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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:45 AM
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Anderson Cooper's show last night was complete bullshit
If that was "reporting", I'm a virgin.

I don't know where to start.

He explained that there were very few anti-Cindy protestors there, yet he gave them more air time. Add to that the fact that one of the "anti-Cindy" protestors was an asshole radio personality.

I meant to send him an email last night.

I have to remember to do so today.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:52 AM
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1. ????????????? From K Bay......who da guy??? wha happen???
:hi:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:55 AM
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7. Anderson Cooper of CNN did his complete show from
Camp Casey last night.

That show was a complete hatchett job on Cindy.

He claims to be "fair and balanced", but most of the show (at LEAST 75%) was anti-Cindy.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:01 PM
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32. Thanks Cat, sounds like another OReally....damn
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:52 AM
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2. Oh. My. DOG! -------You're NOT a Virgin?! n/t
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:18 AM
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29. Drat
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:52 AM
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3. Isn't Cooper a ratwing bu$h lover?
That's probably the only reason he was there....to give his fellow pukes air time to spew their venom.
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:53 AM
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5. Cooper: Log Cabin Republican. nt.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:36 AM
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19. really? eom
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:14 PM
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36. Yes...very well known. Check with
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:53 AM
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4. Who was the radio personality?
I choked on my tortilla chip when Cooper glowed that Bush hasn't raised taxes to support the war--as if we are paying for it as we go along! Do Americans not realize that that bill is due, that we are spending $1 billion per day for Iraq alone, and that if China decides not to finance our $7 trillion debt, the US is up Shit Creek?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:30 AM
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30. It was Darrell Ankarlo
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/17/acd.01.html

COOPER: There are a number of people here who, like Cindy Sheehan, have direct ties with the war. They don't agree with her. My next two guests fall into that category. Darrell Ankarlo is a radio talk show host in Texas. His son Adam was serving in Iraq, served in Fallujah. He's going back there soon. Also joining me is Gary Qualls, whose son, Louis, died in Fallujah last November at the age of 20. Gary, again, I'm so sorry for your loss.

GARY QUALLS: Thank you, sir.

COOPER: When you see this protest here, what do you think?

QUALLS: I think it's basically centered on a self-centered idea. And the functions that's going for behind that for supporting our troops is completely wrong.

COOPER: Do you think it's disrespecting the troops?

QUALLS: Yes, sir, morally. And underminingly (ph), yes, it can and will affect their morale.

COOPER: Because they say -- a lot of the protesters here and Cindy Sheehan will tell you, look, I want everyone to come home, and I'm working for the troops. You don't believe that?

QUALLS: No, sir, because after 9/11, and we've been hit by terrorists, like the same groups ever since the '70s, we've lost 200 here, a few hundred there, 17 here. And now all of a sudden they hit us in New York and we lost 3,000. And we can't afford to ever do that again.

COOPER: Darrell, the mood -- what a lot of people here tell you is, look, the mission is undefined. Why are U.S. troops over there? Do you feel the mission is undefined?

DARRELL ANKARLO, SON SERVED IN IRAQ: You know what? I think the mission is definitely defined, and I think the mission is going to take some time. Everybody keeps saying, well, we're killing so many people, we're losing so many people. We did not know who was winning World War I two years into it, World War II, two years into it, Vietnam War two years into it.

So what's going on is here we've got this groundswell. And that's why I have a problem with the message that's been carefully orchestrated with the PR firm who goes like this every time you come back on from the break. This is very orchestrated.

COOPER: It happens at every demonstration.

ANKARLO: Which is absolutely amazing to me, because what they're trying to do is, this is a campaign for representatives and senators and the upcoming elections. They're trying to take over with just one voice who turns into many to say this is a bad war, it's an unholy war, it's an incorrect war. I'm saying to the president, stay the course. You know what the mission is. I've got a son who's invested in it. And I'm going to stand by him.

COOPER: Do you -- you have lost a son. You have made a terrible sacrifice. Do you feel for Cindy Sheehan?

QUALLS: Yes, sir, I certainly do. As a single parent, I've raised two boys practically by myself. So I've had to play the dad, the father, and the mom role as well. And I know it hurt me deeply and it still does. And I've only got one son left. And he, too, wants to serve.

But if it takes the sacrifice of my whole family, to help protect the welfare of this country, to protect our way of life, and our freedoms of speech, then I guess as an American, I have to make that sacrifice. That's our duty for our country, and for this world.

COOPER: If your son who's 16 now -- is that right?

QUALLS: Yes, sir.

