Waco article on Northern: Nam Purple Heart, Baptist, Rep candidate, golfer

[DeepModem Mom]

Army veteran arrested in destruction of soldier memorial
By Tommy Witherspoon Tribune-Herald staff writer
Wednesday, August 17, 2005

If a 59-year-old Speegleville man had not been arrested Monday night shortly after he reportedly destroyed a roadside memorial to fallen U.S. soldiers near President Bush's ranch, McLennan County Sheriff Larry Lynch would have known where to find him later this week – in Lynch's Sunday School class.

Sheriff's office investigators said Larry Chad Northern drove his pickup truck over hundreds of small wooden crosses bearing the names of soldiers who died in the war that peace activists had placed along Prairie Chapel Road.

Northern, an Army veteran who reportedly earned a Purple Heart in Vietnam, is free on $3,000 bail after his arrest Monday night on state jail felony charges of criminal mischief over $1,500 but less than $20,000.

Lynch confirmed Tuesday that he and Northern both attend Columbus Avenue Baptist Church....

***

Precinct 4 McLennan County Commissioner Ray Meadows is also friends with Northern, a retired real estate company owner. Meadows defeated Northern in the 1986 Republican primary to win his first term in office, but said Northern recently played at a golf tournament held to raise money for Meadows' latest re-election bid....

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/17/20050817waccrossmemorial.html

[Clark2008]

1. Dang. Are ALL freepers hypocrites?

:shrug:

[bribri16]

19. Do the Freeps think he is a former Viet Nam vet like Kerry who they

claim disrespected the military?

[MrBenchley]

2. Was it a Purple Heart or a Bandaid with a Purple Heart?

Was he wounded ENOUGH to meet the rigorous demands of the GOP? After all, Max Cleland losing an arm and both legs was not a serious enough wound to earn any respect from the Republicans...

[oneighty]

3. Is he really a Vet

There are so many liars-wannabe heroes.

180

[MrBenchley]

5. Even if he is, let's lie about it!

I'm sure the Democrats will soon start running ads claiming he's lying about his service rec...no wait, that's Republicans who do that...

[Hubert Flottz]

11. I heard the guy was Karl Rove's distant relative...

but I haven't got the link yet.

[DeepModem Mom]

36. You're kidding, Hubert - or serious? nt

[Hubert Flottz]

38. I'm Always serious.

Of course you can't really count on anything now days, still, you also can't rule anything out either. I'm watching for more on the story to develop. I'll tell you what though, the story kind of makes sense in a way, the more we're finding out about the guy.

[KansDem]

6. My thought exactly...

The GOP has indicated in its statements and actions how purple hearts are meaningless.

I'm soooo glad we have people like her to warn us about these unworthy purple-heart recipients!

...Ewwwwwwwwwwwww!

[FreedomAngel82]

26. That still pisses me off so freakin bad

:mad:

[MrBenchley]

32. Glad you posted that picture...

That still burns ME up...

[MADem]

43. I noted the word "reportedly" IRT his decoration

...which means the lazyass reporter did not check to see if the guy really had one or not.

[LibDemAlways]

4. Thank you for this.

This is one story that won't make it onto the evening "news."

[DeepModem Mom]

7. I happened on it while searching for more info on today's arrest...

in Crawford:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4387634


You're welcome, LDA!

[DeepModem Mom]

10. To update -- I found a link for the Crawford arrest --

California Man Arrested Near Bush Ranch After Protestes Threatened
http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/1778137.html

[deminks]

8. This woman (Cindy)gave her son.

I can't imaging the amount of poison koolaid this man has ingested to think Cindy has no right to honor the fallen. So full of hate that he cannot see. I feel sorry for his family, too. I hope they understand the shame, but somehow I think they will only know hate. I am just glad they caught him.

[sattahipdeep]

9. This Meadows guy is a real piece of work

He is an Army veteran and a war hero as far as I am concerned :puke:
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/17/20050817waccrossmemorial.html

[tsuki]

29. Why are Republicans War Heroes and Democrats not?

[sattahipdeep]

12. Did you see this....A 28-year Army veteran (how pathetic)

Gary Qualls, 48, of Temple, took offense to his son's name being included in a makeshift roadside
memorial for fallen soldiers. He drove up to the memorial on the side of Prairie Chapel Road Wednesday
and ripped from the ground the crucifix that bore his son's name.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/18/20050818waccandle_vigil.html

[MildyRules]

14. Maybe he mourns

the loss of his son privately and does not wish for another to use his son's name in a cause in which he does not believe. I don't agree with him, but I can't fault him.

[johnaries]

20. WTF? Then how come Qualls hugged Cindy and told her he loved her?

Last Saturday - Do these pictures lie?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4343893

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4344582

Yes, he was a counter protestor at first, but instead of "ripping up" his son's cross he put flowers around it. Look at this post and scroll down to the picture labeled "close up of two crosses"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3849351&mesg_id=3849351

[DeepModem Mom]

21. Good catch -- somebody got to him? Or he was pressured by peers? nt

[johnaries]

22. I don't know, but I think we should send these pictures to the Waco Trib.

Should we start a DU call to action?

[DeepModem Mom]

25. This should be brought to the attention of the Trib....

There's a story here. Don't know about a call to action yet -- I'm a little sensitive that he's a grieving father, as Cindy is a grieving mother, and inclined to see what emerges if he's asked about this.

On edit: See post 24.

