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Wed Aug-17-05 06:40 PM
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It's so obvious! It just hit me like a lightening bolt... |
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The MSM is serving moron* by focusing more attention on Cindy!
It sounds weird, but I could kick myself for not seeing this earlier...
Folks, moron* is pulling an osama on us. Just like the fact that if he catches osama, then in the public eye on the war is over.
So what does he do here? Not talk to Cindy. As long as he stays away, this keeps the MSM, us and the rest of the populations eye off the ball. What ball? DSM, Bolton, Roberts, rove, shall I go on?
They see what this is building up into. maybe a few days ago, they actually thought about talking to Cindy, but when they drove past and saw all the attention she was getting, rove probably said, "let it ride".
And here we are, when was the last time you heard or seen any of the above things I have mentioned on the front page of anything?????
They have used one of us against us.
God I loath them.
Anyway, I'll the folks in Austin a the pedestrian bridge tonight. peace
colossal failure*
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:43 PM
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1. I would go even further to say Roberts is his back up if the MSM fails |
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to concentrate on Cindy then there is Roberts, not that I think he will be a great liberal justice, but the bigger news * wants ignored is Plame and the DSM.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:48 PM
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9. I think Cindy is reinforcing the message of the DSM. Plame? |
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Don't worry, that will be back in the news soon enough.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:43 PM
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2. there is now way what Cindy is doing is making people ask... |
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What are we doing in Iraq and how will we benefit?
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:44 PM
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3. Dude, bait and switch is their M.O.!!! |
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:46 PM
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4. True any news can serve as a diversion. However Cindy is a story |
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that is alot easier to understand than others. And those it appeals to, I think contain a different segment that may otherwise be lost to us.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:47 PM
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5. Yeah, I've thought this too. Cindy completely took everyone's |
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eyes off Rove and all the other things, but I'm still hoping Fitgerald's indictments knocks Cindy off every news media there is. No offense to Cindy by any means, but that's my hope.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:47 PM
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6. i dont agree. cindy is hurting bush, and the others will come back |
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they dont want this to be happening. it is truly hurting him. cindy is saying what the strong majority feel. that moment is going and more people that are just thinking it is possible or not quite there yet will come onto the side that iraq = bad. this is not good for cindy. and end of aug, this story will be over and the others will come back and bite him on the ass, with bushco being even weaker.
this is a good thing.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:50 PM
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11. I thought about that too, but... |
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He doesn't care, he's a lame duck. can't be reelected. And frankly, given everything that we have seen and heard about the moron* he doens't care about his party either. It's all about the haves and have mores. He transends party devotion. It's all about what he can keep at the end of the game.
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Wed Aug-17-05 07:03 PM
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15. buttt..... weaken the man, anger the people, disgust them, it |
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will be a lot easier for them to buy into the dsm and plame case, the corruption and election theft
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Thu Aug-18-05 01:11 AM
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Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 01:19 AM by FreedomAngel82
Remember that video of him: "Some call you the have's and the have more's. I call you my base." Bush claims to be religious and care about the issues the republican party of today cares about but in reality he doesn't. He didn't choose Roberts because of his wife's stances on issues and his. He choose Roberts because he is a Bush loyalist. Remember he was a lawyer for Reagan and Poppy Bush during the Iran/Contra scandal. Bush does a few things here and there to act like he supports the "religious right" but he doesn't give a damn and neither do the politicians. They run on these issues to get votes. They'll never get rid of Roe V Wade or do anything with gay marriage because if they do what else would they have to run on? How else can they make liberals and democrats look bad and not get votes?
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Thu Aug-18-05 01:10 AM
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Look at Bush's poll numbers. The public is on Cindy's side! This makes Bush look like even more the fool he is. He acts all big and macho infront of 'terrorist' but yet he's afraid of a mother who lost her son in Iraq? The media are all whore's plain and simple. They love to exploit anyone whether it's a missing girl or a grieving mother. Mrs. Sheehan didn't ask for the media or anything. She just went there and they showed up after other people showed up.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:48 PM
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7. They would be if they changed her message... |
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But they have failed... They keep trying to change the story but she doesn't bite.