COOPER: You said he's a big guy, plays football. If he wanted to serve, you would want him to?

QUALLS: Yes, sir. I won't stop him. That's his freedom of choice. Cindy's son did the same thing. He put his best foot forward. My oldest son put his best foot forward. I did 28 years.

COOPER: Do you feel like you know what the mission is? Do you feel it's a good and noble mission?

QUALLS: Yes, sir. Our mission is to see to the health and the welfare and the security of our country.

COOPER: And you feel we're doing that in Iraq?

QUALLS: Yes, sir. By eliminating the terrorists, that will ensure the security of our country. We'll be a safer nation. We have to take that course.

COOPER: What do you think people don't know about protesters here about what's happening here?

ANKARLO: You know, Cindy came to Dallas back in March, and she was a part of the program called Eyes Wide Open. And they had booths out there that, by the way, were loaned to them, and shoes out there that were given to them. And they said, these are the boots of the dead. These are the shoes of the 100,000 civilians that we have killed.

How do you support your troops, yet call them murderers? And that's what she's doing. And that's my problem with this. How do you say, I'm here for you troops, I'm with you, I'm behind you. Oh, by the way, you're a murderer. That's what happened in Vietnam, Anderson.

In Vietnam we started aiming at the presidents and then we started going after the troops. It's not going to happen again. We had too many people spat upon too many people cursed at. It's not going to happen again. My son, whom I spoke with on Saturday, I said, do you have a message for Cindy Sheehan? And he's in the Marines -- oh-rah (ph).

And he said, here's the deal. You tell her that all of the brothers in Iraq and all of us stationed back here at home are tired of her undercutting the military expeditions here. She's getting people killed. That's from the Marines. That's not me politicizing something, that's a marine speaking his heart.

COOPER: Darrell, we're going to leave it there. Thank you for being here. Good luck to your son going over. And Gary, again, thank you for coming. I'm so sorry for your loss.

QUALLS: Thank you, sir. God bless America, and God bless George W. Bush.

COOPER: Many different opinions here in Crawford, Texas. Next on this special edition from Crawford, will President Bush possibly change his mind and meet Cindy Sheehan face to face once again? We'll here from a White House communications director ahead, and we're covering all the angles.

We'll also talk with Democratic strategist Joe Trippi to hear how he responds to critics who say that Sheehan is using sympathy for her son to push an agenda. All angles represented. We'll be right back.

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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:12 PM
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35. I had no idea that one dickhead was a RW radio personality
Shouldn't CNN have been compelled to disclose that?

I naturally assumed he was a freeper of some degree and standing, but the fact that he is actually a paid RW bullshit artist should have been openly disclosed.

I told my husband while watching that segment when that particular moran was speaking -- that there is no way I should set foot at a protest because of my hot temper.

I don't think I could control myself around some clown like him
(I might actually HURT the cause which is what they want!)
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:22 PM
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39. Isn't he the one who organized the so-called counterprotest?
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 12:23 PM by Generic Other
On Saturday? When they promised free food? And 25 freepers showed up?

Moran.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:25 PM
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40. the one and only
:hi:
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 03:14 PM
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42. CNN sure has changed since I last lived in the US
15 years ago. Now one must research their ringers before passing judgment.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 03:22 PM
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43. "She's getting people killed"
That's the part of the interview that really made my jaw drop. GRRRR.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:54 AM
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6. I looks like the so-called "new CNN"
which was moving toward a more objective direction was pure fabrication


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:55 AM
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8. You're a virgin?
:evilgrin:

Point taken. They even sought out opposition to Cindy that didn't get off their butts to go to Crawford -- "designated' talking heads for the Fascist's Mighty Wurlitzer. When the left protests this regime, getting out and gathering by the hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands, the media just can't seem to be bothered to give them air time. But they seem more than willing to go to the folks just wallowing in their hog sty's and mouthing the latest approved talking points.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:57 AM
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9. and did you get the asshole who just returned from Iraq?
all he did was repeat the standard GOP talking points: "Cindy is being used by leftist groups, Move-On, Code Pink, blah, blah, blah"
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:12 AM
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11. It was horrible. Cooper treated his right-wingers far more respectfully
HE seemed to put FAR more importance on their comments, and gave them far more camera time than would have been "fair." He kept repeating how completely unbiased he is. Sure!

Funny hearing that guy naming his list of groups "using" Cindy. You would have thought he was naming groups like the Weathermen, or that deadly group of baby-crawling, doctor-killing, clinic-bombing anti-abortionists, or the Minutemen!

