I know this is a stretch, but does Cindy Sheehan remind anyone else of

[Poiuyt]

Gandhi? Just because to me, she has become the "face" of the anti-war movement. She seems like such a gentle soul...to me she represents peace and non-violence, and a little person standing up against the big government. I know that the scale is different, but it seems that they fought similar fights.

[tyedyeto]

1. She is always calm when she speaks

an attribute that Ghandi had.

Is that why * and Co. are afraid of her?

[PatrioticLeftie]

2. Not entirely

But in some ways, she does

[dweller]

3. she is being the change

she wants to see in the world, so i think so.

dp

edit: to include quotes.

- What is true of the individual will be tomorrow true of the whole nation if individuals will but refuse to lose heart and hope.

- For me every ruler is alien that defies public opinion.

- The spirit of democracy is not a mechanical thing to be adjusted by abolition of forms. It requires change of heart.

- If co-operation is a duty, I hold that non-co-operation also under certain conditions is equally a duty.

- When restraint and courtesy are added to strength, the latter becomes irresistible.

- Power is of two kinds. One is obtained by the fear of punishment and the other by acts of love. Power based on
love is a thousand times more effective and permanent than the one derived from fear of punishment.

- Man can never be a woman's equal in the spirit of selfless service with which nature has endowed her.

- An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody
will see it.

- Abstract truth has no value unless it incarnates in human beings who represent it, by proving their readiness to die for it.

- Courage has never been known to be a matter of muscle; it is a matter of the heart. The toughest muscle has been
known to tremble before an imaginary fear. It was the heart that set the muscle trembling.

[TahitiNut]

4. I'd get a big kick out of seeing the Dalai Lama visit her.

:shrug:

[CubsFan1982]

5. I think Gandhi would be rolling over in the Ganges if he heard that.

Totally different circumstances.

[shraby]

6. This is even a bigger stretch, but it occurred to me

when reading a previous post. They said they hadn't hoped to be able to have time with Cindy, but when they got there, she was looking at them and came over and gave them a big hug. I had a flash of something.
I'm not a religious person at all, but it seems there are some parallels here that people are missing.
She got to Crawford with practically nothing, but somehow has managed to feed the multitudes.
She is soft-spoken but people listen.
Her words are "why did my son die"?
She needed more space and in the middle of hostile territory, someone gives her more than she ever dreamed.
People are flocking to her from all over the country.

God said about the second coming "you will know him by his deeds".

Nuff said.

[EC]

16. Well, then this should be a good fight...

since the right think the same of **.

[JDPriestly]

25. Cindy is in a state of grace.

I don't know about the Second Coming. But, I'm quite sure that Cindy is in a state of grace. By that I meant that her ego is, at this time, very weak.

I have the impression that Cindy's ego has nearly disappeared since the death of her son. That is why she seems so calm and unruffled and at ease even in front of the TV cameras. She no longer cares so much about her physical self or what other people think of her. She is pretty close to completely centered, completely one with her soul, with that part of God that is within her. Her soul is more in charge of her life that it would be if her ego were very strong.

Cindy's decision to go to Crawford and camp out without equipment or supplies came from her nearly egoless state. Her mission, which is to get the truth out there about the lack of noble cause for the War in Iraq is more important to her than her personal health or wellbeing.

Cindy probably feels mostly compassion and love for others at this time. That is where her ability to draw other people and the things she really needs is coming from. That's why she is experiencing miracles. This is a time for Cindy and all of us to be both vigilant about the possibility that Cindy's ego may return with vengeance making life very difficult for her, while also feeling very thankful for Cindy's state of grace which is a blessing to the whole world.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

7. No.

Not really.

[Catholic Sensation]

8. not even if i was drunk

[name not needed]

9. No.

Although David Hasselhoff reminds me of Ghandi.

[Catholic Sensation]

11. the struggles he put up with

Baywatch, having to release music only in Germany... He's an inspiration to every man, woman, child, and pimpbot



Pimpbot says "Donate, or I cut you fool!"

