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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:14 AM
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playing around with irony, courtesy of Charlie Daniels . . .
fiddler Charlie Daniels is a big supporter of BushCo and their little war in Iraq . . . he might want to go back and read what he wrote about US activities in Kosovo under Bill Clinton . . .

Vietnam

http://www.charliedaniels.com/soapbox/past/61.html

I have a very bad feeling about our incursion into the Kosovo situation. It reminds me so much of the Vietnam experience. The parallels are remarkable. It is a Civil War. It is being fought among a civilian population. We are starting out in a manner which could keep us involved for years to come. The politicians have neither the will nor the stomach to win. We have no clear cut definition of victory. And the list of analogies goes on and on. The Vietnam war was not lost by our military forces, it was lost by the politicians. That war should have been over with before the tide of opinion in this country turned so vehemently against it. What soured this country out on the Vietnam war was the duration. Here was a third world country who played by nobody’s rules and our politicians sent our troops into battle with ridiculous orders about when and who they could shoot. When it became obvious that we had no intention of winning the patience of this country ran out and so did support for the war. I can imagine the same thing happening in Kosovo. I pray that it will not. But if we stay there long enough you can bet your bottom dollar that something will happen to escalate our involvement. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m just as much against the atrocities that the Serbs are committing as anybody is. I think that Milosevic should be castrated with a broken beer bottle, but If we’re going to stop it, let’s stop it. Let’s go in with both barrels blazing, shoot anything in sight wearing a Serb uniform, get the job done and bring the troops home. In the first place Bill Clinton has quietly cut our military forces to the point that I’m not sure we could mount the kind of all out offensive we’d need to accomplish that goal. And God forbid that anything else requiring troops should happen in the world. The same president who refused to serve in the uniform of his country doesn’t seem to have any qualms about sending other folks’ sons and daughters into battle. I don’t know what the answer is but neither does Bill Clinton and he has gotten us into something that is not going to be easy to get out of. Enslaving the Serbs. The feelings go much deeper that we can realize and any pitiful effort we make is little more than a symbolic in gesture. But this administration is big on symbolism and short on substance. So where do we go from here Bill? Do we keep dropping bombs? Do we send in ground troops or do we just tuck our collective tails between our legs and admit to another dismal failure by the United Nations? How are your spin doctors going to handle this one? If American troops are killed, will James Carville go on television and blame it on Kenneth Star? We’re waiting Bill....

What do you think?

God Bless America
Charlie Daniels
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:18 AM
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1. I was not a fan of the Kosovo war either
but it was fought the right way, and we did have an exit strategy that got us the hell out of there. Nor was there an occupation that built up the resentment of the locals. The genocide was stopped, but deposing the dictator was a job for the people to do themselves, and they did.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:40 AM
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3. I agree about kossov .....
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 02:41 AM by DanCa
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:27 AM
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2. wow, if that wasn't ignorant nt
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:43 AM
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4. Many Republicans have conveniently short memories
...when it comes to their lack of consistency where Kosovo and Iraq are concerned. Not so long ago they were the ones yelling "end the war" and "bring the troops home now". They also utterly failed to support a wartime president. By their own definition they were traitors before they started pointing their nasty fingers at us.

Here's the truth of it: if God were a Democrat and Satan were a Republican, the Right would enthusiastically support Satan.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 02:50 AM
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5. Stupid fucks like Charlie Daniels think they have all the answers. Try
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 02:51 AM by oasis
to do a little reading, Charlie, a whole new world will open up to you.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 03:25 AM
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6. It's not irony, it's hypocrisy.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 04:29 AM
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7. I think it was more an air war so no boots on the ground ------
So to speak and I think a lot of countries helped once they were on the ground. I think it is hard to go to war from out side a country and fight that people who live in the country. They are home already and we at home do not see the point of it as much. If you recall it took a long time to get us into WW1 and 2.
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