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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:00 AM
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10. The lady did protest too much also...
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 10:01 AM by Flubadubya
Coopy just kept going on and on about how "We (CNN) don't take sides in these issues", and proceeded to do just that at every turn. It's sad that he has turned out to be such a weasel. Just when we had finally gotten rid of the little Billy Hemmer(hoid)! Looks like someone is following in his footsteps. :puke:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:17 AM
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12. It was disgusting. Here is an e-mail Walt Starr sent him.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:58 AM
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25. great email...I'll be sending as message as well.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:25 AM
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13. Here is the e-mail that I sent him after last night's smear job:
Your show tonight from Camp Casey was anything but fair & balanced. It was a smear job that smelled as though it was written by Rove.

In all of the mentioning of "left-wing" groups that are there with Cindy, you never mentioned that Cindy is a co-founder of the group Gold Star Families For Peace. There are others military families that are standing with Ms Sheehan, but you would not know that from your piece. Also, Veterans for Peace is also represented in Camp Casey. Why no mention of these groups? Instead you regurgitated every rw attack point.

Fair & balanced would have mentioned some truths about these "bush supporters" that have yet to be mentioned in the MSM.

Point: Last week-end the so-called "bush supporters" came in on a chartered bus (paid for by whom?) They chanted at Ms Sheehan "we don't care" for most of the half of an hour that they were there. That is right. They were only there long enough for a photo-op of them waving flags for AP. While waiting for the cameras to get in place they engaged in taunting a grieving mother and other grieving families. After the photo-op they all climbed on the bus and left...all in under an hour. Why hasn't CNN told that truth?

Point: Larry Northern, the *man* who vandalized a memorial to the fallen and desecrated many US flags. I cannot even begin to imagine if that had been someone on the left doing the same at one of those anti-woman's rights rallies. You and others would have microphones in every Democrats face demanding to know if that act represented the Democratic Party. You know full well I am speaking the truth. Why has no one asked bush to denounce these illegal and violent acts? Why?

There is so much more I could write, but why waste my time. I mourn for what is happening to our Country. I mourn the death of a free press. I sit in tears as I write this, not that it means a damn thing to you.

From,
A citizen who has served in uniform, one of many in a family of vets,
XXXXXXXXXXX


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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:27 AM
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15. that's a fantastic email
I hope to draw strength and knowlege from it, in writing to this asshole.

thanks.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:55 AM
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24. Thank you
The media has been giving a lot of air time to military bush*bots making it seem as though Cindy's is the sole military family member that represents the anger about this illegal war. They are no longer mentioning GSFfP, and I don't think that is an accident. When was the last time that you heard Veterans for Peace mentioned in the MSM?

You know, the media was there for that hideous display by the "we don't care" crowd. They know that it was just a PR stunt, but they are not telling the truth about it. They do, however, make sure they mention that Cindy has a PR person with her now. The media is lying every time they fail to tell the truth.

Hold their feet to the fire. Do the actions of the two Larrys represent the republican party? Why hasn't bush been asked to denounce these violent acts? Does bush condone violence against a grieving mother? Does the republican party condone US flag desecration?

We have our new meme, and we should blast the media with it.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:30 AM
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16. Excellent, excellent letter...
I can't imagine anyone could have said this better. Thank you so much for doing this!! :hug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:33 AM
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17. GREAT e-mail
Very well done
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MalibuChloe Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:02 AM
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27. Great letter
Glad you sent that. I've heard mixed things about Cooper. It seems he does learn right. Sad. :-(
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:27 AM
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14. His interview Monday with Cindy was biased and one-sided too.
Normally I like watching him, but he's been over the line in how he's treated Cindy Sheehan.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:38 AM
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20. I am so tempted to call him out.... he used to do X at raves and try to
hook up.

I'm thinking of trying to find some of my old rave scene friends and see if we can't tear him down a peg or two.

You try and assassinate the character of this woman and we'll do a hatchet job on you. I am so pissed at him... I wrote him a nice and supportive letter a few days back when he didn't run the original piece on Cindy. Never again..
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:34 AM
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18. This is the email I sent him last night
Until tonight, I had been a regular nightly viewer of Anderson Cooper 360. The bogus nonsense that you tried to pass of as "balanced" whereby you interviewed so many pro-Bush supporters to counter a single grieving woman has me so angry that I will never watch your show again.

Prior to this evening, my only television news viewing had dwindled down to Anderson Cooper 360 and Countdown with Keith Olberman. All that's left is Keith Olberman in the way of what's called "news" these days.