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

13. All worship "der Mann", DAVID HASSELHOFF

dontcha wish your girlfriend was hot like david?

[Catholic Sensation]

14. don't you wish your girlfriend was a freak like david hasselhoff

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

19. dontcha wish your girlfriend was RAW like david hasselhoff?

[Catholic Sensation]

22. dont cha wish your girlfriend was fun like David Hasselhoff

don't cha don't cha

[name not needed]

24. Does this please you?

[name not needed]

15. Ja!

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

20. ohhh babay!

:9

[Poiuyt]

18. David did have to put up with a lot

Not as much as people watching him though

[montana_hazeleyes]

27. Oh My! Lol

Pimpbot is TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Much. LOL

[SheepyMcSheepster]

23. when one speaks of the Hoff, one must visualize the Hoff

[Sparkle]

10. I love her voice.

She has a young voice.

[anarchy1999]

12. She strikes me as a younger Granny D. By the way where is GrannyD?

Would it not be wonderful to get her to Crawford to spend a day with Cindy? I know I'd sure love it!

Calling out GrannyD. We need you in Texas, please come back.

[elperromagico]

17. The scale is extraordinarily different.

So different, in fact, that I would say a comparison is impossible.

Gandhi spent the majority of his life, from his time in South Africa fighting against racial discrimination to his time fighting for a free India, in a constant struggle against injustice. He dedicated some 50 years of his life to that cause.

During that time he was beaten, imprisoned, mocked, and derided. He starved himself on several occasions, almost to the point of death, in an effort to stop violence.

And for all this, he was assassinated by a man who disagreed with his attempts at conciliation with the Muslims.

The comparison is simply too much of a stretch for my humble mind.

[evilqueen]

21. Not really...

I never heard or read about Gandhi saying "shit" during a speech, although I like that Cindy does... shows that she's just a normal person, like the rest of us.

[Hekate]

26. Actually, in the beginning she reminded me of Demeter

Cindy is definitely walking in the footsteps of great ones...the ones who modeled non-violence and peaceful means for humanity. She does not have to BE Ghandi (or Christ, or M.L. King Jr) to be walking where he/they trod.

She's doing a good job being Cindy, and we need her just now.

However, moving to the feminine side, there is a grieving mother-figure that Cindy initially reminded me of: Demeter of ancient Greek mythology.

Demeter's child Kore/Persephone was taken from her by Death (Aidoneus/Hades) with the permission of Zeus (P's father/ruler of the gods). Demeter searched everywhere for her child until she was told what happened; she grieved and raged. After many events (like all true myths it is many layered and complex) she entered the stage called the Wrath of Demeter, during which she sat down in her temple and refused to budge until Zeus agreed to hear her out. Now, being a goddess, Demeter had powers of her own, and she caused all the crops to fail -- as she told Zeus's messenger, if this kept up there would soon be no one left to make sacrifices to the gods.

Cindy Sheehan has tapped into a certain powerful Demetrian energy. Were she truly modeling herself on the closest representative of a goddess-figure of her own religion, the Virgin Mary of Roman Catholicism, she would most likely have struggled to say to God "Thy will be done," no matter how evident the lies of Bush were. She could still oppose Bush, but the inner struggle would be different.

I see Demeter here. Cindy Sheehan has gone down to Crawford to sit at the gates of the ruler's summer palace until he agrees to hear her out.

And if this keeps up, there will be no more soldiers to make sacrifices to this ruler, who, if not a god, thinks God talks through him.

Gods, kings, and ordinary men: beware the wrath of a bereaved mother.

Hekate

[dweller]

28. this deserves its own thread

please repost!

very interesting.
dp

[Hekate]

30. Thank you, dweller

I'll see if it flies in GD.

Hekate

[Hekate]

31. selfdelete--sorry, sometimes my finger stutters

and I post the same thing twice

[A-Schwarzenegger]

29. Rosa Parks wasn't Gandhi either.

That's the point. In fact, Gandhi
wasn't Gandhi.

[BeTheChange]

32. No..

She does not remind me of Ghandi.