

It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us. . .that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion. . . that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain. . . that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom. . . and that government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth. Nov.19,1863.

http://www.themovingwall.org/
http://bravolima.tripod.com/legion/wall.html
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:28 PM
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44. good article, you are one prolific writer
Most writers have 1 or 2 pieces a week and you seem to get 4-5 good ones each week.

Thanks!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:31 PM
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45. Instant Karma - he was caught because a broken cross flattened his tire...
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:38 PM
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46. Awesome post, as usual, WmPitt...
Could you change son of a bitch to asshole though? We have no idea if his mom was involved in any of this... :)
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:39 PM
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47. they summed up it very accurately themselves
when they chanted "we don't care"
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:40 PM
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48. "... I watched as the demonstrators prepared it."
It struck me that demonstrators wasn't the right word here. I'm struggling to find the right one, but this activity isn't a demonstration, it's a memorial.

Maybe "... I watched as it was carefully prepared". ??


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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:42 PM
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50. LINK TO FINAL w/ changes and pics
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 03:45 PM
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51. Lay the guilt trip on 'em Will.
He deserves it and more! I wish some Catholic nuns would come chastise him.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:00 PM
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53. Nothing to add here
You've said it better than I ever could.


Keith’s Barbeque Central
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:56 PM
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59. You are on a roll, William.
Keep it up! Keep it up!
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