It's pretty sad, but an actual fact. The only truly reliable news source on cable television today is really on Comedy Central. You have proven that statement this evening.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:39 AM
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21. This says it all
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 10:40 AM by Armstead
From a transcript to the introduction of that show.

I saw a few minutes of it, but then I had better things to do -- like going to a candlelight vigil.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/17/acd.01.html

"It started out as a grieving mom on a lawn chair demanding to see the president. Now, Cindy Sheehan's speaking for the nation's anti-war movement. Tonight, we're live from Crawford, Texas, with Cindy Sheehan.

She lost her son to war. But so have thousands of other parents across the country who are still standing by the president. Tonight, a 360 look at how other military parents are mourning their fallen children...."

STUPID ASSHOLE!!! "Thousands" of otehr parents have not died in this war. It's like just shy of 2000 deaths. And how many of those do you KNOW are "still standing by the president.

My theory is that CNN stands for tyhe Chickenshit News Network. They areso afraid of looking "liberal" that they are going to the other extrem,e in an effort to be "fair and balanced."

All sides should be covered, including the pro-war parents. But in this case CINDY SHEEHAN and the movement she has ignited is the story. CNN doesn't have to be so "balanced" that they miss the whole point of the story by saying there is some equivalence. They are apples and oranges.




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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:41 AM
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22. Conservative News Network is complete bullshit
It has been several years since I watched the propoganda network.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:41 AM
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23. On Randi's show yesterday, she said he is Gloria Vanderbilt's son--
if so, and that is his background, how surprised can we be that as he gets older, he gets conservative. Randi was talking to Cindy when she said this, btw.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:00 AM
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26. A gift from Swamp Rat
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:15 AM
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28. I didn't see the show, but if
Cooper bothered to go all the way to Crawford with a CNN crew, why the hell didn't he devote a significant portion of the show to a lengthy sit-down interview with Cindy? (Don't answer. That's a rhetorical question.)

The slime machine is now in full gear, and, as always, the corporate whores, Cooper included, are ignoring the real story. Who was Casey Sheehan? How did he come to enlist? How did he die? What motivates Cindy Sheehan? What does she know that, apparently, other Gold Star Families don't?

Dangerous territory. Wouldn't want to go there and rip a huge, gaping irreparable hole in the web of lies and deceit spun by the Bush Crime Family and their willing propaganda machine.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:35 AM
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31. I saw the show and thought he gave a little extra time to the
Pro War/Bush people,but what struck me is what an opportunity Trippe (sp) missed in explaining the request for a second meeting request from Cindi. This is constantly coming up whenever a Democrat is interviewed. Why do we not have an articulate answer for this question? Why can't we say something like, Pres. Bush's first meeting with Cindi seemed mechanical and very impersonal- he didn't even know her name, referring to her as Mom- and never actually referred to her son Casey. Mrs. Sheehan is looking for reassurance about this war and compassion from Pres. Bush that were missing from their first meeting. Perhaps, she wants to look him in the eyes and see his pain and anguish over the true cost of this war.
IMO, our responses to the 2nd meeting question have been lacking in relaying a true understanding of Cindi's stance and devoid of real emotion that could make her request more reasonable.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:11 PM
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33. I like Joe Trippi.. but he is a Media Dud.
Sorry, but the man does about as well before the camera as I would, and that ain't good. He never has done well with media PR. For one, I don't know why the Dems ever put him out there, and two, I certainly understand why the RW media just love to have him represent our side. Sad.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:18 PM
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38. Agree! I like him too. He isn't a PR dream though! n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:12 PM
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34. We need to start a god damned Nazi of the day thing on the ...
front page!
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:17 PM
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37. Yep...and I emailed him about it, too....
Basically told him that you can't just "cover all sides" and claim to be balanced and unbiased. Because based on the polls, probably 60-70% of the calls were in support of Cindy. So if the broadcast was truly unbiased, the comments played on the air would have represented this percentage. But they made absolutely sure to air a negative comment for each positive comment. Not only that, the very last comment played was totally negative towards Cindy. Note to CNN and Anderson Cooper: That was NOT unbiased reporting. Jeez!

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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:25 PM
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41. Posted to All Cindy thread! Thanks Catwoman
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 03:25 PM
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44. Anderson is a confusing media whore...
...one moment, he has Michael Stipe on calling the Chimp a thief and a murderer, the next, he's claiming the Iraqi elections are proof that the Bush Doctrine is working.

:crazy:Anderson:crazy:
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