[sattahipdeep]

30. Isn't it odd that such an important thread has only 4 votes.

We are getting information from the same source only it's different information?

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/17/20050817waccrossmemorial.html

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/18/20050818waccandle_vigil.html

[DeepModem Mom]

34. Do you think you should post a separate thread on this new issue...

involving Qualls?

[johnaries]

24. I wrote them a letter, with links. Here's the tiny url links I used

http://tinyurl.com/a5yqx
http://tinyurl.com/c2eyd
http://tinyurl.com/7jnfa

In case someone else wants to write and use the same links.

[DeepModem Mom]

28. Thanks, johnaries. nt

[BrklynLiberal]

39. Or the story is just an outright lie.

[sattahipdeep]

23. I have no idea what is going on ... That is why

I posted the link ... What is really going on?

Anti-war activists hold candlelight vigil in Crawford

By Thaddeus DeJesus Tribune-Herald staff writer

Thursday, August 18, 2005

Waco Tribune-Herald

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/18/20050818waccandle_vigil.html

[johnaries]

27. Thank you for posting it! I wrote the editor and sent him links to these

threads so he can see them for himself.
I'm very curious whether they will do any follow-up.

[sattahipdeep]

31. Have a good day johnaries And Thank You too. n/t

[Snotcicles]

13. BTK was a big old good old boy too wasn't he? yeah on the surface. n/t

[Generic Other]

15. Thanks MM. Posted link here

8/18 ALL DU Cindy threads DAY 12
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4387685#4387755

[The Magistrate]

16. What A Surprise, Ma'am

That this wretch is active in the local Republican Party....

[sattahipdeep]

17. Commissioner Ray Meadows said, buy the property

"There's a lot of property for sale there;
buy a piece of property," he said when asked about a solution.

Larry Northern Larry Lynch (Sheriff) Larry Mattlage

SHOTS FIRED!

Afterward...

The McLennan County Sheriff Larry Lynch came outside Mr. Mattlage’s gate and spoke to the
reporters

Reporters: How long can these people camp out?

Sheriff: There’s no rule on that. There will be some issues brought
up at the Commissioners' Court next week.

http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/31-40/32news2.htm

[sattahipdeep]

18. Like I've said ... Bush is a pig and a coward....

The greatest uniter of our time ... NOT

[Ms. Clio]

33. It was always the "best people" who orchestrated & led the mass mobs

Like the one that murdered seventeen-year-old Jesse Washington in Waco in 1916.

[Cooley Hurd]

35. Wow... this article made me feel sorry for Larry...

...NOT!!!

So, this shitbag is a sunday school teacher and a purple heart recipient?

BIG FUCKING DEAL!!! The SCUMBAG INTENTIONALLY RAN OVER A MEMORIAL FOR FALLEN SOLDIERS OF THIS ILLEGAL, IMMORAL WAR! WHATEVER THE FUCK HE DID BEFORE IS NEGATED BY HIS LATEST ACT!

ROT IN JAIL, you UN-AMERICAN, FASCIST PIECE OF FECES!!!!:thumbsdown:

[sakabatou]

37. now THAT is just plain evil

[Mabus]

40. They forget to mention the guns

and the Gun club website he was hosting. It's gone now. Like all things the GOP'ers don't want you to know about, it was hidden from public view.

[BrklynLiberal]

41. Meanwhile..the "town" of Crawford did not even exist until Nov 2000.

PHONY TO THE CORE: The "Ole Family Ranch" in Crawford is a Set Completed the Same Day the Election was Stolen
By Cheryl Seal

Have you seen all those article and pictures of Bush "at home on the ranch" in Crawford - the ones that imply that he is "just an ole ranch hand" more comfortable on the family homestead than in the "Big City," be it Austin or D.C.? Well, if you bought this image, you've been royally snuckered. The Bush family homestead in Crawford is nothing more than an elaborate set. The house, built in 2000, was designed to be ready for Bush to step into - like a set awaiting an actor - during the 2000 presidential election. Not only was the "ranch" created in 2000 - so, essentially, was the "town" of Crawford! Before then only about 400 people lived in the area. The Crawford Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture were formed shortly after the ranch was finished.

The 1,600 acres on which the "ranch" sits was purchased in 1999 for an undisclosed price, but it was a helluva lot less than the current real estate agents' appraisal of $1.2 million. Yep, worth $1.2 million, but G.W. has a sweet deal at the tax appraiser's office, where the property is valued at about $988,000. Oh, and that "homey ole ranch house?" It's actually a 10,000-square-foot single level mansion/compound that won't even be 2 years old until this November! (This article was written in April, 2002)The compound features a swimming pool for daughters Jenna and Barbara, who apparently loudly demanded it - the Bushes call it the girls' "Whining pool." Btw - we hear Bush got a sweet deal on the house construction, (the cost, of course remains undisclosed): the builders came from a religious community in El Mott, Texas. The original completion date of the house was November 7 - election day 2000. In other words, the curtain went up on the set on schedule for "show time." The very timing of this event indicates that Bush was absolutely confident that the election would be successfully engineered in his favor.
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Not only was the "ranch" created in 2000 - so, essentially, was the "town" of Crawford! Before then only about 400 people lived in the area. The Crawford Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture were formed shortly after the ranch was finished.
more...

http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=6687

[MADem]

44. Well, he did what he had to do to avoid a WACO address!!!

Don't wanna be associated with that David Koresh, now, does he???

[Joanne98]

42. Put one of those bandaids with the purple hearts on his picture!