They are serving Bush but they are failing.
As for the list you gave the republicans can't make more an issue out of these things if she is holding the attention. If we start talking now people won't pay attention when the time comes to do anything about them. They are on hold until everyone gets back to work anyway. What she is doing is very good for democrats if they pay attention. She is showing them if you don't let them change the subject they can't change the subject.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:48 PM
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8. I've been spending lots of time thinking about this myself. |
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Wondering why they were letting us get away with this in Crawford. They never have before.
Hmmmm.....
Why?
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Wed Aug-17-05 09:28 PM
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19. Go back to my first observation. |
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:49 PM
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10. Cindy IS the DSM. As long as she is in the spotlight she is |
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talking about the war being based on lies.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:52 PM
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12. Six of one; half dozen of the other |
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There will come a point when this will have become too much of a distraction; however I still think it is in it's best effective period. You will be right at a point; but not yet. If this goes down the way we hope it will logically follow that the other issues will be ressurected. Don't prematurely stress it just yet.
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Wed Aug-17-05 06:57 PM
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13. I really think you have this wrong |
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this is a slow news time - Cindy's timing couldn't have been better. With Congress out all the issues you mention wouldn't have been getting much attention anyway - this is not good for * and company and they would like her to go away. The reason he won't talk to her is because he can't answer her question - there was no noble cause and the freak in chief knows it.
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Wed Aug-17-05 07:03 PM
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14. I like the coverage of the anti-war movement |
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It's a couple years late, but it is (finally) acceptable for a person to be anti-Iraq War without apologies, and the media is covering it.
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Wed Aug-17-05 07:03 PM
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16. You think they are clever as ever. I don't. I think it's slipping |
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from their grasp. People power!
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Wed Aug-17-05 07:11 PM
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17. I would think that too if I smoked pot & got really paranoid |
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But this sort of speculation, though interesting, doesn't follow since this protesting could unseat him faster than anything else. And just because we aren't talking about Plame, doesn't mean the prosecutor isn't working hard on the case, if anything it may help not having such a circus around it - it didn't for the first two years, remember? People are busy doing their research on Roberts too - don't think they're not. DSM has no teeth without Cindy so she helps there. No, the shit is just going to keep hitting the fan for this administration for at least the next 3-4 months - mark my words.
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Thu Aug-18-05 01:49 AM
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24. hey, i smoke pot and am really paranoid |
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but the thing is, sure thic COULD bring him down, but not as far, or as quickly as the REAL scandals. it's a calculated risk, go with the least damaging option. it's doing real good at distracting us.
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Wed Aug-17-05 07:26 PM
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Wed Aug-17-05 09:30 PM
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20. I never discount that my tinfoil hat is a wee bit tight :) |
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it just appeared to me that once again, the are awfully silent. If this really was a sharp stick in the ribs for them, do you think they would be squawking more? This is what led me to believe what I wrote earlier.
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Thu Aug-18-05 01:06 AM
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21. you're right . . . attention IS being diverted from issues . . . BUT . . . |
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Cindy is also forcing people to THINK! . . . many for the first time in their adult lives . . . and that is exactly what is needed to defeat BushCo . . .
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Thu Aug-18-05 02:19 AM
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25. I have to disagree with that assessment ... |
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The phenomenon that is Cindy Sheehan has grabbed the public's attention like nothing else in this war. She's the grieving mother, the human face, the easy-to-understand story, the one everyone (except wingnuts) can empathize with.
She really is turning the tables against * and the war. The DSM, Plame, F911, Abu Ghraib, etc. have had some, but not tide-turning, impact on the public. Sheeehan's story resonates and has mushroomed beyond the control of Rove.
I think the * cabal's inaction on Ms. Sheehan is due to the fact that they really can't go anywhere. Bush doesn't have the emotional wherewithal, let alone the answers, to meet with her. They can't arrest the protesters at this point. They are just trying to ignore her.
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